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Old 12-14-2012, 06:57 AM   #31
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WalMart's new motto is One Shot Stopping.

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Old 12-15-2012, 02:57 AM   #32
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The 9mm AR's are the shizz
One of the nicest things about the AR is that all you have to do is change the barrel and upper and you can run just about any round you want through it!

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Old 12-15-2012, 10:25 AM   #33
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I think it should all be available, I just have no faith in the associates ability to sell to the right people.
All 18yrs or older, who can pass the background check, are the right people.

I use highly frangible bullets all the time while predator hunting.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:06 PM   #34
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All 18yrs or older, who can pass the background check, are the right people.

I use highly frangible bullets all the time while predator hunting.
21 in VA with proof of citizenship, and that's pretty much my point. All good though, no worries.

Happy hunting. My buddies round here usually go with hp for varmint/predator. I do, too.
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I get it blue ridge .

I expect Wally World to sell toys and goofy drinking straws.

I don't expect toy stores to sell sex toys and don't expect amusement parks to sell something which purpose is to kill. It IS a bizarre place to buy a gun... Especially for those of us who have respect for handling guns -.
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Walmart was selling guns 30 years ago, long before they started selling groceries. Who were you implying has no respect for guns?
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Old 12-16-2012, 04:02 PM   #37
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Walmart was selling guns 30 years ago, long before they started selling groceries. Who were you implying has no respect for guns?
I DO expect walmart as a major sporting goods store to sell sporting goods including guns. Wally World is kind of kid oriented. It is odd that's all.

Odd in the same way Spencer's Gifts sells Sesame Street socks and wind up jumping private parts. Illegal -no. Weird- yes
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Old 12-16-2012, 04:10 PM   #38
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Yes, you do.
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Oh duh! I just read the original post LOL... Wally is Walmart ... Lol... English is not my first language as you can tell by my mistakes in written forms . I take it all back
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Oh duh! I just read the original post LOL... Wally is Walmart ... Lol... English is not my first language as you can tell by my mistakes in written forms . I take it all back
So you don't find it weird a place that refuses obscene music sales because they are influentally negative sells assault rifles (by legal definition)? A place you can be fired for 1 f-word at work. A place employees can't leave locked firearms in their POV. Interesting.

I do find it weird. In the same way, to use your analogy, that I find it weird a 12yo can walk into spencers in the mall for aforementioned socks and see items geared at 18+ crowds. Not illegal, but weird.

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I don't see why you think it's so weird. WalMart would sell guillotines if they thought they could make a buck.
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Blue ridge. I think I misunderstand something in the original post which is why I suppose I am confusing you. I. Wally is Walmart right? I think Walmart is kind of a soulless pit of contradictions, greed and fake patriotism so I DON'T find anything they do there odd lol! I expect a place like Walmart to be hypocritical. And yes... I suppose it is odd they sell teddy bears and assault rifleS. Surprisingly -no

I apologize . Even after living here so many years and working in the us , I struggle whe. Writing
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I apologize . Even after living here so many years and working in the us , I struggle whe. Writing
No worries bud, and no apology needed. =)

Yes, Wally World is Walmart.
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So you don't find it weird a place that refuses obscene music sales because they are influentally negative sells assault rifles (by legal definition)?
An assault rifle is select fire (either fully automatic or burst). You're probably thinking of "assault weapon." Which is a coined up name by people with an agenda that want to demonize any and all firearms and want to piss all over the Constitution.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:27 PM   #45
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An assault rifle is select fire (either fully automatic or burst). You're probably thinking of "assault weapon." Which is a coined up name by people with an agenda that want to demonize any and all firearms and want to piss all over the Constitution.
I wasn't aware. I thought the AR in AR15 was assault rifle. The AR 15 in question (Colt LE6920) is semi auto. I thought the M4 was the fully automatic version of this AR15.
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An assault rifle is a select-fire (either fully automatic or burst capable) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine. It is not to be confused with assault weapons.[1] Assault rifles are the standard service rifles in most modern armies. Assault rifles are categorized in between light machine guns, which are intended more for sustained automatic fire in a light support role, and submachine guns, which fire a pistol cartridge rather than a rifle cartridge.


Assault weapon is a non-technical term referring to any of a broad category of firearms with certain features, including some semiautomatic rifles, some pistols, and some shotguns. There are a variety of different statutory definitions of assault weapons in local, state, and federal laws in the United States that define them by a set of characteristics they possess. Using lists of physical features or specific firearms in defining assault weapons in the U.S. was first codified by the language of the now-expired 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban.[1] sometimes described as military-style features useful in combat.[2] A common usage is to interchange the term with assault rifle, but unlike that term, "assault weapon" has no consistent or specific definition and so is subject to varying definitions for varying purposes, including definitions that include common non-military-style firearms.


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AR stands for Armalite Rifle designed by Eugene Stoner and later sold to Colt. An M4 is a shorter barrel version of an M16 with some other changes as well. M16s and M4s are military versions based off the AR design.

Also the M4A1 is the automatic version. An M4 has burst.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:22 AM   #48
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Not all walmarts carry guns. The one in my home town used to, and for some unknown reason stopped. I have no problem with guns at walmart, I prefer to buy locally or at a cabelas type store where I know the person behind the counter knows at least the basics.
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i taught my buddies kids how to shoot this weekend.
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Got a tough choice coming up, do I buy the parts I want for my Jeep or purchase an AR-15 before they try and ban them again? opinons?
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buy lower recievers. stripped only 100 bucks. i have 7 that are sitting waiting to be built. the rest of the stuff you can buy threw the mail.
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Might be a good idea to stock up on magazines too.
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buy lower recievers. stripped only 100 bucks. i have 7 that are sitting waiting to be built. the rest of the stuff you can buy threw the mail.
I have no idea how to build up the Lower receiver. I would need to be schooled.
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you tube and 20 mins. its easy. putting a standard trigger group in a lower receiver is stupid easy.
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Got a tough choice coming up, do I buy the parts I want for my Jeep or purchase an AR-15 before they try and ban them again? opinons?
Given the current hand wringing going on right now, plus the implications the president made last night, I'd go with buying the AR..
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An assault rifle is select fire (either fully automatic or burst). You're probably thinking of "assault weapon." Which is a coined up name by people with an agenda that want to demonize any and all firearms and want to piss all over the Constitution.
Looks like we were both wrong. I meant Assault Firearm.

"Transfer of an Assault Firearm
Proof of citizenship, or of lawful admission for a permanent residence, must be established prior to the purchase of an "assault firearm." An assault firearm is defined as any semi-automatic center-fire rifle or pistol that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is equipped at the time of offence with a magazine which will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock.

One of the following forms of proof of citizenship or lawful residence, pursuant to§18.2-308.2*must be presented to purchase an assault firearm:
a certified birth certificate or certificate of birth abroad issued by the US State Department,
an un-expired US Passport,
a U. S. citizen identification card,
a current voter registration card,
a current selective service registration card,
an immigrant or registration card issued by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, and
a certificate of citizenship or a certificate of naturalization issued by the Immigration and Naturalization Service."

Per VA state law, I am not very interested in other States interpritation.

And with the obvious confusion of what is what, you guys are making my point for me -

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... I prefer to buy locally or at a cabelas type store where I know the person behind the counter knows at least the basics.
- And that is it.

But whatever. Buy guns from wherever you choose, it don't bother me. I just wish we could buy real rifles, not just the nuedered type.
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Given the current hand wringing going on right now, plus the implications the president made last night, I'd go with buying the AR..
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Might be a good idea to stock up on magazines too.
Good advice.

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Looks like we were both wrong. I meant Assault Firearm.
My point still stands. Assault rifle or firearm both terms are used to demonize firearms by people that want to take them away. And by that definition above anything bigger than a .22 is an assault weapon of mass destruction.
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Given the current hand wringing going on right now, plus the implications the president made last night, I'd go with buying the AR..
Buy the AR, if only to piss off the nay-sayers.
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My point still stands. Assault rifle or firearm both terms are used to demonize firearms by people that want to take them away. And by that definition above anything bigger than a .22 is an assault weapon of mass destruction.
I use legal terms to define legalities; I'm not sure what your implication is.

According to the VA definition? No, a .17 or .22 could be and a .458 wouldn't be on size alone. Nothing to do with cartridge size, more to do with accys & mag size. Which is silly, as it isn't the mag that kills, or the foregrip, or the pistol grip, or the fact it is usually black.

Those truely concerned with not demonizing firearms or stripping rights should write your Congressperson to repeal the Reagan/Hughes machine gun ban of 1986. It is what actually killed the 2nd Amendment.

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