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Old 06-12-2013, 04:56 AM   #31
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started using vapor for life products couple years ago. really like their customer service, sometimes a battery would go bad and they replace at no charge. lots of variety in flavor and concentration. I did some research on propylene glycol, because a few friends had an allergic reaction when they tried my e-cig, and It can cause cancer in lab tests, so now I buy only vegetable glycerin products. just a heads up.

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^ I'd like to read about these lab test.

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We do prefer to sell the vegetable glycerin due to this fact. However, I think that propelene glycol only causes cancer when consumed in maps quantities for several years.

The vegetable glycol is a great product, but it can clog atomizers.
Also, most oils are a blend of PG/VG, but you can find 100% VG.
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I just started noticing propylene glycol listed as an ingredient in things like the deodorant I use and a few others I can't recall and decided I wasn't going to inhale it anymore. I'm sure u need heavy doses for a long time to cause cancer, but I never found research saying the same thing about vegetable glycerin, so I switched.
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I do agree, and research has found that many more people have some negative reactions to the PG than VG users.

Personally, I can tell the difference in a higher PG concentration in my e-liquids. When I vape a more concentrated VG blend, it feels smoother and I don't get any sort of feeling in my throat.

However, the more PG that is in the blend, the more it "hits" and I feel it. Kind of like smoking a cigar, but not as harsh.
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started using vapor for life products couple years ago. really like their customer service, sometimes a battery would go bad and they replace at no charge. lots of variety in flavor and concentration. I did some research on propylene glycol, because a few friends had an allergic reaction when they tried my e-cig, and It can cause cancer in lab tests, so now I buy only vegetable glycerin products. just a heads up.
Are those on vapor for life 100% vegetable glycerin? I didn't see anything on the website that indicated that.
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I'm not sure if they are 100% vg. but I can kinda feel it when it is pg like someone else just posted. next time I order anything from them I will call and ask some questions.
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:17 AM   #39
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On a side note I haven't been getting much of a draw on it lately. How often would an atomizer need to be replaced?
You can clean "atty's"; look on the e-cigaretteforum or just google 'How to clean Joye Attomizer' or such;

With the EgoT (same as I have) you can pop the wick out to expose the coil..use a small screwdriver, chopstick or whatever to gently, but firmly, lever the piercing stem (the pointy piece you see when you pull off the tank)...the whole assembly will pop out. I'll bet you'll see build up on the coil.

I have heard some will soak the atty in vodka, ethyl alchohol, or ??, but water will work....drop it into a glass for an hour or so, then gently rinse well...you should see the coil look clean. DON'T try to rub, brush or scrape the coil...it'll break and then the atty is done. They will burn out sooner or later...I have had some last a couple months, and some pop in a week....definitely a production quality control issue....I always keep a couple extras in my kit.

Would like to get into the rebuildable kind like the other poster showed...
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Notdeankane: call up our store and ask for a rebuildable bottom feed atomizer/clearomizer.

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Its in Cape Coral.
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Notdeankane: call up our store and ask for a rebuildable bottom feed atomizer/clearomizer.

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Its in Cape Coral.
thanks! I'll check it out!
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Old 09-03-2013, 10:59 PM   #42
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I am a regular e-cig 'vaper' and enjoy it.

I was a pack a day Marlboro Light smoker....I still have a few 'analogs' now and then, but primarily vape. It is more convenient, I don't reek afterwards and is a lot cheaper than tobacco.

I am not using a PV (personal vaporizer) to try to quit; I enjoy using nicotine, especially with aged or frosty beverages......

I feel that it is healthier. Vaping eliminates all the harmful smoke constituents such as CO, tar and other byproducts of combustion.

The fluids used are the same found in food products and asthma inhalers (propylene glycol and/or vegetable based glycol); the only question is whether the nicotine content is harmful. From a health standpoint, IMHO, the only thing I think is harmful is the physiological effect of the nicotine, (i.e. increased BP).

I started with a Joye brand 510 kit; it worked ok, but the batteries don't last too long, nor do the fluid cartridges. I recently changed to an E-Go Tank style..it lasts all day without refilling or recharging. Only bad thing about this particular model is that the atomizers (the heating element part) are a crapshoot...sometimes they last a couple months, and I have had ones that burn out in a week....and at $10 each, it gets a little annoying...although still nets out cheaper than buying regular cigs.

The fluids are available in many different flavors and nic. concentrations: Although I was never a menthol smoker, I like to mix a little menthol or mint flavored e-juice into the 'marlboro' flavored juice...gives it a little mellower taste.

On the whole I spend about $30-$40 every other month for a couple extra atomizers and refill juice....which is about what I would spend in a week on cigarettes.

The only big expense is the initial purchase of a setup...
I was gonna start a new thread on this to see if there were any vapers on the forum. Glad I found this.
I just started vaping 2 wks ago after s buddy of mine and my bro in law, both 2 packs a day smokers went to no packs a day immediately. I was a pack every 3 days. I'm already done with analogs (tobacco flavor) and down to 4 mg nicotine. Even when I get to zero I'll keep on it because it's relaxing to puff (like those who puff cigars and pipes, and I recommend vaping to them also). I never liked menthold either, but in vaping it's not harsh. Just gives a good solid hit. I use pro tank 2 for complete ability to rebuild and Evoc for ability to change wick head. 3 dollars a head where I get them, but head lasts 2-4 wks vs 6 bucks a pack every 3 days.
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:07 PM   #43
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I was thinking of trying a disposable one first before jumping in... I'm just worried that a disposable type vs rechargeable/reuable may be too different to make a proper judgement call...
My personal experience. I tried disposable as well as rechargeable look alikes. Just made me want a real one. The vapers are different. Haven't wanted a real one since. Tried to the day after I started vaping, smoked half and threw it down.
I will say this, alot has to do with mind set. My bro in law smoked 2 packs a day, his wife smoked a pack and a half every 3 days. They're both vaping. Bro in law has not smoked since starting. The wife goes back and forth.
How bad do you want to quit the real thing?

Also, like Jeeps and offroading, there's alot of mods. It becomes a new addiction/hobby of things to buy lol. Try to control yourself lol.
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:15 PM   #44
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I just started noticing propylene glycol listed as an ingredient in things like the deodorant I use and a few others I can't recall and decided I wasn't going to inhale it anymore. I'm sure u need heavy doses for a long time to cause cancer, but I never found research saying the same thing about vegetable glycerin, so I switched.
Both are regulated by the FDA. The mixes in vapors are not, because they're non tobacco. You would be surprised at what PG is in. It's in the majority of pharmaceuticals, and many foods. I only buy my juices from local shops that mix on sight with USA ordered PG and VG. Never gas station premixed juices. As an example. If you take 2 ibuprofen every day for 20 years, your liver is gonna fail from it. The PG is vapor form, not solid state that your liver is gonna keep processing incessantly. Plus, to much milk, and working night shifts causes cancer.
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I do agree, and research has found that many more people have some negative reactions to the PG than VG users.

Personally, I can tell the difference in a higher PG concentration in my e-liquids. When I vape a more concentrated VG blend, it feels smoother and I don't get any sort of feeling in my throat.

However, the more PG that is in the blend, the more it "hits" and I feel it. Kind of like smoking a cigar, but not as harsh.
PG is what gives the thickness. That id why the difference.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:47 PM   #46
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I buy the disposable ones from time to time. With me, I've found that they don't last but a day or two because I'm always puffing on it.
I've never smoked cigarettes but am more a casual cigar smoker so I like the small disposable Swisher Sweet ones. I've always wanted to try the big Cohita Cigar by E-Puffer.
I've heard good things about it and it lasts a good while.
It is pretty cool to be able to vape in the house without the wife griping.
They just banned E-Cigs at my job.
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Well, thank you everyone for your feedback, I've purchased a USB rechargable vaper version about a month and half ago, I try to use it when I'm out in the jeep but at home I tend to go back to my old cig habit unfortunately but I keep reminding myself to use the e-cig more often so I can ditch my cig habit.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:57 PM   #48
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Just got a Vapor Zeus from vapor4life.com. Hits way better than the small cigarette sized e cigs. This one is the size of a cigar. A much more satisfying vape when you're drinking alcohol.

Found out they only have four flavors of juice or e-liquid that is all vegetable glycerin and no propylene glycol. And none of them are what I use(menthol).
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Well, thank you everyone for your feedback, I've purchased a USB rechargable vaper version about a month and half ago, I try to use it when I'm out in the jeep but at home I tend to go back to my old cig habit unfortunately but I keep reminding myself to use the e-cig more often so I can ditch my cig habit.
It is much cheaper. $16-$18 for 30 ml juice (i love backwoods brew malty toffee) lasts me about 6 weeks. Maybe $11 for a 5 pack of clearomizers, each one lasts 2-3 weeks. A lot better than $6 a pop for cigs.

Being able to smoke (guilt-free) in my 2013 JKU is a bonus.
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:11 PM   #50
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Did a little research on best rated e-liquids and found copper creek to be popular. Ordered their most recommended, house blend. and also some menthol. I think it was like 9 dollars for 15ml. When ordering you can select all VG or select what proportion of VG and PG(20/80, 40,60). Can't wait to try it out, the flavors from vapor4life just aren't cutting it, but I love the vapor Zeus I got from them.
What flavor and brand does everyone use?
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:24 PM   #51
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Got my e-liquid from Copper Creek. The flavor is better than anything I,ve tried. I think this will help me get off cigarette's completely. Ordered 6 more flavors already.
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Just got a Vamo V3 and love it. Variable watt and variable voltage with LCD readout. Would lije a provair but not for 200 bucks
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how much was the vamo v3? will have to check it out.
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95 at my locsl shop. Seen them online for 50. But some online didn't come with charger
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I didn't use an ecig, but I quit a few years ago and the money I set aside from my pack a day+ smoking, paid for my Jeep I smoked for 22yrs, and have tried a bunch of times to quit...

Now I spend more on the Jeep than I did smoking, lol
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My vapor4life Vapor Zeus. This is the dual mode battery. Currently vaping buttered rum e-liquid from copper creek. also their creme de menthe, apple cider, and coffee.
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Gosh those things are huge! Kanaka, why not just carry a hookah around with you and save yourself the trouble?

I like my eGo C upgrade with a Kanger BCC.

Backwoods brew have some great ejuice (mmmm, malty toffee!), but I'm thinking about quitting cold turkey after this bottle is finished.
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So I've eavesdropped here for a bit, and have learned too much, I think.

I want one
I want it to be as portable as possible (as in ease of recharge / longevity of charge)
I want it to be well built and as serviceable as possible

I, too, live in the sticks where stores for this stuff do not exist. We have disposables and fancy disposables in the gas station - I have stayed away so as not to taint my opinion on vaping in general, cause nuthin worth injesting comes from a filling station.

Where should I look / what should I be looking at? Where do you isolated guys resupply from? I'd rather learn a tip or two before buying into a POS setup.

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