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Old 06-10-2013, 02:25 PM   #1
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I know smoking is bad for you, so lets not even go there. I'm trying to get feedback on e-cig's. May not be a healthy choice but I'm thinking of switching from regular smokes to e-cig's instead. Opinions from those who have tried, or currently using would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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I purchased e cigs before and it helped for a while until the battery died or I had no more filters.
Same with vapors. Those products are pretty expensive.
I just quit cold turkey one day. Like 6 months ago. I have a cigarette once or twice a week but not as much as before. And with the money I saved, I was able to purchase my lift kit which I did this past weekend.

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I purchased e cigs before and it helped for a while until the battery died or I had no more filters.
Same with vapors. Those products are pretty expensive.
I just quit cold turkey one day. Like 6 months ago. I have a cigarette once or twice a week but not as much as before. And with the money I saved, I was able to purchase my lift kit which I did this past weekend.
Thank you for your opinion/feedback. Yes, I have quit before, 9 months cold turkey was the longest but since I live with my girlfriend who is a smoker, I find its almost impossible to do so which leaves me to simply reducing my habit.

This is what I'm thinking of ordering. Kinda like the usb charger portion since my stereo in my jeep has a port lol

Esmoker 510-T Electronic Cigarette Starter Kit
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I am a regular e-cig 'vaper' and enjoy it.

I was a pack a day Marlboro Light smoker....I still have a few 'analogs' now and then, but primarily vape. It is more convenient, I don't reek afterwards and is a lot cheaper than tobacco.

I am not using a PV (personal vaporizer) to try to quit; I enjoy using nicotine, especially with aged or frosty beverages......

I feel that it is healthier. Vaping eliminates all the harmful smoke constituents such as CO, tar and other byproducts of combustion.

The fluids used are the same found in food products and asthma inhalers (propylene glycol and/or vegetable based glycol); the only question is whether the nicotine content is harmful. From a health standpoint, IMHO, the only thing I think is harmful is the physiological effect of the nicotine, (i.e. increased BP).

I started with a Joye brand 510 kit; it worked ok, but the batteries don't last too long, nor do the fluid cartridges. I recently changed to an E-Go Tank style..it lasts all day without refilling or recharging. Only bad thing about this particular model is that the atomizers (the heating element part) are a crapshoot...sometimes they last a couple months, and I have had ones that burn out in a week....and at $10 each, it gets a little annoying...although still nets out cheaper than buying regular cigs.

The fluids are available in many different flavors and nic. concentrations: Although I was never a menthol smoker, I like to mix a little menthol or mint flavored e-juice into the 'marlboro' flavored juice...gives it a little mellower taste.

On the whole I spend about $30-$40 every other month for a couple extra atomizers and refill juice....which is about what I would spend in a week on cigarettes.

The only big expense is the initial purchase of a setup...
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^i kinda spend more when i use to smoke. every once in a while, a pack of cigarettes equates to a pack of cigarettes, lighter, a soda, and gum. it adds up.
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I am a regular e-cig 'vaper' and enjoy it.

I was a pack a day Marlboro Light smoker....I still have a few 'analogs' now and then, but primarily vape. It is more convenient, I don't reek afterwards and is a lot cheaper than tobacco.

I am not using a PV (personal vaporizer) to try to quit; I enjoy using nicotine, especially with aged or frosty beverages......

I feel that it is healthier. Vaping eliminates all the harmful smoke constituents such as CO, tar and other byproducts of combustion.

The fluids used are the same found in food products and asthma inhalers (propylene glycol and/or vegetable based glycol); the only question is whether the nicotine content is harmful. From a health standpoint, IMHO, the only thing I think is harmful is the physiological effect of the nicotine, (i.e. increased BP).

I started with a Joye brand 510 kit; it worked ok, but the batteries don't last too long, nor do the fluid cartridges. I recently changed to an E-Go Tank style..it lasts all day without refilling or recharging. Only bad thing about this particular model is that the atomizers (the heating element part) are a crapshoot...sometimes they last a couple months, and I have had ones that burn out in a week....and at $10 each, it gets a little annoying...although still nets out cheaper than buying regular cigs.

The fluids are available in many different flavors and nic. concentrations: Although I was never a menthol smoker, I like to mix a little menthol or mint flavored e-juice into the 'marlboro' flavored juice...gives it a little mellower taste.

On the whole I spend about $30-$40 every other month for a couple extra atomizers and refill juice....which is about what I would spend in a week on cigarettes.

The only big expense is the initial purchase of a setup...
What is your impression of the esmoker 510-T I posted above? Is this everything I need to get started? Again, thanks for the feedback. Trying to make an informed decision...
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Thank you for your opinion/feedback. Yes, I have quit before, 9 months cold turkey was the longest but since I live with my girlfriend who is a smoker, I find its almost impossible to do so which leaves me to simply reducing my habit.

This is what I'm thinking of ordering. Kinda like the usb charger portion since my stereo in my jeep has a port lol

Esmoker 510-T Electronic Cigarette Starter Kit
This looks like a re-branded Joye 510. Check out the PCC on Cignot ® this is a "Pocket Charging Case" which is essentially a storage case for 510 batteries and tips with it's own internal battery....you vape off one while the other recharges in the case...I found this a necessity with the 510s The E-go Tanks have bigger batteries, so last longer.


Yes the 510 is a good way to get started...if you like it, like a Jeep, you will start modding it !
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check out the e-cigarette forum...lots of good info there!

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There is a brand out called Blu-cig. They make a kit with a rechargable battery pack and they make another that is an all in one, one time use cig. Start by picking up the disposable one and see if the system will be satisfying enough to sustain your urge to smoke. It lasts a fairly long time and you should have determined if it will work for you by the time it is empty. You can find them just about anywhere that cigarettes are sold. I've been using mine for over a month. One of the best things about them other than the no ash, fire, secondhand smoke, smelly hair and clothing thing is that you can safely smoke them on the highway with the top and doors off your Jeep.
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I was thinking of trying a disposable one first before jumping in... I'm just worried that a disposable type vs rechargeable/reuable may be too different to make a proper judgement call...
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it took me approximately 3 days to quit. prior to day 1, i made sure my pack was depleted and i smoked as much as i can during that last day just to get sick of it.

i made sure my gas was full and proceeded to go to work in the am with only my drivers license and my lunch with me. no money, no cigarette.

day 2 - the urge was killing me but gum helped a lot. everytime i wanted to take a smoke break, i would read an article from the internet to calm me down.

day 3 - little to no urges. i started to breathe better, been getting more energy at my crossfit gym, and everything just smelled much better.

also, those commercials of smokers with missing limbs, smoking from their neck, or talking with a machine really got to me. save those on youtube whenever you feel the urgency to smoke lol.
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it took me approximately 3 days to quit. prior to day 1, i made sure my pack was depleted and i smoked as much as i can during that last day just to get sick of it.

i made sure my gas was full and proceeded to go to work in the am with only my drivers license and my lunch with me. no money, no cigarette.

day 2 - the urge was killing me but gum helped a lot. everytime i wanted to take a smoke break, i would read an article from the internet to calm me down.

day 3 - little to no urges. i started to breathe better, been getting more energy at my crossfit gym, and everything just smelled much better.

also, those commercials of smokers with missing limbs, smoking from their neck, or talking with a machine really got to me. save those on youtube whenever you feel the urgency to smoke lol.
Do you live with someone who smokes? I do. I won't ask her to smoke outside, she has every right to smoke where she pleases. I don't blame my girlfriend for my inability to quit. Like I said, its just a way to reduce the habit, I don't smoke that much (carton every 3 weeks) and second hand smoke actually bothers me (I don't understand it either). I don't like smoking around my cat as well since Cosmo hangs out with me all day at home. So as said before, e-cig may be a better alternative for someone like me. Besides, I heard its near impossible to smoke cigs while topless in a jeep. (Haven't used my soft top yet since I bought my jeep last summer with the hard top on). Which I will be using sometime next week for the first time...
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^my fault for steering off topic. i didn't know the situation.

anyways, i used E Cigarettes i purchased 2 years ago at the mall. it lasted for a couple months (i didn't smoke a real cigarette at the time...perhaps 1 or two w/in the timeframe).

good - you can smoke it anywhere and it has the same effects as a regular cig.

bad - my cravings got worse as i smoked it everywhere lol...once i ran out of filters and having to go to the mall and purchase it for xx amount of $$, i went back to smoking regulars.
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^my fault for steering off topic. i didn't know the situation.

anyways, i used E Cigarettes i purchased 2 years ago at the mall. it lasted for a couple months (i didn't smoke a real cigarette at the time...perhaps 1 or two w/in the timeframe).

good - you can smoke it anywhere and it has the same effects as a regular cig.

bad - my cravings got worse as i smoked it everywhere lol...once i ran out of filters and having to go to the mall and purchase it for xx amount of $$, i went back to smoking regulars.
No worries, maybe I should of explained my situation abit more in my initial post. I don't plan on smoking anywhere in my case, treat the device as it would be a cig would curb down the anywhere factor.
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I was thinking of trying a disposable one first before jumping in... I'm just worried that a disposable type vs rechargeable/reuable may be too different to make a proper judgement call...
good plan, but just bear in mind that the disposables are filled with whatever the mfg decided to put in them. Note that I have not tried the retail ones so cannot comment intelligently, but in the vaper's forum, they are generally regarded as less than optimal flavor. Point being, decide if the use of one is a good fit for you, then look into a better quality kit and better e-juice (i.e. nic content/flavors/base composition).

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^my fault for steering off topic. i didn't know the situation. .....

bad - my cravings got worse as i smoked it everywhere lol...once i ran out of filters and having to go to the mall and purchase it for xx amount of $$, i went back to smoking regulars.
2x....I can sit at my desk in an office and vape away all day...so I am still at the equiv. of a pack a day.......still feeding a health nicotine addiction But my lungs and sinuses feel better, and my clothes and hands and hair don't reek


One thing to know...many people, myself included, will hack up a lot of pretty nasty stuff in the first week or so of vaping...that is your resp. system expelling the tar and crud from analogs, not a product of the vaping...
it goes away in a short while.
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Good feedback info to know notdeankane...
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Coming in to issue my $.02. I have been on the E-cig for about a year now. I have upgraded a couple of times to different units, but I feel it is much better than smoking real cigarettes.

My family does own a vapor store in SW Florida, so it does kind of help. lol

Anyway, to the new user there are many many different setups and there are a few different levels of nicotine to get you started. Many users go and buy the cheap ones from the gas station,etc. They try them, and hate them. We/ I, do not recommend these cheap ones.

What I recommend is that you go into a local vapor store and sit down and try one out. Most places have a testing bar, or a lounge area to sit and vape.

I also recommend only JOYETECH producs, and VIVA hardware. As far as e-liquids go. We only sell AMERICAN e-liquids. No chineese bull crap. Almost all of our stuff is rechargeable, except the small disposable ones we sell for $5-$6.00 from Totally Wicked E-Liquids.

Also, I would not even try to sample a "510" series, or any of the smaller ones that are about the size of a pen. If you have smoked for years, these will not give you what you're looking for.

When a new customer comes in to test out a product, we usually try to start them off with a 650mAh battery, and a bottom feed clearomizer with a steel casing.

This setup, so far, has proven to be one of the longest lasting, most reliable setups that we have tested. Personally, I run a bottom feed clearomizer, and a 1000mAh battery with adjustable voltage.

My batteries are all Joyetech, and I have not had any issue with them. Too many places sell bunk joyetech replicas and they short out, or the buttons fall out, or they fall apart, etc. Beware of fakes.

A real Joyetech will have the logo laser engraved/stamped on the bottom of the battery, as well as it should be printed on the battery body itself. It should be heavy and cased in steel, unless it comes with a coating (most come in a variety of rubberized color coatings, blue, red, black, pink, etc.) I have 2 black 650's and a stainless 1000 personally. They get the job done for me no issue at all.

As for your nicotine levels, if you are a heavy smoker, you will want to start out at about 24-26mg of nicotine.

Moderate smoker 16-18mg

Light smoker 10-12mg.

We also offer non nicotine e-liquids as well, as some people prefer to continue vaping if they have completely stopped their nicotine habits.

I hope this helps.
PM if you have any questions, and (not to advertise) but visit our store at Home and you can see some of the products, and read a little bit about switching to an e-cig. Also, I know you're in canada, but feel free to call the store, ask for the owner, who is my mother, and she can discuss some things with you as well if you have other questions.
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Well I just went and bought a disposable version of "vapur" classic original today. Its not bad, I could get use to this. Anyone use different flavors a side from menthol? Also, anyone have a clue how long a disposable version lasts on average? If I like it and have no side effects, I will opt towards a rechargeable version.
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You MAY NOT see any feedback from the disposable due to the lack of air flow you can get through them, as well as the amount of nicotine in them.

There are MANY MANY flavors of e-liquids available. You just have to go to a vapor store and try a few. I don't recommend trying any more than 3 at a time, because you will get to where they all taste the same.

I happen to like the coffee flavors in mine. Coffee, Cappuccino, Irish Cream, Kahlua, French Vanilla, etc. These are just what I like.

Do yourself the favor and find a real vape store and try some.

The typical disposables usually have about 5 hours of vaping battery life before they die. You see differences in them depending on your vaping habits.
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You MAY NOT see any feedback from the disposable due to the lack of air flow you can get through them, as well as the amount of nicotine in them.

There are MANY MANY flavors of e-liquids available. You just have to go to a vapor store and try a few. I don't recommend trying any more than 3 at a time, because you will get to where they all taste the same.

I happen to like the coffee flavors in mine. Coffee, Cappuccino, Irish Cream, Kahlua, French Vanilla, etc. These are just what I like.

Do yourself the favor and find a real vape store and try some.

The typical disposables usually have about 5 hours of vaping battery life before they die. You see differences in them depending on your vaping habits.
I appreciate your feedback but I live in the middle of nowhere! There is no vape store near me, and it there was it would be a 5 hour drive south This is why I am asking for information here. Any flavors that taste like redbull (or similar to) would be great for me lol PS I hate coffee anything including the drink hehehe... but thats just me.
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Good feedback info to know notdeankane...

No worries, I am always happy to give my .02 when someone asks about vaping, since I enjoy it.

Maybe if you get into it, your GF will too!

I think that the public attitude towards vaping is changing for the better, although governmental and municipal rules are less accommodating; there are lots of stories on various vaping sites about how some people get offended by vaping (such as locales which do not allow public tobacco smoking)...but I have yet to be chided for vaping pretty much wherever I want. Lots of places make vapers go outside with the smokers....something I disagree with, but whatever.

I was sitting in Newark Liberty airport one time, delayed flight home (surprise)...so sat in the bar/lounge and started vaping with my refreshment. No one batted an eye, and the folks sitting on either side of me started asking about it, so we started passing it around.

I regularly vape when the mrs. & I go to movies, or out somewhere.

I even vape on planes, but do it stealth...i.e. only when I get a window seat and hold the vape until there is nothing really left...just so I don't raise a fuss...I think all domestic airlines specifically prohibit the use of PV's onboard...but I had read that Aer Lingus actually sells the disposables in-flight...their reasoning: they'd rather have relaxed passengers than jittery smokers jonesing for a smoke
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There are many red bull flavors. What you need to do is just pick a couple to start out with. Then pick some other ones next time.

Click on the link I posted and you will see some flavors.

Here: Home

That gives a decent list of flavors available, and some places will have many more than those. I think we can make/sell around 200 different flavors, etc.
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I moved to 'vaping' about a week ago. I'm not a heavy smoker, less than 1/2 a pack a day, and I've quit for long stretches (9+ months). I always seem to fall off the wagon on a fishing or camping trip (or extended drinking binge). Hopefully this will help with that.

I bought a Joyetech eGo-T 1000mAh Battery, along with a Kanger evod-bcc, plus a bottle of juice (Big Red gum knockoff) for around $60. From what others have told me the bottle is the equivalent of 3 cartons, and usually goes for about $20.



On a side note I haven't been getting much of a draw on it lately. How often would an atomizer need to be replaced?
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Usually an atomizer (depending on how much you vape, and its quality) will last 2weeks to a month.

Average is 3 weeks I would say.

Also- what size bottle are you paying $20 for?

You're running pretty much the same setup as I am, I go through the 2.4mL in 3 -4 days, and I've had this one on here since early May.
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Usually an atomizer (depending on how much you vape, and its quality) will last 2weeks to a month.

Average is 3 weeks I would say.

Also- what size bottle are you paying $20 for?

You're running pretty much the same setup as I am, I go through the 2.4mL in 3 -4 days, and I've had this one on here since early May.
Sorry, just saw the website, it's $18 for 30mL of 24mg level.

I found some videos on atomizer care, I may try that (or charging the batteries ). I'm not sure if I have the Joyetech or Kanger atomizer.
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Our atomizer/ clearomizers are produced from Viva, thats the brand that we sell primarily in our store. We have had good results and life out of most of them.

Maybe you should try charging the battery. lol
Sometimes when I hit it, and it doesn't vape much, it takes a couple of times to hit it and warm up the coil, and it seems to vape pretty good.

Of course, I can solve any vaping issue I have with the C-Twist battery.
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Our atomizer/ clearomizers are produced from Viva, thats the brand that we sell primarily in our store. We have had good results and life out of most of them.

Maybe you should try charging the battery. lol
Sometimes when I hit it, and it doesn't vape much, it takes a couple of times to hit it and warm up the coil, and it seems to vape pretty good.

Of course, I can solve any vaping issue I have with the C-Twist battery.
I'm such a freaking neebie, I don't know what type I have, or the difference between and atomizer, cartomizer, different type of coils, etc.

I guess it isn't too bad, I couldn't tell the difference between a JCR stubby and a Rampage recovery when I started here.
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Lol!

Its ok, there is a lot, and its always changing.

Just find what works for you. If you have a true Joyetech battery, you should be good to go.

The atomizer is actually just a little piece inside that heats up the liquid. Or it can be considered an atomizer body.

The cartomizer is old school they are disposable, where the atomizer is contained inside the "cartridge" that holds the e-liquid.

Then there is also the coil type which is a replaceable piece inside the atomizer/ clearomizer body.
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:27 AM   #29
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Missing the CE2. I am now working with a rebuild able. Not sure if I care for it yet. Running a single mesh wick. The other hole is open and leaks if kept on the side. Dunno ... Going to dig for something else.

I was told to run a thinker 50/50 or so mix. Right now straight PG. maybe this will help with leaks ?
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:34 AM   #30
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Yea, I guess I am big time here. Far from the V4L Polly filled carts
Most look at this thing like WTF

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