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Old 03-30-2012, 12:56 PM   #61
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Those are fair guidelines, but you can survive a lot longer than 3 days without food.

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Old 03-30-2012, 01:13 PM   #62
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Those are fair guidelines, but you can survive a lot longer than 3 days without food.
You are correct it was a typo. My fault. It should be three weeks. Thank you for catching my mistake.

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Now, that being said, sometimes I have trouble making it between lunch and dinner.
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Now, that being said, sometimes I have trouble making it between lunch and dinner.
Me too.
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I will recomend some books:

One second after
How to survive the end of the world as we know it.
Empire of the summer moon

just to get you in the mood
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I will recomend some books:

One second after
How to survive the end of the world as we know it.
Empire of the summer moon

just to get you in the mood
I have read the first too. They are great books. I couldn't not put down One Second After.
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Not sure if I can prep effectivley for doomsday right now but i am prepping for some sort of local event as a stepping stone. In Mn we dont have to worry about floods or earth quakes just tornadoes. so what i would like to do is to set up enough stuff in our designated room so that i wouldnt have to sift through the house if it was totaled. food water and equipment.
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Not sure if I can prep effectivley for doomsday right now but i am prepping for some sort of local event as a stepping stone. In Mn we dont have to worry about floods or earth quakes just tornadoes. so what i would like to do is to set up enough stuff in our designated room so that i wouldnt have to sift through the house if it was totaled. food water and equipment.
You have to start somewhere, and that is a good place to start.
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Not sure if I can prep effectivley for doomsday right now but i am prepping for some sort of local event as a stepping stone. In Mn we dont have to worry about floods or earth quakes just tornadoes. so what i would like to do is to set up enough stuff in our designated room so that i wouldnt have to sift through the house if it was totaled. food water and equipment.
You should do a little storm shelter type thing. When I lived in IL my neighbor had one. Dug a hole and built an underground shed. Room for family and supplies. Better the basement with house above to fall in he said..
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Move to northern Alberta. We don't get any natural disasters. No earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, etc. Once there was a tornado, but that's very rare.

One thing too, is all the people in the south have warm clothing! If you get forced north in the winter, you want a parka, toque, mitts and snow pants!!!! And lotsa other things. If I have to, I could go to a warm climate (south) quite easily. For people who have never experienced -45C you won't know what to do.

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You should do a little storm shelter type thing. When I lived in IL my neighbor had one. Dug a hole and built an underground shed. Room for family and supplies. Better the basement with house above to fall in he said..
No room with my septic system and stuff. i was thinking about hardening a small room that i have in the basement. nothing extreme/ metal door screw some cabinets to the walls.

I put in a wood stove a few years back (After "O" was voted in.) realizing that energy prices were going necassarily sky rocket. So i am covered for heat. i have 2 seasons worth of wood cut as of now.
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Sound like you have a good plan and a good start.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:37 PM   #73
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I do it.. but I'm nowhere near as nuts as those guys on TV. I have a decent bug out plan, some ammunition and weapons, paths out of the major cities, a place to go, etc.etc. but I'm not living my life by it.
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No room with my septic system and stuff. i was thinking about hardening a small room that i have in the basement. nothing extreme/ metal door screw some cabinets to the walls.
not a bad idea at all... Beef up the ceiling too..
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hmmm maybe 1/4 inch sheet metal behind the dry wall or dura-rock...it has a window will so i was thinking i would make a plate that i could throw up there in case of a bad storm.
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DOOMSDAY has all ready come,,, your all too late. Obama elected 44th president - politics - Decision '08 - msnbc.com
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DOOMSDAY has all ready come,,, your all too late. Obama elected 44th president - politics - Decision '08 - msnbc.com
Lol, no comment other then he shut the doors of my shop for over a year when got elected due to his no drill policy...
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Well my idea of prepping is a little different too. Being a Marine SGT I think a little differently on survival . I do have an assortment of tactical defense skills and the weapons to back it up . My idea is not to go out and buy a bug out spot and spen tons of money on ready supplies of food and water . I really don't see the world ending per say ! That's a bunch of dramatized religious BS . This is btw coming from a head straight southern baptist. I do however feel like the civil part of how we live our daily lives will (someday) change drastically ..and I will be taking my family and heading for the hill country and going back to basics . You can build shelter and make it just fine on the land if you have the proper skills . Hopefully to survive long enough to help with the restructure of the good ole USA ! But hey I do live in Texas and if the crap really hits the fan maybey we can all hold our ground and self sustain !
I'm with you. I'm in Texas and also have the same Marine skill set. I don't own but have 2000 acres in SW Texas to Bugout to if I so desire. Plenty of wild game and aux power to keep us sustained.
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Y'all are really gonna freak out when

Obama gets re-elected this November.

Just keep in mind, if the Repubs had their way, there would be no Jeep, no Chrysler, no GM. And Osama Bin Laden would still be alive...gotta have a boogeyman. Oh, that's right Obama IS their boogeyman.

I don't prep, don't see much sense in it, especially after watching the TV show, the folks on the show are idiots. One guy built his escape 400 miles from his home, then was shocked when someone stole his generator. Another guy shot his own damn finger off. Why would you watch a show like that to learn anything?

I sure would like to know why my comments keep getting deleted. I'm not insulting anyone, just really disagreeing with them.

I await this post being deleted too......
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Obama gets re-elected this November.

Just keep in mind, if the Repubs had their way, there would be no Jeep, no Chrysler, no GM. And Osama Bin Laden would still be alive...gotta have a boogeyman. Oh, that's right Obama IS their boogeyman.

I don't prep, don't see much sense in it, especially after watching the TV show, the folks on the show are idiots. One guy built his escape 400 miles from his home, then was shocked when someone stole his generator. Another guy shot his own damn finger off. Why would you watch a show like that to learn anything?

I sure would like to know why my comments keep getting deleted. I'm not insulting anyone, just really disagreeing with them.

I await this post being deleted too......
Jesus...politics :-(

My jeep is my doomsday prep. Hopefully the gas pumps still work or I'm tsol.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I perp more so for natural disasters not for the end of the world. If the shit ever hits the fan I have a bug out plan in place. Me and my family will be living off of the land. Do I believe in dooms day? Yes I do. Do I believe it will be in our life time? Who knows? But the dooms day I believe in there is only one way to prep for and I'm not going to get into religion on here. Like I stated in one of my previous posts, I fell that it is my job as a father and a husband to provide and protect my family in any situation. And prepping ensures that I do so.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I perp more so for natural disasters not for the end of the world. If the shit ever hits the fan I have a bug out plan in place. Me and my family will be living off of the land. Do I believe in dooms day? Yes I do. Do I believe it will be in our life time? Who knows? But the dooms day I believe in there is only one way to prep for and I'm not going to get into religion on here. Like I stated in one of my previous posts, I fell that it is my job as a father and a husband to provide and protect my family in any situation. And prepping ensures that I do so.
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Okay, a bit of a moral/ethical question for you guys...

Would you be willing to use force to take what you need/want?

I know that sounds like a simple yes and I'm would imagine most people would. However, how is that going to reflect upon the rebuilding of society. People will survive and early on in the rebuilding process I'd think people's transgressions will not be forgotten as order comes from chaos.

Also, do you think a doomsday scenario would turn into an "every man for himself" situation, or do you believe in the general good of man and people will band together? I'm in the belief there would be roving gangs that would take by force what they are not given. I believe people though, out of the necessity to survive, will depend upon each other and small communities or groups will come together. I don't think that would take that long. Humans flock to humans. In that situation, having a certain skill set could make you a valuable commodity, and essentially make your life, and that of your family, somewhat "easier."

Something else to think about...so many people are headed out of town, what do you think is going to come off the wild life a larger number of people will be hunting? You will have a scenario of more people looking for a decreasing number of resources. I think this would be the initial situation, but as people start to die off (for any number of reasons), the wildlife will replenish and there will be more of a balance and availability of food. I think in the beginning, once the initial panic has passed, people will get out of town and there will be a fight for food. After that passes, the situation would probably stabilize. This is the reason I think it's important to have a group to travel/live with and have a valuable skill set.

Just a few thoughts. I could go on and on, but I've got to get ready for school to start in a bit.
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Just a quick thought ....The myan calendar didnt include leap years which means the end was alreay supposed to have happend a few years ago. WIN!!
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Okay, a bit of a moral/ethical question for you guys...

Would you be willing to use force to take what you need/want?

I know that sounds like a simple yes and I'm would imagine most people would. However, how is that going to reflect upon the rebuilding of society. People will survive and early on in the rebuilding process I'd think people's transgressions will not be forgotten as order comes from chaos.

Also, do you think a doomsday scenario would turn into an "every man for himself" situation, or do you believe in the general good of man and people will band together? I'm in the belief there would be roving gangs that would take by force what they are not given. I believe people though, out of the necessity to survive, will depend upon each other and small communities or groups will come together. I don't think that would take that long. Humans flock to humans. In that situation, having a certain skill set could make you a valuable commodity, and essentially make your life, and that of your family, somewhat "easier."

Something else to think about...so many people are headed out of town, what do you think is going to come off the wild life a larger number of people will be hunting? You will have a scenario of more people looking for a decreasing number of resources. I think this would be the initial situation, but as people start to die off (for any number of reasons), the wildlife will replenish and there will be more of a balance and availability of food. I think in the beginning, once the initial panic has passed, people will get out of town and there will be a fight for food. After that passes, the situation would probably stabilize. This is the reason I think it's important to have a group to travel/live with and have a valuable skill set.

Just a few thoughts. I could go on and on, but I've got to get ready for school to start in a bit.

Well thats a tough thing to have to answer but here is mine . The first thing i think of really is yes i think things will become extremly unstable when TSHTF . A prime example ... actually two..Katrina hit new orleans, the way people were acting inside that staduim was absolutley lawless even with some law enforcment around children getting raped killed and people beating and stealing, it was chaos. Then a more recent thing , Ky wins a championship basketball tourney ..... and they freaking riot in the streets! it happens everywhere . People get out of control and thats just the way it is.Would I use force to get what i need , yes ! I too live by an ethos taught to me by the marines ..acomplish the mission ,by any means nessesary. My mission is to stay alive and make damn sure my family does too. Its gonna take one real lucky or more skilled opponent to take me out I garuntee that.Do I hope that it comes down to that , hell no , but you gotta look in the mirror and ask yourself how far are YOU willing to go to survive . I took an oath to defend this country from all enemies forgien and domestic, and i will do that untill my last breath . That is what makes this country the Greatest in the entire world . Freedom isnt free ladies and gentlemen , Ive fought next to some of the toughest warriors the free world has never know, some ive been home with and met their familes and have become brothers with and others ive laid to rest . Awareness is the key along with communication . We cannot do anything alone but in numbers we will prevail.
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Okay, a bit of a moral/ethical question for you guys...

Would you be willing to use force to take what you need/want?

I know that sounds like a simple yes and I'm would imagine most people would. However, how is that going to reflect upon the rebuilding of society. People will survive and early on in the rebuilding process I'd think people's transgressions will not be forgotten as order comes from chaos.

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Something else to think about...so many people are headed out of town, what do you think is going to come off the wild life a larger number of people will be hunting? You will have a scenario of more people looking for a decreasing number of resources. I think this would be the initial situation, but as people start to die off (for any number of reasons), the wildlife will replenish and there will be more of a balance and availability of food. I think in the beginning, once the initial panic has passed, people will get out of town and there will be a fight for food. After that passes, the situation would probably stabilize. This is the reason I think it's important to have a group to travel/live with and have a valuable skill set.

Just a few thoughts. I could go on and on, but I've got to get ready for school to start in a bit.
Taking my force would be my last stitch effort unless it's life of death.

And I believe that there will be both. I think there will be groups of people help each other and running in "packs" and also gangs out to loot and destroy. And you will also see loaners.

The wild life situation I believe will take a drop in population. There a millions of people who don't prep and will start hunting. They have no idea how to preserve meat so they will eat on the animal for a day or two at the most and go out to kill more leaving lots of waste.

Skill sets are very important. For more info on skill sets go to ITS Tactical's website. They are very informative.
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When the Mayans created their calender, leap year wasn't created yet, they used 28 days in February, every year. Adding up all the extra days since leap year was created, and going by the Mayan calender, the world should've ended roughly 9 months ago.

I believe our government will fall, eventually, but who knows when?

I have Jesus, Jeep, Glock, and Winchester on my side, So I feel that I am prepared.

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When the Mayans created their calender, leap year wasn't created yet, they used 28 days in February, every year. Adding up all the extra days since leap year was created, and going by the Mayan calender, the world should've ended roughly 9 months ago.

I believe our government will fall, eventually, but who knows when?

I have Jesus, Jeep, Glock, and Winchester on my side, So I feel that I am prepared.

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I never thought the end of the Mayan calendar was suppose to be the end of the world. I believe that is just as far as they made it.
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Most people dont believe that it was supposed to be the end of the world. But theres alot of folks that do.

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