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Old 09-13-2007, 09:51 AM   #1
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Creative thinkers please take a look

OK theres no Fabricators sub forum so I'll put it here.

I have a toy that I cannot use easily.


yes the welder

prob is its 220V and I only have 110v in my little garage.

I'd rather not run 220 out to the little garage because within the next few years I'm going to build a 3 stall garage on my 2nd lot and will run 220 to that.
Any ideas to get some use out of the welder?

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Does your dryer run on 220? if you only use the welder for short runs just run an extension plug and plug into the dryer for those times you need it. I know not convenient but will work until you get your 2nd lot setup

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Does your dryer run on 220? if you only use the welder for short runs just run an extension plug and plug into the dryer for those times you need it. I know not convenient but will work until you get your 2nd lot setup
Dryer is 40' + away, not sure how safe that would be.
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Running from the 220 outlet, couldn't you just replace the breaker with one with a little higher amp rating? I was thinking of doing the same thing as my laundry room backs up to the garage wall. Just need to get a welder.
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Running from the 220 outlet, couldn't you just replace the breaker with one with a little higher amp rating? I was thinking of doing the same thing as my laundry room backs up to the garage wall. Just need to get a welder.
A short distance like that would be ok.
running a 40' cord to my basement doesn't seem like a good idea.
Bernm8 is right just using it as a tack welder may be OK but if your trying to lay down beads a 40' cord is going to get rather hot and prolly not due the welder itself much good either.
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Go ahead and run the wires to the garage,then when you build the new garage just move the wiring temporarily.
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Go ahead and run the wires to the garage,then when you build the new garage just move the wiring temporarily.
Garage on second lot will take a lot more wire. Very unethical to splice direct berial wire.
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On my same question, can I put a 220 outlet directly oppisit the one in the house for the dryer? Wired to the dryer outlet?
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Rent a generator.
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Any ideas to get some use out of the welder?
Ok, so your looking for creative thinkers to come up with a use for your welder... here are some "creative" thoughts:

1. Put it in the living room and throw a table cloth over it: instant end table
2. Get a really big desk and set welder on top of desk: paper weight
3. Remove insides and put front panel on hinges: storage cabinet
4. Hook up in laundry room, throw away drier and dry clothes with welder... very carefully
5. Re-do the electrical on your Jeep to run 220v outlet. Mount welder in the back of your jeep: ultimate offroad repair tool

Hope this helps
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Ok, so your looking for creative thinkers to come up with a use for your welder... here are some "creative" thoughts:

1. Put it in the living room and throw a table cloth over it: instant end table
2. Get a really big desk and set welder on top of desk: paper weight
3. Remove insides and put front panel on hinges: storage cabinet
4. Hook up in laundry room, throw away drier and dry clothes with welder... very carefully
5. Re-do the electrical on your Jeep to run 220v outlet. Mount welder in the back of your jeep: ultimate offroad repair tool

Hope this helps
Now there's out there thinking!
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:27 PM   #13
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Where is your breaker box ?

At my old house, the breaker box was in back of the house. we just ran a stub right on the bottom of the box for 220 and plugged in there.

Otherwise, even though you're gonna have a new garage it wouldn' t hurt to run a 220 line out to your current garage, permanent. Once it's in, it'll always come in handy at some time.
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Noise, buddy, I have 220 in several places in my shop. Send it out here and you can live vicariously through my horrible lack of welding skillz.
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You guys are awsome! Keep the ideas poring in. Really suprised nobodys suggested using it for a flower planter.
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All the metal in it would rust and rust is bad for plants.
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All the metal in it would rust and rust is bad for plants.
Good point
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take the internals out. turn welder chassis into scooter. use internals to power electric fence. build electric fence around a track to race ur scooter/welder on. when u lose control.....it will be funny. for me. so please videotape as well
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take the internals out. turn welder chassis into scooter. use internals to power electric fence. build electric fence around a track to race ur scooter/welder on. when u lose control.....it will be funny. for me. so please videotape as well
Now that is a great idea. Might have to let the rugrat test it out though.
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take the internals out. turn welder chassis into scooter. use internals to power electric fence. build electric fence around a track to race ur scooter/welder on. when u lose control.....it will be funny. for me. so please videotape as well
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Now that is a great idea. Might have to let the rugrat test it out though.
Better yet, let the whitebuffalo try it out for a few laps first, you know, give credit where credit is due, it'll be even funnier on YouTube that way!
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Just plug it into 2 - 110 outlets.

110 + 110 = 220

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Thanks for all the comments folks but I went ahead and took bernm8r's advise

Very WT but.....


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Just plug it into 2 - 110 outlets.

110 + 110 = 220

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You know you're not supposed to look directly at the light when someone is welding. Your high school shop teacher is going to be so dissappointed.
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yeah at least 60 feet back or with a helmet, even if u have ur eyes closed it can burn em, if ur close
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Noise, I would be very careful with that set up. I have seen houses burn down from a table lamp, when the 20 ft ext cord got too hot.
My suggestions,

1.Sell it to me for shipping.
2.Run 220 like you know you want too. (in you house now and then again when you build the garage.
3. Buy a generator, you never know when one would come in handy
4. Be like scout, park your Jeep in the Kitchen. Remove the stove and use that outlet.

Thats all I have for now.
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Noise just run the 22o and then you will have 220 in both spots for welding then the welder is more versital. I'm no construction guy but that should no be to difficult.
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1. A dryer outlet is rated for 30A its normally run on 10ga wire. The breaker will not trip until the rated amperage it reached.
2. 12ga wire is rated for 20A max, no matter what the voltage is.
3. Yellow romex is 12ga wire.
4. all splices should be in a box rated for splicing, with a cover.
5. A 20amp appliance plugged into a 30amp outlet would in theory overheat/burn-up before the breaker trips.
6. A long cord 40' as you mentioned would be just fine as long as its rated for the amperage and weather/environment its in.
7. The most important is: YOU CANNOT INSTALL A LARGER BREAKER ON AN EXISTING CIRCUIT AND EXPECT TO HOLD THE NEW AMPERAGE. THIS WILL BE A FIRE HAZZARD.

Also, romex is not an extension cord.


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