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Old 01-29-2014, 09:01 PM   #31
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It would suck to be stuck in that mess right now. Best wishes from MN. Stay safe and stay home until they get it straightened out. Even we super-awesome-prepared-hardy Northerners get caught with our pants down sometimes...




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Old 01-29-2014, 09:19 PM   #32
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So those are all folks who abandoned ship right in the middle of the road? Or are there people still in those cars? Wow. I must truly say I have never seen anything like that before.

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Old 01-29-2014, 09:23 PM   #33
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Good old Lake Shore Drive....

The Chicago blizzard of 2011 was no joke...

January 31 ā€“ February 2, 2011 North American blizzard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Almost two feet of snow in a short time frame...but the snow wasn't the issue. Winds were +30 mph. Gusts were +50mph, with peak gusts hitting +60mph. It was the white out conditions and the +10foot high drifts that were the issue. First time Chicago schools got cancelled since 1999.

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21.2 inches of snow fell at Chicago-O'Hare International Airport, making this the third largest total snowfall in Chicago history,[79] after the infamous Chicago Blizzard of 1967, and the Blizzard of 1999. 24 Inches fell at the 1 N Abingdon mesonet site in Knox County, in West Central Illinois. This was the largest snowfall in the history of the mesonet. Drifts of 10 to 15 feet also occurred. Snowfall rates exceeded 4 inches per hour for a few hours on Tuesday evening as well along with thunder and lightning.
Additional official snowfall totals included 20.9 inches at Chicago-Midway International Airport, 16.4 inches at the National Weather Service office in Romeoville, and 14.3 inches at Chicago Rockford International Airport.[83] The storm's highest total of 27 inches was reported in north suburban Antioch.[1] Peak gusts during the blizzard included 61 mph at O'Hare and 67 mph along the lakefront.[70]
Yeah....people just left their cares along LSD. There was nothing else they could do.


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Old 01-29-2014, 09:56 PM   #34
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Brrrr just looking at those pictures and reminding myself why I moved to Phoenix. I live right next to the TPC Golf Course where they are playing the big golf championship this week. THIS is my idea of winter - not that lol!
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Why in the heck would you not fill your gas tank and carry a coat or blanket in your vehicle? I have enough items in my Jeep to keep me going for 2-3 days.

People are not capable of taking care of themselves anymore. God forbid an earthquake hit or the grid go down in some areas. People would go off the deep end.

I'm no "prepper" but I am prepared. I say shame on you if you aren't in the same boat. The govt isn't going to sustain you.
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Why in the heck would you not fill your gas tank and carry a coat or blanket in your vehicle? I have enough items in my Jeep to keep me going for 2-3 days.

People are not capable of taking care of themselves anymore. God forbid an earthquake hit or the grid go down in some areas. People would go off the deep end.

I'm no "prepper" but I am prepared. I say shame on you if you aren't in the same boat. The govt isn't going to sustain you.
Agreed, I try to keep my gas tank above 1/2 all winter and always have boots, warm coat, gloves, snacks and other supplies in my Jeep... You just don't know especially when things get cold!
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I stay above 1/2 a tank in winter as well...but it isn't just for an emergency. It is to help keep more weight above the rear axle since this is a RWD vehicle. I also keep a blanket, work gloves, a hat, and a puffy vest in my Jeep.
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So those are all folks who abandoned ship right in the middle of the road? Or are there people still in those cars? Wow. I must truly say I have never seen anything like that before.
Back in the 80's, we had an ice storm in East Tennessee that blanketed the whole area with 1/4 to 1/2 inch of ice then covered it in snow. It shut down I-75 from the Kentucky state line all the way down to Chattanooga. Everybody was stuck and the interstate became a parking lot. I left my car off the side of the road and walked about 10 miles home through grass, woods and fields. People had to stay with their cars because you literally could not walk if you got out of the car or there was no where to go. There were a few people with Jeeps and 4x4s with chains taking people coffee and offering rides. It finally broke up almost 2 days later and the traffic started moving again.
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I would rather have a foot of snow, than ice. There is nothing worse to drive in. Stay safe everyone, 4WD does nothing but get you in trouble faster on ice.

We are getting 4-6 inches tomorrow, but that is no big deal, just a slower commute. I will take that any day over your ice.
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Fundamentally the problem was that everyone got on the road at the same time arond noon. If the roads had been clear & dry with 70 degree temps that would have been a gridlock nightmare (think of any holday weekend Friday). Add in some snow melting on relatively warm roads and then freezing in rapidly dropping temps it was a guaranteed disaster.

Closing schools would have been a great move but the school systems were still stinging from the abuse they endured a few weeks back when they closed because of extreme cold (well for Atlanta anyway). Could the PTB have gotten folks to stay home due to a forecast snow of up to 2"? I doubt it.

Long and short of it is that any city that gets hit with a winter weather event in the middle of the working day is going to have a problem. A southern city with a dearth of winter driving experience and removal equipment is going to have it worse.

I was downtown but bailed at 0900, home in 35 minutes.
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I find how interesting it is when it comes to snow melting. Growing up in MT the snow never goes away, whereas here in CO the snow melts the next day. Right now we're getting snow in the mountains, but down in the suburbs we have no snow....yet. I do feel for all of you northern and eastern folks. I would hate to be in Atlanta right now, but all I've got to say is be safe and stay warm. We had snow the other night and coming home from work I had people passing me left and right on the highway (me going 45-50 in a 65), when the temperature dropped, snowplows were out, and the roads were icy. Was waiting for someone to slide out. People just think they are above everyone else because they have AWD or 4 wheel drive
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In a week GA will be back to normal. But the people who took time to help others get home will be remembered a long time. Kuddos
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In 6 months you ask the same people that got stranded, "What have you done to prepare for the coming winter?" 99% of them will give you a blank stare! The gene pool is deteriorating right before our eyes! To many sheep-so few wolves!
Everyone wants to blame someone ELSE...look in the mirror! One woman was interviewed...we've been stranded for 17 hrs, NO water, NO food and we ran out of gas! Why aren't we asking these idiots- "why weren't. You prepared, after all it is winter in North America!??? If I sound unsympathetic...I don't have sympathy for those that CHOOSE to live their lives unprepared!
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I can see how people are unprepared....but I dont understand how people are caught by surprise. Everyone and their mom has a smart phone or a tablet or a laptop. Everyone pretty much knows a couple of days in advance if you are going to get hit with a big snow/ice storm.

With that said...without experience, it will always be a mess in places that are not used to it. In Texas, there were tons of pick-up trucks with open beds and wide/low profie tires. That is great when the roads are dry.....but a RWD, open bed pick-up truck with wide "performance" tires is about the worse possible vehicle you can have in snow. And when the driver is someone who has never driven in snow....you get gridlock and spinouts left and right.
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In 6 months you ask the same people that got stranded, "What have you done to prepare for the coming winter?" 99% of them will give you a blank stare! The gene pool is deteriorating right before our eyes! To many sheep-so few wolves!
Everyone wants to blame someone ELSE...look in the mirror! One woman was interviewed...we've been stranded for 17 hrs, NO water, NO food and we ran out of gas! Why aren't we asking these idiots- "why weren't. You prepared, after all it is winter in North America!??? If I sound unsympathetic...I don't have sympathy for those that CHOOSE to live their lives unprepared!

Unprepared?? Granted most folks don't travel with MRE's, extra water, blankets, extra gas, etc but that's bc most urbanites don't expect a normal 45 min. commute to turn into 12+ hours. I may be a bit touchy on the subject bc I have seen the damaged cars abandoned and litter the sides of roads, had friends sleeping in target and hotel lobbies. When there are multiple trailers jack-knifing, cards colliding, and highways blocked because of it, there's not a damn thing you can do if you're behind the mess and trapped. Don't blame the commuters and remember, hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20.
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What I found funny were all of the horror stories the media was posting the entire time, then each story ended with "2.5 inches of snow". So I'm reading these articles then looking outside at this:



Then on Tuesday my buddy took a picture of a squad going on a ruck march here at FT. Drum.


Good luck Atlanta.
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In Florida, I NEVER keep cold weather gear in my car.... Never.
Now, when I was in Germany, I kept a few blankets, beef jerky, and a few gallons of water because it snowed a LOT and I had no idea what to expect.

During Hurricane season, all vehicles stay above 3/4 tank and we make sure our GOOD bags are double checked and ready to go.
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Don't feel bad Atlanta. We shut everything down when it gets to 90 degrees up here.
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I'm a transplanted NY'er, and we experienced then same problems as Atlanta here in Birmingham. Most posters here keep making jabs at the "2 inches" of snow we got, and the snow wasn't the problem at all. The problem was the 1-2 inches of ICE that formed literally 30-45 minutes after the snow started. I don't care what your driving skills are, or what you drive, but 4 wheels without any traction isn't any better than 2 wheels without traction.

And add to that the fact that southern Birmingham consists of steep hills and small mountains, it isn't surprising we experienced all the problems we had.
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Unprepared?? Granted most folks don't travel with MRE's, extra water, blankets, extra gas, etc but that's bc most urbanites don't expect a normal 45 min. commute to turn into 12+ hours. I may be a bit touchy on the subject bc I have seen the damaged cars abandoned and litter the sides of roads, had friends sleeping in target and hotel lobbies. When there are multiple trailers jack-knifing, cards colliding, and highways blocked because of it, there's not a damn thing you can do if you're behind the mess and trapped. Don't blame the commuters and remember, hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20.
We live NORTH of the equator and North America has winter weather. I am not taking about hindsight, I'm talking about being PREPARED. Having the COMMON SENSE to collect a few items that may just save your life should mother nature decide to "snow on your parade". What is wrong with keeping an extra blanket, water an MRE or 2 and a coffee can with a candle and a full tank of gas in winter??? Especially if you live in the Southern States that are obviously unprepared to deal with even marginal winter weather! And as you state "cars colliding, semis jack-knifing...you have to be PREPARED for the the things the are beyond your control and for the stupidity of others! People running their cars out of gas because they didn't have the common sense ration the gas they did have or fill up their tanks before they left work, THEN they leave their cars ON the interstate?? If I'm caught behind one of these individuals I will have extra food and water, a blanket and baby wipes because I had the foresight to pack a few items that would make the unthinkable...bearable. Like I said earlier...ask these same individuals caught on the interstate in 6 months what they're doing to prepare for the coming winter and the majority will look at you with a blank stare...
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Personal responsibility is a universal expectation in my world. Being capable of sustaining myself and my family is something I cannot imagine taking on whether you're from the south, the north or even California.

I hope the suffering ends for people quickly, but just as important as that I hope people learn from this. I hope people realize having nonperishable food, extra clothing and water in a vehicle makes sense.

My Jeep has the items listed below and still has room for 4 people:

Air compressor
Tow rope
Jumper cables
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2 flashlights
3 ways to make fire
Extra clothes and shoes
Space blanket
Rope and tarp for shelter
4 bottles of water
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Small amount of money to buy food
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I think we are seeing a disproportionate view of society here on this forum. Owning a Jeep in the first place is part of being prepared, to me. So I think we -as Jeep owners- are more inclined to think ahead and be prepared than the average Prius owner. Not an elitist view; just an observation.
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I think we are seeing a disproportionate view of society here on this forum. Owning a Jeep in the first place is part of being prepared, to me. So I think we -as Jeep owners- are more inclined to think ahead and be prepared than the average Prius owner. Not an elitist view; just an observation.
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I live in North West Atlanta just inside the Perimeter (I285). This morning I saw a Honda minivan slip on ice on a secondary street and crash into a car that had been abandoned on a steep hill. It might not be in the press still but the storm is still not over for everybody.
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I sure hope you folks listen to the current forecast and stay safe this time. Park your vehicle and stay home!
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Atlanta and the South are getting another storm, plus one more after that one, on the way.
They are forecasting up to 1/2 inch of ice in some areas, including Atlanta, and up to 1 inch in some others.
With that the lights will be out, and there goes the heat. Hopefully, most of the homes have a good old fashion wood burning fireplace, if not, then plenty of Budweiser to drink, so that you will be numb to the cold...........
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I think it's safe to say that almost the entire country has had an extreme winter. We set 115 yr record lows here over the last couple of days....-21. So, if we all just shifted south 200 miles - all would be happy! Personally I need about 5 times that...
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Ding Ding, Round two.
Lets see how many people listened this time and stayed home.
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Just another sunny beautiful day in Phoenix once again.
Forecast high for today is 84 degrees, 86 tomorrow, and maybe even 90 by Saturday.

I pulled my front panels and doors off yesterday, and will just take the Rubi for a long ride out in the Desert today, may even pack a picnic lunch for the wife and myself, along with a six pack of Budweiser.

OP, Atlanta snow, is that what all of that white stuff is called? They keep showing it on the weather channel. HUUUUM, maybe that is what Santa uses to help deliver his gifts. Well, then it is no wounder that I never get anything for Christmas, because we just don't get any of that white stuff.

Well it's time to put on the suntan lotion, and jump into the Rubi, and have a great day.

I hope that you all enjoy the snow...............

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