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Old 01-11-2013, 04:02 AM   #1
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Camping Advice

Hey guys.. I have a question about camping.

I'm a novice camper, but enjoy the outdoors.

Since I got the Jeep a couple months ago I've also recently gotten a kayak that I love.

I'm going on a trip with some buddies. We're putting in at a river. It's about 60 miles till the river spits out to the Gulf which will be the final destination.

I have a sleeping bag rated to 20 degrees faren.
I have a kayak.

I need to know what other gear or supplies I should be getting for the trip.

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Old 01-11-2013, 08:02 AM   #2
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Check with your buddies, see what all they are bringing, and go from there. See if they want to divide up the cost of the food, water, campfire supplies, etc. Also, that way you can see if you are going to need to buy a tent or if one of you buddies will let you share. Make sure you take tiolet paper, and if you aren't staying in a regular campground, you might want an entrenching tool or folding shovel.

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Old 01-11-2013, 08:03 AM   #3
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Just off the top of my head:
Tarp/tent
sleeping pad
mess kit
sharp hatchet
utility knife, >= 4" blade
para cords
butane lighter
head lamp/mag light
water purification/storage
TP
first aid kit
fishing tackle (just a line and few hooks/lures at a minimum)

This is depending on the size of your kayak. I could throw a lot more creature comforts in there if you have a big boat
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Something to think about is how large your kayak is, and what provisions it has for carrying gear/etc.
the most important thing you will need space for is food and water. that is also what will most likely take up the most room.
also think about what the weather and terrain will be like where you will be at. if you are going to be camping out on beaches in a warm area, skip the sleeping bag/pad, etc. personally, if i were you, and that was the case, a ground cloth, a camping pillow, and an old military surplus blanket are all i would take. no need to have a 20 degree bag if the weather is going to be up in the 70s-80s all the time.

look at the ultra light stuff for backpackers. it will probably be more money than you want to spend, but that is ok, it gives you ideas. walk around the camping isle at walmart some too. lots of good things to be had there at low prices(in most cases however, tents are not on that list)

talk with your buddies who are also on the trip. not all of you need to carry a hatchet/shovel/etc. dividing up the load makes it easier on all of you.

and most importantly, get some sort of hydration pack. i used to swear by camelbak, but they have since become unreasonable in price. here is another area where walmart is nice. $20-$30 gets you something that will work wonderfully whether you are on a kayak trip, day hike, or have it strapped to the back of your seat for a day of offroading.
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A vehicle at the takeout point.

Waterproof pack. (A real dry pack)
Poncho / rain gear
Camping knife - those extra tools are needed
change of clothes - at least underwear and socks
firestarter

Before you do a water trip try a overnighter based from you jeep. You don't want to be downriver and find out you are missing something important. Learn how to setup the tent and cook over a fire.
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Another point, have you had the kayak in a river before? If not get some lessons on how to handle it in current.
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:56 PM   #7
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From what I heard on the news this morning about florida, something to ward off pythons. No way in hell would I be caught dead with all those snakes slithering aorund.
I wouldnt even get out of the jeep....
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Sounds like a ton of fun.

Topo maps of the entire route & a GOOD compass, not the 7$ Walmart/target/dicks compasses.
At least 100' mil5040c paracord
Pocket knife, ~3" one hand openable
Filet knife, if you intend to fish at all
Small hatchett or survival saw (two total for the group)
Dry bags
Ability to carry 2L purified water (one days worth)
Water filter (or tabs, filters are immediate though)
Cathole shovel (if you dont know, ask mr google - also, dont "make catholes" within 100' of water sources, and if you bury tp, animals are likely to dig it back up - it is generally not recommended to do so. Mix dirt around with the contents when done to aide decomposition - this is to prevent spread of desease, not to hug trees.)
GOOD rain gear, like toggs
Camping food, like mtn house, for the trip & 2 days extra
A multipurpose pot, where you get 1 pot and 1 lid/skillet. Bonus points for a pot with a spout. The stove should store inside it with fuel, assuming an iso pocket stove.
I prefer pocket iso-butane stoves. Just pick one you like and be familiar with its operation and cleaning procedures, there are so many options here it is rediculous. I can give specifics on my cook gear if ya like.
A fire starter (like magnesium rods or similar)
A cigarette lighter (Bic, not a cheapy one)
(May want to consider vasoline soaked cotton balls as fire starters, youtube how, I think that is silly though)
SOCKS!
An LED headlamp <-very important
A flashlight
Another flashlight (or a compact battery lattern)
Extra batteries for everything
A first aid kit, and not the cheap preassembled jazz. Look at real ones (trauma kits or expedition kits), then go to a local pharmacy. 30$ later you are very well equiped. Don't take the heavy dumb stuff or all those ointment packs. Airway, breathing, circulation, deformaties, environment - prepare for those, not sunburn or ant bites. Don't carry gear beyond your abilities.
Something(s) to communicate with - PLB, amatuer radio, cellphones (not reliable at all, but better than nothing), etc.
Deck of cards, miniature ones are often at hiking stores
Small bottle hand sanitizer
Airpad
Sleeping bag/fleece throw
Tent

Seems like a lot, but I hike with that on my back in an unframed pack - it should fit in a boat, provided you have any bulkhead capacity behind ya. If it is class I & less you can just tie off dry bags to your boat - learn knots!. I also probably forgot a couple things, but that is a pretty comprehensive list.

Know the river ahead of time, any real rapids, and what they do dry or wet season.
Know how to read a compass WELL. Rivers always flow out, but that may not be the fastest way in an emergency.
It is very helpful if someone is WFA or WFR certified, or has other medical training for similar scenarios.
And most of all, know how to paddle & know your boat.

I so wish I could go on a float - it will be a lifelong memory, I promise. Make sure it is a positive one. So cool. =)
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:51 PM   #10
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Check REI.com On their web site they have different check lists for camping, kayaking, etc..Lot of helpful info there...

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