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Old 05-15-2008, 08:45 PM   #1
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yeah, I heard about this today at lunch, cnn was on and their stupid guy kept commenting as to how complicated of a situation it is, seems pretty simple to me.
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huh?

got a link at least to the story?

contrary to popular belief california is not the center of everyhting and i have no idea what ur talking about
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huh?

got a link at least to the story?

contrary to popular belief california is not the center of everyhting and i have no idea what ur talking about

Here ya go but I don't think you want to know.....


California's Top Court Legalizes Gay Marriage.
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seems like everyone here is against this, but i say good for them. being around gay people never bothered me and i'm sure being around married gay people won't bother me either.
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i used to feel that way, but i started reading about it, and reading the homosexual movement, and their goals.

i figured hey, let them do their thing, i leave them alone, they leave me alone. but thats not their idea. i've read articles, and newsletters by gay publications, and they are devoted to forcing themselves and their lifestyle on others. they literally said they won't rest untill they've recruited the world to their belief. and they infultrated our public schools, and forced our little children to hear about this, explicitly. and the parents had no warning, or option to remove their child from these situations. no way. and thats why i scrape every penny to send my 5 yr old to a christian school.

now this isn't all gays, but there's too many that are more than passive, and trying to indoctrinate our society. and that is not acceptable to me.
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i used to feel that way, but i started reading about it, and reading the homosexual movement, and their goals.

i figured hey, let them do their thing, i leave them alone, they leave me alone. but thats not their idea. i've read articles, and newsletters by gay publications, and they are devoted to forcing themselves and their lifestyle on others. they literally said they won't rest untill they've recruited the world to their belief. and they infultrated our public schools, and forced our little children to hear about this, explicitly. and the parents had no warning, or option to remove their child from these situations. no way. and thats why i scrape every penny to send my 5 yr old to a christian school.

now this isn't all gays, but there's too many that are more than passive, and trying to indoctrinate our society. and that is not acceptable to me.
Amen to that. My kids are home schooled but thats because I don't like public school in general and moving a lot in the military it's easier.
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huh?

got a link at least to the story?

contrary to popular belief california is not the center of everyhting and i have no idea what ur talking about
Yes it is....Much like the country of texas.
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oh it was on the front page of the paper today,
guess it took a few days to get over here to Mass

u wont even notice it though, gay marrage has been legal here for two years and there's no difference, just let them be, and iv'e never heard of them recruiting anyone, their whole stance is that it isnt a choice its genetics so idk how they can say they want to recruit people

btw im in a public school and there is no talk of gay people at all, only on day of silence where theres no talk of them either some ppl just dont talk haha
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I don't care who you want to live or sleep with. Have had many gay friends. Some of my best girlfriends were gay guys.

However, I am old fashioned in a few things. Marriage is a vow I hold very sacred, I've suffered plenty to have a happy 22 year marriage.

Were it gets complicated, and it seems no politician will come right out and say it, is social security benefits. Those benefits can and are abused too. Throw surviving spouses of gays into the mix and it further burdens our already F'd social security.

I have no problem recognizing gays as committed couples, deep down, I think it is wrong to see them as married couples. I think some things are allowed to stay the way it was intended to be. This is one of them.
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I think we should let gays be gays, we can't stop them, but I don't think we should allow the insitution of marriage to be defamed in that manner, nor should california judges govern from the bench, as for the school thing, I saw on the news last week where some district (I forget where) was begining to teach a pro homosexual stance to kindergarten students, that ridiculous. what ppl do behind closed doors is there business, but when it starts to affect my family, and children have to see these ppl in public, that is wrong.
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and children have to see these ppl in public, that is wrong.
OH NO not gay people in PUBLIC!!!
we should LOCK them away!!!!!
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For the first time ever, Debruins is making sense. Who gives a rat's ass what other people are doing with another consenting adult. Who cares if they get married. Who cares if they benefit from the contract, because that's all it is. You can get married only in the church and the state does not recognize it without paperwork. They want the contract part. Who cares. Let 'em.
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I would argue that alot of people who beleive in moral right and wrong, ppl who care about the future of our nation and children, as well as those who understand the principles and beleifs our country was founded on would care.

I normally don't voice that much of my opinion on stuff that has to do with morality and an individuals choices, but there are a few things that irk me.

As far as what debruins said, no we shouldn't lock them away but they should have the respect for others to keep what ever they do in private.
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Morality is not law and no one has the right to force their morals on someone else. It goes both ways. People came here from England to be able to worship and live as they saw fit. Those who take the moral high ground should remember that this country was stolen from the Native Americans regardless of what it was founded on. I believe that's a biggy on the scale of sins.

Once again, two consenting adults should be able to have even the most basic of rights. Two men getting married effects me not one bit. Don't care.
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OK, I'm gonna chime in with my two cents... Partly because I'm bored and just wanna stir up a little trouble on the board.

Gays and Marriage...

My take on homosexuality is the same as my take on religion. I don't care what you do or believe in, just don't force it on me.

My experience with those who turn their nose up and look down on what others are doing is... If you dig far enough into their closet, you'll find all sorts of nasty stuff.

And granted, just as most, I blurt out the wrong thing from time to time and have to think about what I've just said.

And I just love the fact that people jump on a bandwagon just because its either trendy or makes them feel like they don't have as many problems as the next guy. And they do this without fully understanding the gravity of the topic. Hell, I've done it too. But I continue to learn everyday.
NO ONE is perfect or without fault. So next time, before you offer your opinion on a topic you have very little understanding on, or you think you're perfect, take a good long look in the mirror at just how asymmetric your melon is!

I don't have a problem with gays getting married. I don't care what they do short of boxing their brownies on my front porch.
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seems like everyone here is against this, but i say good for them. being around gay people never bothered me and i'm sure being around married gay people won't bother me either.
I'm not against it.
I can't understand why anyone would think the state has any business saying who can or can't be married.
Personal lives are not the purview of the state, it should be between the person and their God/gods.
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[QUOTE=tiny terror;229939]Morality is not law and no one has the right to force their morals on someone else.

so your kindergartner hearing that homosexuality is acceptable, and ok, when you as a parent teach them otherwise is ok. sounds like their morals are being forced on us.

what if public school told your kids stealing is ok.
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My child is in public school and hasn't been "recruited". My 18 year old lived all the way through public school without being "recruited". They're pretty busy teaching the kids how to read and write, don't think "gay lifestyles" has made it into the curriculum. Don't think it will either. In fact, when health was taught, or any sort of sexuality class, I had to sign paperwork to allow my kids into it. Still have control and live in Cali.
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i can site instances where public schools have held assemblies for elementary school kids, and had homosexual speakers come up and use language i don't want my children hearing, on any subject.

like i said, i used to say who cares, but now that i see thats not their stance, mine changed also. they are on tv now prime time kissing. i've only heard about it cuz we rarely watch the one tv in our house thats not in the living room. (more people should try that)

most parents now days are too busy with them selves to know whats going on in their kids school, mine were. now that my oldest son is in school, i make sure i know. marriage is a sacred part of our society, that has first been reduced to practically nothing with rampant divorce, which is practically expected now. and now gays getting married.

our society is in a downward sprial and has been for a long time. christians (which i am one of) have become weak, and don't stand up for anything, or they just call themselves christians, but everyday but sunday, they are like everyone else.

i could go on, but i'll stop for now.
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Morals are private and personal. If you talk to your kids, no one can "indoctrinate" them... not even the church.
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I guess so with the economy as shitty as it is. How many stay at home mom's do you know nowadays? And how many dads today have to work two jobs along with a working mother in order to afford the gas and groceries it takes to raise children.

You wanna talk about a religious debate?... Lets talk about a worldwide ban on conception. 6.5 billion people on a planet that can only handle about 3.
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Everybody has good points, DBruin you're way way off on this. What pisses me off is the "in your face" attitude the gay's who make TV time who,represent the whole community? These people who you want to coddle and make safe are working over time to take your rights away from you. They oppose every thing you stand for, right down to your Jeep and the land you wheel on.

Let them live, but fight them on every right the want to take away or destroy.
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^well said

quote: You wanna talk about a religious debate?... Lets talk about a worldwide ban on conception. 6.5 billion people on a planet that can only handle about 3.[/QUOTE]

what about those people in the earthquake, i think in china somewhere (sorry my facts aren't great on this one) where last i heard 20,000 died, many kids in school. and in that country they are only allowed to have 1 child. thousands of people lost their only child.
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They oppose every thing you stand for, right down to your Jeep and the land you wheel on.


Because they're gay and they want to be able to be recognized as a legit couple and have insurance for their partner?

I'm shocked to find out that gay people hate jeeps with such a vengence. Lock 'em up, they'll be after the Landcruisers next.
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ohhhhh, this is about insurance. little more complicated i think.

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