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Old 09-24-2012, 09:55 PM   #31
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A good Shotgun will be on top of the list for Best Home Defense Gun, Mossberg 500 or a Remington 870 with holsters for extra shells on the side and on the butt of the gun , Besides when you Kill someone in your Home, the Police will take that weapon for evidence
(you will get it back put who know's how long it will take ) and the thought of them having my $3000 Wilson 1911 for time being aint gonna happen, But a $300-$500 shotgun , I won't loose any sleep over. just my 2 cents.

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A good Shotgun will be on top of the list for Best Home Defense Gun, Mossberg 500 or a Remington 870 with holsters for extra shells on the side and on the butt of the gun , Besides when you Kill someone in your Home, the Police will take that weapon for evidence
(you will get it back put who know's how long it will take ) and the thought of them having my $3000 Wilson 1911 for time being aint gonna happen, But a $300-$500 shotgun , I won't loose any sleep over. just my 2 cents.

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A good Shotgun will be on top of the list for Best Home Defense Gun, Mossberg 500 or a Remington 870 with holsters for extra shells on the side and on the butt of the gun , Besides when you Kill someone in your Home, the Police will take that weapon for evidence
(you will get it back put who know's how long it will take ) and the thought of them having my $3000 Wilson 1911 for time being aint gonna happen, But a $300-$500 shotgun , I won't loose any sleep over. just my 2 cents.
That's a very good point.
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I have the Tauras judge 45/410 stainless and my wife loves to shot it, it's a good sized gun but my wife can handle it no problem and she's 5'2" 110 lbs. The good thing about this gun is in the house you can load it with bird shot first two round, followed by two rounds 00 buckshot, and a finisher of a 250 grain hollow point 45 colt. The bird shot can spread to cover a large area quickly which makes her initial shot placement not so critical, the 00 buck has 4 8.8mm in each shell (in other words it equal to 4 9mm bullets). Then with the last shell the nerves have called down enough that if the person twitches again with a 250 grain hollow point it will punch a fist sized hole in them.

The beauty of this gun is that bird shot has relatively low chance of penetrating walls and killing someone in the next room or down the street. If any one wants to say that bird shot doesn't have the power to take down someone they are full of it. I was testing the gun out to see what it would do and in 7 feet birdshot will blow a hole in 1/2" plywood the size of a basket ball with 5 shells. With the 45 colts I was averaging 3" groups in 25 yards which for a 3" barrel is really good.
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Most ranges will let you rent different guns to try them out. That is how I selected mine. Buying a particular gun because someone else likes theirs, does not always mean that it is the best for you. I fired 10+ weapons before deciding on mine. When you fire the right one, you will know it. It will feel good in your hand, you'll be more on target and after the first shot, you won't cringe or tense up when you shoot it again. It will just feel right. You have to be comfortable with it. I have a Ruger Blackhawk, that will kick me back into a wall. My Baretta 9m shoots a flame and bounces shells off my head.
They both look mean, but I don't like to shoot either of them. That's why I tried so many before deciding on the Walther. So try different ones, before you decide.
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You will never know how many will be in your house , best to have some shells and take cover if you have to reload, Better to have some extra ammo just in case, but hope you never have to use it. It's just good insurance, Kinda like home insurance you don't need it till something happens, or a Motorcycle helmet you don't need it till your head hits the ground. always to have more than not enough.
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I already have this .22, but I'm wanting to get something a bit more substantial. Something that if someone barges into my place in the middle of the night, I don't have to feel like I'm grabbing a squirt gun. Lol. I know it would get the job done.... I just want something closer to the size of a glock or revolver or something. Also, want it to be something that's user friendly for half awake people so I'm not fumbling. :-) Recommendations?

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The squirt gun might be fine for a backup purse gun but for home defense, get a 12 gauge shotgun with maximum capacity. For other defense around the house, you can do a lot with a nice model 60 S&W 357 revolver.
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Cop pulls over an elderly lady, asks for ID and notices she has a Concealed Carry permit.

He asks, 'Ma'am do you have a firearm?'
She says, 'Yes, I have a .45 in the glovebox. I also have a 9mm under the seat and a .38 in my purse."
He asks, "What are you afraid of?"

She answers, "Not a damn thing."
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You will never know how many will be in your house , best to have some shells and take cover if you have to reload, Better to have some extra ammo just in case, but hope you never have to use it. It's just good insurance, Kinda like home insurance you don't need it till something happens, or a Motorcycle helmet you don't need it till your head hits the ground. always to have more than not enough.

I think you missed the sarcasm in my post
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Most ranges will let you rent different guns to try them out. That is how I selected mine. Buying a particular gun because someone else likes theirs, does not always mean that it is the best for you. I fired 10+ weapons before deciding on mine. When you fire the right one, you will know it. It will feel good in your hand, you'll be more on target and after the first shot, you won't cringe or tense up when you shoot it again. It will just feel right. You have to be comfortable with it. I have a Ruger Blackhawk, that will kick me back into a wall. My Baretta 9m shoots a flame and bounces shells off my head.
They both look mean, but I don't like to shoot either of them. That's why I tried so many before deciding on the Walther. So try different ones, before you decide.
JD, you're getting me excited. Let's go shooting! Oh, and excellent advise!
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. I just want something closer to the size of a glock
You've answered your own question. I'd recommend a Glock 17. It's 9 mm, so you get 17 bullets per magazine. and with the right hollow point, it will give you what you're after, with less recoil than a .40 or .45 cal would.
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I think you missed the sarcasm in my post
Yea I did miss it , I take this stuff way to serious !! ,
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Yea I did miss it , I take this stuff way to serious !! ,
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So here's my evidence that I need to take a class.... After u turn the safety off on a glock, is there anything u need to do before pulling the trigger? (besides aim.... ha)
You of all people know that practice makes perfect. How do you dominate in any sport? I would absolutely recommend taking a concealed weapons class. It will give you more confidence and it's fun. Then whatever gun you get comfortable with will become second nature. You also might consider laser sights.
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The best home defense gun is the largest caliber you are able to control and hit consistently with. Train, take a couple of classes. And get out of the mind set the a 12g shotgun sound is the best thing for home defense. Racking a pump shotgun isn't going to do anything other than give the intruder a target (sound) to shot at.

You need to know how to manipulate it as does your partner. If not don't leave it at home, they they or you pull it out you better have intentions on using it no waving it around to scare someone. If your hesitant in a situation like that it will be taken from you and will be used on you.

Be comfortable with your weapon of your choosing. Know what to do when it malfunctions. Know how to clear it and get it back in the fight. And know what that projectile is going to do if you miss. Will it hit your wall and stop? Probably not. Is your kids bedroom behind the intruder? Is your wife behind the intruder? What is that 12g slug going to do? Will the buck shot go throw the wall? Yes more so that you think. A lot more!

Their is no easy answer to this question. In fact it brings up many more than the intended question.
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IMO, Glock, all the way. Get an attachable light also. For smaller hands go with the g26, medium size hands I would go g19. Keep a few clips with hollow points.
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I've got 2 m&p 40s. Leaves a big enough hole that it will stop just about anyone dumb enough to break in. Was gonna buy the 45, but my wife already had the 40 and I didn't want to worry about reaching for the wrong magazine.

If I was using a shotgun for home defense, I would have one shell loaded with rock salt as a warning shot. If that didn't stop em, they'd get something heavier.
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I use a ruger 44mag and a stoeger coach gun two barrels of 00 buckshot and if need be a mini 14 with 20 rounds
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One point that seems to have been missed is ammo. Low quality ammo will increase the chances of failure to eject in a semi auto. Compare the ballistics info on the rounds you are considering. A heavier bullet or higher muzzle velocity is going to have more recoil. Gun weight also will influence recoil. Less recoil means its easier to re-acquire your target and put more rounds in it.
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870 12 gauge pump, 18 inch barrel and a 8 round tube filled with 00 or 000 buckshot
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I just cleaned my 870 and while I was at it I removed my plug and I reload my own shells so im pretty good on the shotgun side of things my dad has a 380 and its so small I hate it ....I have big hands and it'd way to small lol
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You of all people know that practice makes perfect. How do you dominate in any sport? I would absolutely recommend taking a concealed weapons class. It will give you more confidence and it's fun. Then whatever gun you get comfortable with will become second nature. You also might consider laser sights.
She asked about home defense, not concealed. But your points about practice makes perfect, and training are right on!
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IMO, Glock, all the way. Get an attachable light also. For smaller hands go with the g26, medium size hands I would go g19. Keep a few clips with hollow points.
The hand size thing can be minimized even on a full size Glock 17, as long as a Gen 4. I prefer to recommend full size over compact or subcompact because the full size helps reduce felt recoil, helping with accuracy.

But as others have said, nothing beats practice, and not just standing at the range. I'd recommend perfecting that first, but then some defensive tactical shooting classes, which put added pressure and real life scenarios into the picture. Shooting while adrenaline is pumping, heart is speeding, panic setting in, with low visibility is quite different than standing calmly at target practice, wearing your eyes and ears in a nicely-lit range.
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The hand size thing can be minimized even on a full size Glock 17, as long as a Gen 4. I prefer to recommend full size over compact or subcompact because the full size helps reduce felt recoil, helping with accuracy.

But as others have said, nothing beats practice, and not just standing at the range. I'd recommend perfecting that first, but then some defensive tactical shooting classes, which put added pressure and real life scenarios into the picture. Shooting while adrenaline is pumping, heart is speeding, panic setting in, with low visibility is quite different than standing calmly at target practice, wearing your eyes and ears in a nicely-lit range.
That's true. But you still have a full size. This is a female asking what would be best. A 17 even with different grips is to big for most ladies. As said before the 26 would be best.
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My wife has no problem with the m&p 40. Different grip sizes give you some flexibility in getting a good fit.
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My personal opinion, I prefer handguns for home defense because they are easy to store and easy to maneuver with.

Looks like you guys have this handled...
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Still reading any and all input. The main thing I'm picking up is that I need to practice which I hate that I haven't done AT ALL yet. I did plan on doing it eventually, but I really need to make it a priority.
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Still reading any and all input. The main thing I'm picking up is that I need to practice which I hate that I haven't done AT ALL yet. I did plan on doing it eventually, but I really need to make it a priority.
Yes you do, and once you go and shoot it, you'll be hooked
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