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Old 05-26-2013, 09:16 PM   #1
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F1 vs. Indy 500

Hate to say it but the Monaco Grand Prix F1 race was way more exciting than the Indy 500 this year. Plus IRL has fenders around the tires now. Barely an open wheel race car.

The four women in the 500 race today were barely mentioned. I think one met an early demise as she crashed into the wall unprovoked. I miss that little spitfire Danica Patrick .. IRL is boring without her.

I'd jump over to NASCAR... but I haven't watched a stock car race since the early 70's after they outlawed the Hemi Winged cars.

I guess F1 is the ticket... if they install fenders on those, you'll know the end is near.

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I've been an F1 fan for years, and I'd choose it over pretty much any other form of racing. I don't like that they've made it so artificial in the last few years, and I'm not a big fan of the new restrictions they introduce pretty much every year, but I still prefer it. Hopefully the races in New Jersey and Texas will bring in new fans over here. It's got to be better than what Tony George did in Indy.

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I've been an F1 fan for years, and I'd choose it over pretty much any other form of racing. I don't like that they've made it so artificial in the last few years, and I'm not a big fan of the new restrictions they introduce pretty much every year, but I still prefer it. Hopefully the races in New Jersey and Texas will bring in new fans over here. It's got to be better than what Tony George did in Indy.
Totally agree....
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F1 has always been better, but it does have a lot more silly rules now-a-days than say 10 years ago.

It is much more technical driving on a much more technical course, especially at Monaco. There is just nothing else quite like it on the ground.

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Oh, and hats off to Nico Rosberg.
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Old 05-27-2013, 08:32 AM   #5
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Watched a little of the F1 race, watched most of the Indy 500 and all of the NASCAR race. I was born and raised in a NASCAR family so I've been watching it my entire life. For me personally NASCAR is my favorite, followed by Indy and F1 bringing up the rear. But I don't follow Indy or F1 any other time of the year, just can't get into it.
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The excitement of the standing start and everyone piling into the first corner is hard to beat
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I like them both for different reasons...
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NASCAR doesn't do it for me. F1 does but the technologies that go in to it wear me out. My favorite is the Australian V8 Supercars. Kind of the best of both worlds. They were in Austin 2 weekends ago.
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NASCAR doesn't do it for me. F1 does but the technologies that go in to it wear me out. My favorite is the Australian V8 Supercars. Kind of the best of both worlds. They were in Austin 2 weekends ago.
The technology is a big part of what keeps me interested. A lot of the advancements on modern road cars come from technologies first engineered in F1.
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Don't get me wrong, I still follow F1 but at times it seems more technology means less driver input, if that makes sense. My friend Toly Arutunoff said "wide tires ruined racing." I'm not a purist but I like a middle ground of driver skill, car set-up, technology....
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Don't get me wrong, I still follow F1 but at times it seems more technology means less driver input, if that makes sense. My friend Toly Arutunoff said "wide tires ruined racing." I'm not a purist but I like a middle ground of driver skill, car set-up, technology....
To be fair, they removed the driver aids a few years ago. Gone are the days of traction control, launch control and ABS. I think the DRS is a bit too much, at least the way it's implemented, but I'm ok with the KERS. I do wish they'd bring back refueling, but I'm ok with waiting until Red Bull nails a sub 2 second stop for tires. Lol
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NASCAR doesn't do it for me. F1 does but the technologies that go in to it wear me out. My favorite is the Australian V8 Supercars. Kind of the best of both worlds. They were in Austin 2 weekends ago.
Ah always forget about the Australian V8 Supercars. That's some good racing right there!!!!
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F1 is the most entertaining in my opinion. CART used to be one of my favorites here in the states and then when Tony George stepped in and ruined it all with the CART and IRL battle it has been down hill from there. IRL was a joke when it first started but it has improved some over the years. I personally do not even waste my time anymore watching these races. I like a good stock car race once in a while but even that has its moments and they get pretty boring watching them go around in circles all day.
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... and they get pretty boring watching them go around in circles all day.
IMO - Nascar, IRL, etc are like basketball; the last 2 minutes is all you need to see. F1 (and most track racing) is a story that unfolds from the beginning, where failing to prepare to pass with 4 or 5 laps left, or failing to get a jump into corner 1 makes a difference in podium placement. I haven't seen many 'close' finishes (in the circle track sense) but have genuinely enjoyed nearly every F1 race I have seen, from tree to checker. And the crashes are way better, anyhow.

I'm just glad we survived the American fiasco from a few years back. I get real excited when I think about Americans getting amped about F1 again, and several races happening here. I do wish they would go back a bit with the whole pit stop, kers, etc though.
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You guys remember SCCA and when the Archer brothers made Jeep history? I always enjoyed those guys in their lowered MJ's clipping the apexes.. as well as when Hans Stuck and Hurley Haywood took the Trans Am series by storm with their Audi Quattros.

I agree with the sentiments about CART and IRL ... TG was a fool with his desire to return Indy cars to its roots and simply run ovals race after race like NASCAR or USAC with open wheel cars. How long did that last?

That's the reason CART was formed... driver owned international series to bridge the gap between USAC, SCCA, IMSA and F1 with all the silly rule making or lack of action that was not in the best interest of the sport or drivers.

The Can-Am series was my all time favorite. It was the bring your best driver and all the technology you can muster up series... Chaparrals, McLarens, Porsche 917's.. the golden years of racing.

This spec car series racing is really boring if you're not in the driver seat.

The two things that makes F1 exciting is when the manufacturers break the rules and drivers make skillful maneuvers to overtake positions...

Monaco F1 was an exciting race.

I attended Jim Russell BSMR at Laguna Seca back in the 80's .. when I was young, I gave up a chance to race on the same streets that F1 raced at the Long Beach Grand Prix - my only regret in life.

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One more week and I'll be in grandstand 11 in Montreal.
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Keep an eye on Sergio Perez ... snakes his way around fellow racers.

.. but not in a Paul Tracy way.

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F1 is usually a technology parade but Monaco?


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