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Old 09-09-2008, 06:43 PM   #1
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Incredibly powerful, long before the end, and then there are no words to describe it.

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I can't agree enough. People want to see numbers and slogans not real faces. There are real people making real differences all over the world and they deserve our full support. We cannot forget that they are our friends/family and not just some political ploy to continue perceived power.
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That is a great video! As a military member it is amazing to hear the political views of those that have never served.
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Wow....

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Was it really that moving? It's simply a political ad supporting McSame.
It's possible to admit invading Iraq was a mistake while still supporting the troops.
We can nationbuild anywhere but I'm more concerned with Bin Laden.
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I saw that on a local Pro 2A forum. Definitely a good video.
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Im going to post it on the other forums i visit
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Was it really that moving?
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There are pretty much two types of people in this country, those who contribute and those who take, McCain is a contributor, Obama and his like are takers. I have less respect for those who have not served but who are capable of serving. Taking 4 or 6 years of your life and signing that contract that says 'send me where you need me' with no restrictions takes something. Some have it, some don't. I don't want someone who does not have it running the country, they may talk the talk but have never walked the walk or put it on the line.
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Was it really that moving? It's simply a political ad supporting McSame.
It's possible to admit invading Iraq was a mistake while still supporting the troops.
We can nationbuild anywhere but I'm more concerned with Bin Laden.
I took a while to respond to this because... I had to think about your comment for a while and... Well, frankly I don't know you. So, what I'm about to say isn't a direct attack at you. But I can tell from your "McSame" comment that you must be an Obama supporter. I think that's great.

It's your right to support anyone you wish, because you see, you have that freedom. A freedom you would have never had, had it not been for the soldiers (like John McCain) that have defended it throughout this nations history.

tiny and I have discussed this. She tells me of the other forums she is on and I have read a few things myself. Now, I'm NOT a big political activist. I vote just as every other American should. And before the arguing starts, I've NEVER voted a straight ticket. I vote for the one who I believe has the tools to do the job.

Here's what I see. I see the Obama supporters lobbing all kinds of attacks at McCain's campaign. And until he is pushed he doesn't lob back. Hell, the man congratulated Senator Obama for winning the Democratic Nomination while Obama was too busy rallying his troops in yet another volley of McCain attacks. And when Obama is ahead in the polls, things are great and it's about to be a "Great Victory" for the American people. But when McCain inches forward they cry and bitch and claim that the polls are wrong.

McCain has his faults just like everyone else. But when Obama slips up his supporters say "it's just a slip up", but when McCain slips up the Democrat's jaws drop and they gasp and can't believe he just said that.

Hell, it's amazing to watch. It honestly reminds me of a group of religious extremists blindly following a being and turning their words around to fit their agenda. It's sad really. And if Obama wins the Presidency and starts screwing up (just like 3 out of the last 4 have) they are gonna be the first ones to bitch.

Also...

As a disabled veteran of the Iraq war and a former combat medic who treated (on more than one occasion) the same wounds the young man in the video was inflicted, I can't help but be moved. You will never know the kind of bond military members share through the good and the bad unless you actually serve. To question whether or not the video was moving you first need to place yourself in the position of being a very young man and losing a limb and having to live the rest of your life somewhat less productively as you did before.

So yes, if you're a compassionate human with any feelings at all, the video was moving. It doesn't even have to be political, the young man isn't whole and EVERY American (Obama included) should acknowledge his (and others like him) sacrifice.
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VERY WELL PUT CCAIN, and VERY moving video..
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I'm sorry I just saw it as a political ad supporting McCain and attacking Obama like most political threads on here. I realize that most everyone on here supports McCain and that's fine. I suppose anything could be moving if you slapped Lee Greenwood's song on it. I actually like McCain but feel that serving in the military many years ago does not automatically make you qualified to be POTUS. Obama is bieng attacked relentlessly as well and is the underdog all the way till the end regardless of the polls might say but if McCain wins I would not mind so much because I do like him and consider anything an improvement and not really the "same".
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.... I actually like McCain but feel that serving in the military many years ago does not automatically make you qualified to be POTUS.......
You are right it does not, it does not even come into play:

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So if anything what does McCain's service bring to the table? For me I would say that when he go's and visits the troops, he is really there to see the troops vs just another PR stunt. He knows what our people area dealing with, he has walked in their shoe's. When he would have to send troops some where I would like to think he fully understands what he is doing. To me that is better than some one who has not. So yes it give's him some points in my book.
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Saw that video a few days ago. Very moving indeed.


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I actually like McCain but feel that serving in the military many years ago does not automatically make you qualified to be POTUS.
Nobody has ever said it does.
However, McCain's military service does give him some serious experience points on obama. McCain knows better than anyone in this race what it means to send young men and women into a war. He knows from first hand experience what risks they face, both physical and psychological.
He was also commanding officer of a Naval squadron which gives him executive experience.
His military service, while not an automatic qualification for POTUS, is still a far superior qualification than street organizer for an organization repeatedly indicted for vote fixing.

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How is obama the underdog?
You've really got me stumped here. There are more registered democrats in America. He's got three of the top four network news organizations openly campaigning for him. Ha has most Hollyweird salivating over him. His campaign has raised about three times as much money as McCain. His party is in control of the House and Senate, and the republicans are in disfavor this year.
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but if McCain wins I would not mind so much because I do like him and consider anything an improvement and not really the "same".
If you do like him then why use the slur?
Of course McCain isn't the same as Bush. The reason he was so disliked by his own party, and the reason he needed a conservative on the ticket is because he butts heads with the Bush administration and the party on a regular basis.
That McSame nonsense was started by obama during the primaries and it's going to come back and bite him.
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I guess the McSame comment was out of line. I'm sorry. It's the same as some people refering to Obama as Osama and emphasing his name Hussein.
I was refering to him agreeing with George Bush 90 percent of the time
and saying we should stay in Iraq for 100 years if need be. But I do actually think he would work across the ailse and he even said in his speech the other night that he'd have members of both parties on his staff.
I do like him and find it funny that a lot of repubs hated him a while back but now he's their lord and savior. I guess y'all would consider it the lesser of two evils.

When I said Obama is the underdog I meant simply because of his race, thinking it will bring republicans out in force. This is not the "race card" but simply a reality. Being that McCain is not is not as far right as some republican candidates I was thinking that some democrats would vote for him. Heck I'd vote for him if Obama was not running.
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i got nothin to ad, great video, and great statements, especially from cain, richp and skeeter.

all i got to say is, "if you put lipstick on a pig, its still a pig" barack hussein obama.
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I'm sorry I just saw it as a political ad supporting McCain and attacking Obama like most political threads on here. I realize that most everyone on here supports McCain and that's fine. I suppose anything could be moving if you slapped Lee Greenwood's song on it. I actually like McCain but feel that serving in the military many years ago does not automatically make you qualified to be POTUS. Obama is bieng attacked relentlessly as well and is the underdog all the way till the end regardless of the polls might say but if McCain wins I would not mind so much because I do like him and consider anything an improvement and not really the "same".
Obama attacked relentlessly? You are kidding right? What SERIOUS questions has he REALLY been asked? Obama can flick off America on camera, have it cut out without him even asking, and the news will show McCain stepping on an Ant by accident and call him a murderer and war mongrel by waging war with all of the Ants in America instead.

The Military does not make him qualified to be the president. His POW experience simply shows his integrity and moral fiber, as well as Commander and Chief experience. Its simply one of many reasons McCain is ready to lead the free world.

If you are going to ask how being in the military qualifies him for the president, than I must ask you this. How does being a community organizer, being in the senate for ~140 days, voting "Present" (Not yes/no) 130 times, never passing any real legislation, and running a campaign, qualify someone for being president? If that is the criteria, than half of America is more qualified to be president than Obama. That is not just some Rush Limbaugh "key points" or whatever they call them, it is fact. He has never done anything that could even remotely prepare him to lead a country.

WARNING, THE FOLLOWING IS STRICTLY MY STRONG OPINIONS, AND NOT SPEAKING ON THE BEHALF OF ANYONE ELSE BUT MYSELF:

I don't think the issue here is that this entire board is conservative or Republican. It very may be that way, but I highly doubt it. I think what you are seeing, is a group of people that not only take time out of their day to research the best things for their Jeeps on the internet, but to actually take the time and get informed on political issues as well. Honestly, I don't see how ANYONE that takes the time to study both candidates backgrounds could even remotely think Obama is ready to lead the free world, period. Personally, and again this is purely my personal opinion, I think most people that truly support Obama either A. Are voting by pure emotion and nothing else, B. Just watch the nightly/morning news and think everything they see and hear is fact, thus Obama is nothing short of a God and McCain Satan, or C. Are the type of people that blindly vote democrat and don't really pay attention to the backgrounds of the candidates, and simply assume the "party" knows whats best.

I am sure I am going to catch a few hand grenades for this post, but I am really getting sick of tired of all the BS on TV etc., and really wish people would take 1 hour out of their oh so busy and important lives, and do the research necessary to make the best choice for their countries future. If they still think he is the best choice for America, great, vote for who you feel is best, but don't blindly vote for somebody because of a bumper sticker, or because the entertainment on TV says so.
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"If you are going to ask how being in the military qualifies him for the president, than I must ask you this. How does being a community organizer, being in the senate for ~140 days, voting "Present" (Not yes/no) 130 times, never passing any real legislation, and running a campaign, qualify someone for being president? If that is the criteria, than half of America is more qualified to be president than Obama. That is not just some Rush Limbaugh "key points" or whatever they call them, it is fact. He has never done anything that could even remotely prepare him to lead a country."

that along with not putting his right hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance, saying wearing an american flag pin "is unamerican".

hes another john kerry with less experience.
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I look at the McCain campaign and I see all kinds of red flags - from campaign managers (Rick Davis - google the interview he gave the Washington Post) saying the campaign isn't about issues, it's about "narratives" and stories to political ads which so grossly mis-state Obama's policies as to be flat-out lies (Obama wants to teach kindergartens explicit sex education, implying that Obama is behind all the wild-ass internet rumors about Sarah Palin) to a campaign staff of some major lobbyists and my final pet peeve: economics.

I don't want to see another Republican administration using the same trickle-down policies that help the top 5% of US incomes reap (in percentage as well as actual dollars) the bulk of the benefit of tax cuts while the middle and bottom quintiles lost ground - and that was in a relatively strong economy, not the dicey, edge-of-recession or just-over-the-recession cliff, one we have now.

Among McCain's chief economic strategists are several people from the Heritage Institute, the American Enterprise Institute, the IMF and a bunch of Bush appointees - so that is exactly what we will get, what we've had.

Obama wouldn't have been my choice (although Hillary would have been a candidate I'd be even less fond of), but he's got some interesting economics advisers and an economic plan that stops some of the disastrous borrowing and debt spending of the GW Bush years. The charge of "tax and spend Democrats" is less of a problem to me that the current Republican "borrow and indebt our grandchildren" plan. This year's deficit if $430+ billion (not counting the off-budget war). We can NOT keep doing this.
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I look at the McCain campaign and I see all kinds of red flags - from campaign managers (Rick Davis - google the interview he gave the Washington Post) saying the campaign isn't about issues, it's about "narratives" and stories to political ads which so grossly mis-state Obama's policies as to be flat-out lies (Obama wants to teach kindergartens explicit sex education, implying that Obama is behind all the wild-ass internet rumors about Sarah Palin) to a campaign staff of some major lobbyists and my final pet peeve: economics.
That is exactly what I am talking about. What has been on the news all day long today? ABC/NBC/CNN/MSNBC etc. making that same statement. Fact of the matter is, Obama supported/signed a bill (Illinois bill 0099) that was re-written/changed from grades 6-12 to K-12. I don't care what anyone says, there is NOTHING that a kindergartner needs to know in the form of sex education, short of "Don't let anyone touch you there."

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I don't want to see another Republican administration using the same trickle-down policies that help the top 5% of US incomes reap (in percentage as well as actual dollars) the bulk of the benefit of tax cuts while the middle and bottom quintiles lost ground - and that was in a relatively strong economy, not the dicey, edge-of-recession or just-over-the-recession cliff, one we have now.

Among McCain's chief economic strategists are several people from the Heritage Institute, the American Enterprise Institute, the IMF and a bunch of Bush appointees - so that is exactly what we will get, what we've had.

Obama wouldn't have been my choice (although Hillary would have been a candidate I'd be even less fond of), but he's got some interesting economics advisers and an economic plan that stops some of the disastrous borrowing and debt spending of the GW Bush years. The charge of "tax and spend Democrats" is less of a problem to me that the current Republican "borrow and indebt our grandchildren" plan. This year's deficit if $430+ billion (not counting the off-budget war). We can NOT keep doing this.
I am not even touching that one. All I can say, is you should really look into who has done what, and what part does what. Not just a news article or two, but look at legislation and cause/effect. If you have, and you still feel that way, as I said before, more power to you. Don't mis-read what I have said. I am not trying to force anyone to believe in conservative values. Believe what you feel is right, and vote for the person that best acts on the same beliefs, but for the love of god do your research. I just don't see how anyone can even attempt to argue someones qualifications for presidency of the USA if they couldn't even get a security clearance to fix computers at Northrop Grumman.
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You know... I didn't intend for this to turn into be a big political debate when I first posted it. I just saw a video that touched me deeply and felt I should share it.

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