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Old 03-20-2012, 05:49 AM   #31
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:11 AM   #32
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there is a commandment that says thou shalt not murder,
it's often mis-quoted as thall shalt not kill, which is severely incorrect,
there's all the world of difference between kill and murder.

killing in self-defense is okay.

killing someone trying to wrongfully take your only means of protection or survival, is okay. they have no right to take it, and it's obvious their reasons for taking it are insidious - see "Germany, 1939".

killing someone to feed yourself is wrong.

Misquoted? Really? Exactly where is your "correct" quote from?

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Someone had to call him out on that one.
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I guess we all have our own opinion! Unless you voice it the wrong way . Spoken from experiance
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Old 03-20-2012, 08:48 AM   #36
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Someone had to call him out on that one.
what in thee fark are you even talking about, being a doosh on purpose? nice way to get a thread locked, no thanks go read for yourself it's not my job to educate you on spirituality - God gave that responsibility to each of us for ourselves to do. hey good luck.
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The fridge in my garage is stocked with beer. I should be good.
I know where im going lol. Youd need a beer truck for doomsday lol. A measly fridge wont last long lol
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what in thee fark are you even talking about, being a doosh on purpose? nice way to get a thread locked, no thanks go read for yourself it's not my job to educate you on spirituality - God gave that responsibility to each of us for ourselves to do. hey good luck.
Exactly the response I figured on. Without a leg to stand on the only thing to do is attack.
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in kjv it says " thou shall not kill" that's not to say other people have their own meanings of kill and on in the bible there is another definition of "kill" but in the ten commandments it says kill
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Exactly the response I figured on. Without a leg to stand on the only thing to do is attack.
Boom goes the dynamite.
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Ok well getting back on topic. I am a prepper. Maybe not for dooms day per say but for any major incident. For those who say they can't afford it I don't think I can afford not to. I feel it is my job as a husband and father to provide and protect for my family. We have a stock pile of food and it is not hard to do. Every time we go grocery shipping we buy a little extra of what ever we think we need i.e. canned food, raw beans, flour, powered milk. Just a little extra every time you go to the store will add up after awhile.

There are plenty of prepper web sights that tell you easy and affordable ways to prep.

Me and my family have a plans in place for differant scenarios. Either shelter in place or bug out. We have a pre determined place at friends house. There are a group of us. We call our self the LMI (Like Minded Individuals).

For those of you that are ridding the line on wether to prep or not you really need to read Patriots by J.W. Rawles. It is like a survival guide with a plot.
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Ok well getting back on topic. I am a prepper. Maybe not for dooms day per say but for any major incident. For those who say they can't afford it I don't think I can afford not to. I feel it is my job as a husband and father to provide and protect for my family. We have a stock pile of food and it is not hard to do. Every time we go grocery shipping we buy a little extra of what ever we think we need i.e. canned food, raw beans, flour, powered milk. Just a little extra every time you go to the store will add up after awhile.

There are plenty of prepper web sights that tell you easy and affordable ways to prep.

Me and my family have a plans in place for differant scenarios. Either shelter in place or bug out. We have a pre determined place at friends house. There are a group of us. We call our self the LMI (Like Minded Individuals).

For those of you that are ridding the line on wether to prep or not you really need to read Patriots by J.W. Rawles. It is like a survival guide with a plot.
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My wife grew up in Fl with Hurricanes and I grew up in Ca with quakes. We both have the idea of preping for a major disaster. It's not hard to do, just buy a few more cheap cans of food each trip to the store and stay stalked up on things like water, batteries, and first aid items.
Right now NASA seems concerned with solar flares that could wipe out out old power grid which could take several weeks to repair. An EMP would make it hard to use an atm, or even get gas. Everything runs on electronics so to prep is to have insurance. You have insurance for you ride but you plan to never get into a wreck. Its incase sh*t.
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Exactly the response I figured on. Without a leg to stand on the only thing to do is attack.
I don't see why you don't think he has a leg to stand on?? What he is basically saying is that "kill" is a "translation" granted he used terminology quote.. KJV, NIV, you name it are all "versions". Not the original script therefore it's translated. Ever play with a language translator?? Try it, type Something in and translate from english to what ever language then back to English.. See how many times it's off.. We have all heard the phrase "it lost something in translation". Well who is to say the 10 commandments said kill or murder??? Also in biblical times many definitions were not what they are today, a good example is wine. The wine Jesus drank is nothing like what wine is today...

Back OT, I fear a climate disaster more then religious however I'm not "prepping".. I have ammo but that is because I reload and target a lot.
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:59 PM   #45
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Ok well getting back on topic. I am a prepper. Maybe not for dooms day per say but for any major incident.
very much agree, and thanks for the rest of your post too.

i think the short-term anarchy is very wise to prep for, because we have already seen that play out a zillion times, with earthquakes, floods, and riots.

just last Spring in Richmond KY there was flooding causing a neighborhood to be evacuated for a short time; during that time there was some looting, one guy caught some people and held them (i think at gunpoint, don't remember) for police to pick them up, or maybe he just got info on them and got them caught.
We've had at least one incident of rioting in Lexington KY when i lived there, maybe 10-ish yrs ago,
and Cincinatti has has several instances of it since i've lived in this area.

WATER i think is a key element here, and i am looking for a water filtration method - please post any info/ideas if you have them.


dagg - no it's you who went on some attack, it's not my job to prove anything to you nor waste my time on you. it is your job to read and study about God, -if- you believe in anything at all. if you do, this is your responsibility, i urge you to do so.

if you take one "version" of the Bible and think not a word in it could be altered by accident, then do you read Hebrew or something? yeah i didn't think so. a few things have come out in the last decade about slightly different possible meanings of words we had previously taken for granted, 3 examples:

1.) Jesus' "occupation" may have infact been that of teacher, not someone hammering nails into wood to build homes. the word "carpenter" may not be what previously stated.
2.) this is an OLD one, and several Bibles have it one way or the other, the commandment (4th or 7th, i forget) that says thou shalt not murder, it's murder here not kill. believe whatever you want, but i urge you to study - this is for your sake not mine.
3.) the number of the beast may not be 666 but instead 616.

1 and 2 i only heard of in the last decade or maybe 15yrs.

important point being: studying and learning is your job, i've done what i can to give you some things to research and that's the most i can do for you. i hope you take up the challenge.
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dagg - no it's you who went on some attack,

Show me exactly where I went on some attack? I merely asked questions. It was you who resorted to name calling. Why would I waste my time looking for your references? Being a good Christian has nothing to do with studying. I beleive that it's all about how you live your life. If it gives you comfort to use the word "murder" as opposed to "kill", then so be it. I've had many years of learning and study in my Catholic upbringing. I was born once and see no reason to be "born again."

You can discuss what may or may not have been lost in translation, but unless you can produce the original stone tablets, we willl have to agree to disagree.

Ultimately the good Lord will make the distinction for us between the words kill or murder. I'm just glad that there's at least one on the list that I won't have to answer for (so far).
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2.) this is an OLD one, and several Bibles have it one way or the other, the commandment (4th or 7th, i forget) that says thou shalt not murder, it's murder here not kill. believe whatever you want, but i urge you to study - this is for your sake not mine.
It's the 6th BTW.


Let's for arguments sake, say that the original stone tablets wording was in fact "murder". You are now applying a modern day definition to that term. Perhaps by "murder", it was indeed meant as "kill". I don't recall seeing any explanations pr footnotes that allow for manslaughter or self defense.
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killing in self-defense is okay.

killing someone trying to wrongfully take your only means of protection or survival, is okay. they have no right to take it, and it's obvious their reasons for taking it are insidious - see "Germany, 1939".

killing someone to feed yourself is wrong.

I must have missed this section during my years of study. Your bible study classes must be very interesting.
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I love talking about religion and beliefs however I think over this msg board all it's gonna do is make people mad or cause a scene.

So I think we all should leave the religion out of doomsday prepping.

Just my 2 cents
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What's that old saying about the best laid plans?
The less people know about what you have, the better.
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What's that old saying about the best laid plans?
The less people know about what you have, the better.
Exactly. Anyone remember the old Twilight Zone episode where one neighbor has a bomb shelter and a warning is sounded?
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What's that old saying about the best laid plans?
The less people know about what you have, the better.
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that's what i referred to in my first post,
save your earthly life, lose your soul,

or, the other way around.

your choice.

i'll do all i can to help others, in need;
while also i will staunchly defend against violent attempts to take things from those in need.
iow: if you ask me for water i will give it to you,
if you try to forcefully rob me of water i will respond with force.

i hope to "prep"are my soul, mind, heart, for adversity;
it's perfectly acceptable if my earthly life dies.
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What's that old saying about the best laid plans?
The less people know about what you have, the better.
That is exactly the reason why only those of us in our group know what we have an what our plan is.
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Yes ! When I started this thread I really wanted it to stay drama free ! This is agin and helpful thread for us to use as information and entertainment . Please be nice ladies and gentlemen .
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Yes ! When I started this thread I really wanted it to stay drama free ! This is agin and helpful thread for us to use as information and entertainment . Please be nice ladies and gentlemen .
I really like the potential that this thread has. I am hoping to be able to learn some other techniques and more importantly help someone else start preaping.
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help someone else start preaping.
i think you coined a new phrase: you preap what you sow
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i think you coined a new phrase: you preap what you sow
I like it!!!
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Don't tell me that's it don't let this thread die !!
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I dont want this thread to die either so let me throw in a big key on information for those that are wanting to start preeping.

If you are just getting in to preeping or have been preeping for years ther is one rule that w should all remember. The Rule of Three's.

You can only survive 3 minutes without air.

In extreme conditions you can only survive 3 hours without proper shelter.

3 days without water.

And 3 days without food.

Of you have those things covered you have successfully prepped for 90% of any situation.

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