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Old 11-11-2010, 02:17 PM   #31
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Amazon is a retailer... they sell thoundsands of books. I love Amazon, and they have "Student Prime". It is free for college students and gives free 2 day shipping on most goodies. Lookin' out for the college students
...and pedophiles

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Old 11-11-2010, 02:19 PM   #32
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I went to war to protect my freedoms, and the freedoms of my fellow countrymen. The same freedoms I see getting s**t on and squashed every day. Let Amazon sell whatever they please, if you don't like it, then don't buy it. I don't agree with a pedophile book, so I just won't buy it.

Did you also not fight to protect the rights of people to complain?

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This is NOT a Constitutional fight in any regard. It is a private business with upset customers.

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Amazon has pulled the book.

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Old 11-11-2010, 02:26 PM   #34
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... it doesn't matter what you like, you can't force your ethics or tastes on others.
Of course you can. You* do all the time. When the pizza restaurant down the street starting charging $2.50 for delivery, you "boycotted" them. When the local autoparts store started stocking inferior products, you not only boycotted them, you told your friends to quit shopping there.

When your church hired that new pastor that you didn't like, you started going somewhere else, and suggested that your cousins do the same.

When the corner store starting putting skin magazines right up front, you told them they should move them.

We vote with our pocketbooks all the time. We tell our friends about our decisions.

What's different about telling a big company that you and your friends won't shop there anymore, unless they change something?

*obviously, I'm using "you" in a generic sense.
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agree. if you dont like the book, dont buy it. Otherwise think of it as a potential pedophile tracker ha ha
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:40 PM   #36
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Complaining isn't censorship.
neither is a business choosing not carrying a book because of moral implications. i don't carry Poulan power equipment because i feel that their stuff is garbage, does that mean that i am censoring Poulan?

no one, including amazon, has told the author that he cannot publish a book like this.
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:53 PM   #37
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Of course you can. You* do all the time. When the pizza restaurant down the street starting charging $2.50 for delivery, you "boycotted" them. When the local autoparts store started stocking inferior products, you not only boycotted them, you told your friends to quit shopping there.

When your church hired that new pastor that you didn't like, you started going somewhere else, and suggested that your cousins do the same.

When the corner store starting putting skin magazines right up front, you told them they should move them.

We vote with our pocketbooks all the time. We tell our friends about our decisions.

What's different about telling a big company that you and your friends won't shop there anymore, unless they change something?

*obviously, I'm using "you" in a generic sense.
choosing who i do or don't patronize and why is not forcing my ethics or tastes on anyone, because i EXPECT others to be intelligent enough to make their own decisions. because the average person is too stupid to think for themselves is not a valid defense and i refuse to let stupidity guide my hand.
this is an issue of me telling you something is wrong and that you have to listen to what i say.
i do not support that whatsoever.
someone making a case for a boycott because they think something is wrong is completely fine and it's their right to do so, but if it turns into an issue that they NEED to do so, i'm saying that i don't NEED anyone looking out for my best interests, i can do that myself, as we should all be expected to. if someone wants my input or if i feel strongly about something, then i may very well give my opinion. but who is taking my word as gospel? i know i don't take anyone's word as such, i make my own conclusions.
if i were to have a bad experience with bestop and i shared that on here, i'm not FORCING anyone to do anything, i'm sharing my experience in the hopes that it will either 1. help educate people when they make a decision or 2. try as a customer to enact a change in your customer service policies. i'm not FORCING anyone into anything. if bestop wants to continue crap customer service, they certainly can by all means.
i have never dealt with your company, just using it as an example given you are who you are.
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Its like towns banning toys in a happy meal cause they promote bad eating habits or whatever. Its stupid. fast food is bad for you whether or not I get a hot wheels isnt gonna make my butt any bigger or make my kid fat and lazy
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:09 PM   #39
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It wouldn't be free speech if there was a line it would be limited speech. And who's the guy or gal who decides where the line is drawn? Again who cares what the book is about, if you don't like it don't buy it. They sell bibles and religious books to, bet they have created much more war and harm than a book about pedophiles ever could.
yep please see post three above yours
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Some of you sound like ACLU groupies, which (the ACLU) is slowly and surely chipping away at the moral and ethical principles this country was founded on. I don't think Benjamin Franklin would have printed a book titled "Pedophiles Guide". And I don't think any of our founding fathers would have approved of such a book being sold at the local book store.
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:56 PM   #41
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welp, leaving this one before it gets ugly........
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Old 11-11-2010, 04:03 PM   #42
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welp, leaving this one before it gets ugly........
To late, but I'm right behind you.
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Old 11-11-2010, 05:35 PM   #43
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Selling a book about how to screw little kids should not be allowed in my opinion.
There's got to be common sense used here.
Kid touchers are the lowest form of life and anything or anyone that condones it should not be allowed to do so.
In this instance I'd focus more on the kid's freedoms than the ones who want to hurt them.
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Keep it classy folks...
Remember no personal attacks...


carry on...
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Old 11-11-2010, 05:53 PM   #45
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I can't believe all the empathetic people on here. "If it doesn't affect me, who cares!". You don't care that our country is starting to fill up with perverts and pedophiles. It's getting so bad that someone can order up a, "how to rape children" book and people don't care.
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:41 PM   #47
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I ordered two copies already. (I figured I'd wear out the first one in no time.....) Can't wait to get to work!!!!

Actually, there's no way I could boycott Amazon. I'm a Platinum buyer on Amazon. So, whether or not I (or any of you) think they're right or wrong (morally), I'll continue to give Amazon my money. I'm not quite sure why everyone is up in arms about this. There are FAR better battles to pick than this. Put your energy to use where it really counts. Like getting Obama impeached.
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Yeah I'm waitin on my copy too, gonna get started raping next week sometime, saving up for the white windowless van as we speak. I'll begin by targeting the children of republicans and Obama haters.
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Yeah I'm waitin on my copy too, gonna get started raping next week sometime, saving up for the white windowless van as we speak. I'll begin by targeting the children of republicans and Obama haters.
Plenty of us Obama doubters here on the forum. Take your pick. I'm one, but I have no children. (That I know of......)
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Amazon is awesome. I buy from then al the time. They will refund anything without a question and even pay return shipping. Plus 3.99 over night shipping win win
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:45 PM   #51
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Amazon is awesome. I buy from then al the time. They will refund anything without a question and even pay return shipping. Plus 3.99 over night shipping win win
I hear ya. I've got a bundle of goodies coming tomorrow from Amazon.

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