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Old 01-10-2009, 08:49 AM   #1
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does this bother anyone else?

is anyone currently aware of the proposed drilling prospect in the Catskill and Appalachian area! several large Texas company's along with several other gas company's are buying up millions of acres in WV,VA,pa,NY,and Ohio. the Marcellus shale formation lies under all of these states and due to recent gas prices has energy tycoons looking for alternatives, well it is believed that an extremely large amount of natural gas lies beneath the shale. the extraction of this gas would prove to have a very harsh impact on the land and wild habitat!!

and to the extreme opposite north, the proposed pebble mine to be built in Bristol bay area would destroy unbelievable amounts of fish and wildlife habitat as it would be the worlds largest open pit mine, witch would kill one of our worlds most pristine wildlife habitats!

anybody else hear of this?

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Doesn't bother me a bit.

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Nor me. Whatever they can do to make my fuel cheaper is fine with me.
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I'd have to read more about it. I see far too many people get worked up without all the information, especially on message boards and blogs. Misinformation becomes viral and fiction becomes fact. Let's see some real sources.
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I agree, I think they should explore EVERY oppurtunity to get of the teat of the middle east oil. What documentation supports also this destruction of natural habitat? I don't want our forests or water or trees f-upped either. I don't think the great Alaska pipeline has caused the end of the world and has done okay for several decades....
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For the last couple of years they have been developing the Fayetteville shale play right here in White County Arkansas. While our roads have suffered from the heavy traffic of heavy equipment and water trucks there has been very little impact from the drilling and establishment of pipelines and wells as far as any lasting environmental issues. Even the roads issue is being addressed by the companies doing the drilling, as they all help repair the damage done to the roads. The EPA is very strict on these companies as far as that goes and the economic impact here has been tremendous. It is expected that the town I live in will double in population over the next 5 years. (currently about 25,000) They are building hotels and houses as fast as they can. People are moving into the area and new businesses are coming in to support the drilling and extraction of the gas. This in turn is bringing in more restaurants, retailers and other industry as well, not to mention the income generated to the people who have wells on their leases.

I don't know about the pit mining business, but the gas production in our area has been a boon for our economy.
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is anyone currently aware of the proposed drilling prospect in the Catskill and Appalachian area! several large Texas company's along with several other gas company's are buying up millions of acres in WV,VA,pa,NY,and Ohio. the Marcellus shale formation lies under all of these states and due to recent gas prices has energy tycoons looking for alternatives, well it is believed that an extremely large amount of natural gas lies beneath the shale. the extraction of this gas would prove to have a very harsh impact on the land and wild habitat!!

and to the extreme opposite north, the proposed pebble mine to be built in Bristol bay area would destroy unbelievable amounts of fish and wildlife habitat as it would be the worlds largest open pit mine, witch would kill one of our worlds most pristine wildlife habitats!

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In my area, northeastern PA, what they are doing is leasing the rights to the gas/minerals. These leases have put huge amounts of money back into the area. Some paid as high as $2500/acre. Its made it possible for more than a few people i know be able to keep their house or farm. Even though i would hate to see our rural area ruined i think it is good.
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the though of the open pit mine in alaska bothers me the most, i have followd this issue over the last year, the pit will destroy, in the process of it creation, the streams that hold the worlds largest sockeye salmon run ( we harvest over 40% of our salmon from bristol bay) the company can hardly think of the words during an interview to come back to how hard this mine would impact the land. they can't say it will be ok, alaska is too pristine to destroy period. im not some global warming hippy, all that stuff is a load, but look at what happened from other open pit mines. this one would create a damn that would dwarf the three gourges damn in china. there is so much i could say on the subject, but apparently my words would fall on def ears.
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Nor me. Whatever they can do to make my fuel cheaper is fine with me.
its that kind of thinking that can make people angry....
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They don't fall on deaf ears, yj, but I want real sources and not word of mouth. I want all the emotion removed so I can read only facts. I want to hear from scientists and researchers. I understand this is something you are passionate about and I applaud that. Back up your words so I can see where you're drawing your opinions from.
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I'd have to read more about it. I see far too many people get worked up without all the information, especially on message boards and blogs. Misinformation becomes viral and fiction becomes fact. Let's see some real sources.
Pebble Mine Threatens Worlds Greatest Salmon Rivers
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also i am big into trout unlimited an organization that without, big corporations and buisnessman would have destroyed cold stream rivers and streams, and all water alike
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I agree, I think they should explore EVERY oppurtunity to get of the teat of the middle east oil. What documentation supports also this destruction of natural habitat? I don't want our forests or water or trees f-upped either. I don't think the great Alaska pipeline has caused the end of the world and has done okay for several decades....
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In my area, northeastern PA, what they are doing is leasing the rights to the gas/minerals. These leases have put huge amounts of money back into the area. Some paid as high as $2500/acre. Its made it possible for more than a few people i know be able to keep their house or farm. Even though i would hate to see our rural area ruined i think it is good.
im a little suprised by some of you and a bit dissapointed in alot! there are lots of good opinions about the economy and stories of how it can help, but just because we mess some things up and destroy others to fix those problems doesn't make it right, right is a matter of opinion, and even though the gas is there doesn't mean that it should be extracted, at least to a degree of what is talked about. even though there are organizations in place to monitor these company's, not everything is found out about, and even a mistake can have a high cost. i imagined the business minded would have said some comments but i would think a level of environmental concern from everyone.

i'll go dig up some info on some environmental disasters and post it later on!
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Is Bristol Bay the only one getting attention? I saw other states listed in your initial post. Strip and Pit mining have always been a blight. There are plenty of places with them that have been destroyed. Should we have maybe have looked into this before those industries moved on to more "attractive" areas?
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Is Bristol Bay the only one getting attention? I saw other states listed in your initial post. Strip and Pit mining have always been a blight. There are plenty of places with them that have been destroyed. Should we have maybe have looked into this before those industries moved on to more "attractive" areas?
i am focusing more on Bristol bay now because since the beginning of the year it is in its permit phase, attempting to get land usage and dump permits! all these companys buying up land in the lower 48 are prospecting and i doubt massive production would happen anytime soon.

and your right, open pit mining is horribly destructive and now is the time to deal with pebble mine. there are lots of ads and what not being played over in Alaska to oppose the mine in attempt for them to not get a permit!



listen to what the mine company representative says at the end, they know what the impact will be.
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Should we have maybe have looked into this before those industries moved on to more "attractive" areas?
yes but no one can build up enough to fight it when its only killing the desert, and i say that with a little more respect for the land than it sounds.
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Let me ask you something and I'm only doing this because I can see you want to be heard so I'll play devil's advocate. What products are these mines producing other than NG? Are these products that are luxury or can be given up? I read some of your links, but it is a lot of information to wade through with a number of links to follow in them. Are there other ways to extract the gas and these materials so as to not impact the environment?
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yes but no one can build up enough to fight it when its only killing the desert, and i say that with a little more respect for the land than it sounds.
I completely understand what you're saying and that there is no disrespect meant. You are correct, many people don't understand how amazing the desert actually is. Until I spent time in the desert I never saw it as anything but sand and lizards.
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Let me ask you something and I'm only doing this because I can see you want to be heard so I'll play devil's advocate. What products are these mines producing other than NG? Are these products that are luxury or can be given up? I read some of your links, but it is a lot of information to wade through with a number of links to follow in them. Are there other ways to extract the gas and these materials so as to not impact the environment?
the open pit mine in bristol bay is for gold copper and aluminum (i think on the aluminum) the natural gas is under the marcellus shale formation, or thought to be, both of those are facts in newspapers, magazines, and NOT wikipedia

and as far as luxury and necessity have to do with it, is almost an un answerable question. would you destroy the absolute last tree on the plannet for a chair? would you drill in the worlds last known natural environment to get the oil, in the end this is for profit, and anyone who says otherwise should have a recording from the companys ceo saying otherwise!
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im a little suprised by some of you and a bit dissapointed in alot! there are lots of good opinions about the economy and stories of how it can help, but just because we mess some things up and destroy others to fix those problems doesn't make it right, right is a matter of opinion, and even though the gas is there doesn't mean that it should be extracted, at least to a degree of what is talked about. even though there are organizations in place to monitor these company's, not everything is found out about, and even a mistake can have a high cost. i imagined the business minded would have said some comments but i would think a level of environmental concern from everyone.

i'll go dig up some info on some environmental disasters and post it later on!
I am of the opinion that we rely too much on other countries for energy. I am aware that only 15% of our natural gas is foreign (according to NaturalGas.org) but I think that we could provide more jobs and help our economy better by doing it ourselves.
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I am of the opinion that we rely too much on other countries for energy. I am aware that only 15% of our natural gas is foreign (according to NaturalGas.org) but I think that we could provide more jobs and help our economy better by doing it ourselves.
economy will play a big role in all this, but the bottom line is the fact that we are causing irreversible damage to an already endagered ecosystem, sure there is gold or gas or oil or copper and so on in these places, but at what point can you say no, if we didn't out sourse production of clothes, tools, toys than we would have a great economy, there are other ways out of this slum than diggin up new problems
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Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that these new NG sites will fix our economy. Its too far gone for that, but it would help out somewhat.

As for the proposed Pebble mine I am in agreement with you. I don't oppose the mining but I do oppose the location.
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the open pit mine in bristol bay is for gold copper and aluminum (i think on the aluminum) the natural gas is under the marcellus shale formation, or thought to be, both of those are facts in newspapers, magazines, and NOT wikipedia

and as far as luxury and necessity have to do with it, is almost an un answerable question. would you destroy the absolute last tree on the plannet for a chair? would you drill in the worlds last known natural environment to get the oil, in the end this is for profit, and anyone who says otherwise should have a recording from the companys ceo saying otherwise!
Problem is, you're thinking small. I'm one person, and no I would not. But there are a number of people who would toss that tree on the fire just to watch it burn. Luxury and necessity have lots to do with it when people are losing their houses and going hungry. I'm not arguing for or against it, I'm simply adding a different perspective.
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hopefully it will be rejected, but with the shape of the economy the promise of jobs will undoubtedly give favor to the mining company
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You never know. Write congress. Be active in getting it rejected. I lived in an area that they decided our house was going to be condemned along with hundreds of others for high tension power lines. We fought it. Took two years, but we won. It does happen and grassroots does work.

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If we didn't outsource production of clothes, tools and toys we would require even more energy to produce them ourselves...

I've spent most of my life listening to the greenies whining and crying about about how the universe is going to implode if such n such a project gets the go ahead. Strangely, after they're done with their law suits. Thier scare tactic ad campaigns and their whining, crying and gnashing of teeth. When the project finally gets going, the world doesn't stop spinning, the sun doesn't stop shining and dogs and cats don't start sleeping with each other.
After hearing their worst case scenario crap for thirty some years and then watching it not happen. After traveling all over north America and not seeing the vast wastelands that must be there if all the wringing of hands were true. It gets a wee bit difficult to get the old giveOcrapOmeter to budge off minimal.
Sorry if that disappoints you but meh, oh well.
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Problem is, you're thinking small. I'm one person, and no I would not. But there are a number of people who would toss that tree on the fire just to watch it burn. Luxury and necessity have lots to do with it when people are losing their houses and going hungry. I'm not arguing for or against it, I'm simply adding a different perspective.
completely understand, i could say a bunch of dumb heartless things about how its our fault and stuff like that, but really, we create these problems for ourselves, looking to this as a problem solution is not ethical or right, this should not even be a possibility. to gain 40 years of profit by a mine, then an eternity of clean up and pollution, sorry not gonna buy it, damage done and now the natural fishery that was already in existence that gave plenty to the locals, is gone. accelerating the life of the land to maximize a doller isn't worth it when the earth creates the jobs for an eternity already, the economy is already there, dont' need to change it!

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