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Old 03-04-2010, 03:05 PM   #1
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Are you in Favor of National Health Care?

So since that is pretty much all I've been hearing about on the news lately, I thought I'd post a poll and see what you all think about Obama-care. Maybe I'll find a way to forward the results to those who are going to be voting on it.

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--subquestion: If no!!, are you in favor of medicare, medicaid, and social security?
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Hell no, I'd like to stay employed.

To answer the subquestion above. No. - see reason above.

Medicare cut their reimbursement on the TWO biggest killers...Oncology and Cardiology....makes tons of sense. Mayo clinic no longer accepts Medicare due to this.
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NO and I currently don't have healthcare, nor can I afford it, but that is my situation and not the responsibility of the American Government or the Citizens
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--subquestion: If no!!, are you in favor of medicare, medicaid, and social security?
No. And I am also not a fan of the Federal Reserve or the Federal Income Tax. Government needs to reign themselves in and do what they were constitutionally enabled to and nothing more. If you were taxed less, ie. no SS tax, Medicare tax, Income tax, property taxes going to failing public school systems, etc, with some discipline you should be able to provide for your own retirement/medical plan if your employer doesn't have one. Reliance on the government to provide for us with money we are forced to voluntarily give them is not what our Constitutional Republic should be about. IMO
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No. And if anyone wants to compare national health care to social security, medicaid etc, then you are making a stellar argument AGAINST national health care. Those programs, while probably well meaning and perhaps even appropriate for the times they came into being are the best example of why NOT let the government run health care.

I'd rather have a broken, private health care system than a broken and BROKE government run health care system.
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No. And if anyone wants to compare national health care to social security, medicaid etc, then you are making a stellar argument AGAINST national health care. Those programs, while probably well meaning and perhaps even appropriate for the times they came into being are the best example of why NOT let the government run health care.

I'd rather have a broken, private health care system than a broken and BROKE government run health care system.
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I am for it 100% in theory. A single payer system would be an amazing thing to have. Our governments main duty is to provide us with protection, have it be by way of our military, or by way of our doctors.

I dont however see if congress passes their current bill, much good coming out of it under our current economic circumstances. I think had it passed when clinton tried to, it would have been more successfull. I dont think right now is the proper time for it, but I do think eventually it has to happen, and I think eventually it will happen.
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Not as it's being pushed through now.
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No! Socialized medicine has resulted in poorer medical care in all countries who adopted it. I was at a police products show up near the Canadian border years ago & ended up having lunch with a tablefull of Canadians. Did I hear an earful about the wait to get anything done that is not an emergency. Several said they ended up having to go across the border into the U.S. & paying for their own surgeries. All agreed in saying that few Canadians like their socialized medicine & that it's a huge source of national complaints. Socialized medicine is strictly for the birds & Cubans.
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...Socialized medicine is strictly for the birds & Cubans.
right. It's for Socialists. Last time I checked we weren't socialist. yet
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im lucky and covered by my dads work till im 24, but even then i would not want gov. controlled health care. even if you cant afford normal health care, you have a chance of being able to cover an emergency health care plan. i have a few friends who have done this, it was something like $200 a year, and it covered them in the case of some crazy emergency where they had to go for a wambulance ride and spend some time in the ER getting patched up.
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The only problem I have is the health care available to me keeps getting worse and worse. I used to have good insurance through my work now it sucks. The people on public aid have better health care then me know and I work my rear off to make a living on my own and support my family of 4. I think we need better health care some way or another. I had great health care less than 3 years ago. What changed that they have to cover less and charge me more? Someone wan't getting rich enough. The problem is with big buisness. Back in the day when people had a good company they would share the wealth with the workers and in turn they could live better lives. Now day the guys at the top want to see how many billions they can make themselfs so they steal from the little guys who do the actual work. Then the majority of the people out there can't afford to buy their own companies products thus ruining their own sales and profits. We need a cap for CEOs like japan where the ceos are only allowed to make so many times the amount of their workers. Thus if your employes make more you can make more thats the only way. Helps the little guys a bit. Sorry for the rant.
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No. And I am also not a fan of the Federal Reserve or the Federal Income Tax. Government needs to reign themselves in and do what they were constitutionally enabled to and nothing more. If you were taxed less, ie. no SS tax, Medicare tax, Income tax, property taxes going to failing public school systems, etc, with some discipline you should be able to provide for your own retirement/medical plan if your employer doesn't have one. Reliance on the government to provide for us with money we are forced to voluntarily give them is not what our Constitutional Republic should be about. IMO
So if your against Income tax, then where does that leave our military? Should we go private funding for that as well, giving power to corporations? I know ours is a 'volunteer army' but nobody joins for free. I see the second amendment to the constitution in your signature, and have read your stance on being a strict constitutionalist, so I would like to get your opinion on that, and what your reactions were when Clinton announced the closing of military bases and scaling back of the size of our military back in the mid 90's?

Not trying to start a fire, just trying to get some info.

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So if your against Income tax, then where does that leave our military? Should we go private funding for that as well, giving power to corporations? I know ours is a 'volunteer army' but nobody joins for free. I see the second amendment to the constitution in your signature, and have read your stance on being a strict constitutionalist, so I would like to get your opinion on that, and what your reactions were when Clinton announced the closing of military bases and scaling back of the size of our military back in the mid 90's?

Not trying to start a fire, just trying to get some info.

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If your are trying to get info then do some research. I'm not going to hold your hand but I will give you this link to read if you really want to learn something: Why An Income Tax is NOT Necessary to Fund the U.S. Government

Here is an excerpt relating to your question:

"How would you fund the government without any direct taxation?

The powers that be know it's just a matter of time before the truth reaches enough Americans about the voluntary income tax system. Already trial balloons are being floated to once again fool the people into some form of alternative tax in order to feed the central bank.

America functioned very well without an income tax throughout the history of this Republic. The answer to the question of funding without a direct tax is found is Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution since 1787. It provides for Congress to pass a legislative bill for tax money to be paid by each state in proportion to its population.

Proper, constitutional funding will allow large amounts of money to fund a limited form of Republican government. To continue on the path of this massive and unconstitutional spending will bring a final and total collapse of the economy. Make no mistake about it."

You can't believe everything you read or hear. That includes what you've been told your income tax revenue is spent on as well as the link I posted. We believe what we choose to believe for whatever reasons we choose to believe them. Do your own research and draw your own conclusions. Don't believe everything you hear - especially if it's from a politician.
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Yes!!

--subquestion: If no!!, are you in favor of medicare, medicaid, and social security?
NO, NO, NO, and NO ...
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Health Care Reform Yes
Government Controlled health Care Reform NO
I have read about Medicare people being charged for prosthetic devices for limbs they still have. Government Oversight Failed
I have had a HMO and a PPO health care plan and I can't believe the stuff I have had to go through to get a procedure that a specialist has prescribed. I am not the person to know if local anesthetic or a general is required of a procedure. Heck I have to study for a urine test.
I believe tort reform on medical treatment is the first step that should be taken. Non emergency patient supplies should be provided by the patient. If I need an aspirin I don't need to pay $7.00 for one. Hygene supplies could be purchased at Wal Mart for very little cash. For years I had my blood pressure tested by a reusable cuff. The last time I was treated they used a disposable cuff can't figure what that must cost but probably a result of some off the wall law suit. (Speculation on my part no proof).
OBAMA CARE NO NO NO
Sorry for the long post this whole push it through at all cost is bothering me.
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How ANYONE can envision the government doing anything but making a mess of socialized medical care is a real mystery to me. Look at the rampant problems the Federal government has simply trying to manage Medicare that is so full of overspending, fraud, red tape, etc. that are beyond ridiculous.

And we want to hand our healthcare over to the Feds who can't even manage to run Medicare efficiently? What are people in favor of that THINKING!!!???
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I don't know why everyone is so afraid of the government running healthcare. I mean, look at all the other things the government runs successfully.
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How ANYONE can envision the government doing anything but making a mess of socialized medical care is a real mystery to me. Look at the rampant problems the Federal government has simply trying to manage Medicare that is so full of overspending, fraud, red tape, etc. that it is beyond ridiculous.

And we want to hand our healthcare over to the Feds who can't even manage to run Medicare efficiently? What are people in favor of that THINKING!!!???
One has only to turn their eyes toward the VA to have all the taste they need of government controlled health care.
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The federal government was meant to deal with issues between the states and issues between foreign powers and the United States. It is not to deal with individual issues.
Health care, Education, welfare and so on are state issues and completely appropriate at that level if the people of the state approve of such. There are very good reasons for such restrictions on federal power.
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The federal government was meant to deal with issues between the states and issues between foreign powers and the United States. It is not to deal with individual issues.
Health care, Education, welfare and so on are state issues and completely appropriate at that level if the people of the state approve of such. There are very good reasons for such restrictions on federal power.
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