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Old 09-23-2006, 01:47 PM   #61
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I just checked it out, and the red wolf was once a native of Mississippi. They are being reintroduced. They do prey on white tail.

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i'm surprised the coyote has only been mentioned once, coyote's will kill a deer in a heartbeat with out thinkin twice about it

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i'm surprised the coyote has only been mentioned once, coyote's will kill a deer in a heartbeat with out thinkin twice about it
We didnt have to many coyotes up there, mainly foxes but they are still plentyful as far as I know, I might be wrong though.
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I just checked it out, and the red wolf was once a native of Mississippi. They are being reintroduced. They do prey on white tail.

Thanks for the education.
Didnt know that red wolves were there I guess I need to study some more. I really only know about Timber wolves to a point.
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No timber wolves in Mississippi. Could a coyote take down a deer? They are so dang small. Anyway, there are none here. The only predator a deer has here is people.

Yall know what a fun sport is? Transmitter hunting! Anyone ever do that? I used to do it every weekend, but it's been about 7 years. I don't think a Jeep would work out for it very well, though.
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Old 09-23-2006, 02:21 PM   #66
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No timber wolves in Mississippi. Could a coyote take down a deer? They are so dang small. Anyway, there are none here. The only predator a deer has here is people.

Yall know what a fun sport is? Transmitter hunting! Anyone ever do that? I used to do it every weekend, but it's been about 7 years. I don't think a Jeep would work out for it very well, though.

Not sure what is it, I saw a web sight where some guy set up a web cam and people payed him to shoot a remote controlled gun, Crazy if you ask me Ok enough fun I have 60 more pages to read and a test to study for on the Spanish American War. See ya all later on.
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amerijeep got a question for buddy.......are you a meat eater at all, do you eat eggs, bacon or steaks.....if so ...tell me what is the difference is between a cow and a deer, or a hog and a deer....I don't want to ruffle your feathers here, its just a question to see your view point on this intake....tell me the differnce between someone slaughtering a cow, or pig than someone hunting a deer.

If your a vegetarian then that is ok with me...but if you eat meat, I would like your view point on the difference....PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS AS A POINTING THE FINGER, its just a question to help me understand you take on this.
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Check out this website. Bears, coyotes, Wolfe's, cars, and winters, all kill deer. As I said before, not much research is needed to find out the facts.

http://www.nwf.org/wildlife/pdfs/Wol...ling%20deer%22

This is just one web page, out of a whole bunch.

If one is going to stand on a soap box, one should be educated on the issues. Knowledge is power, standing on a baseless point, without the facts, is kind of pointless. It is easy to have a narrowed point of view, if one only gets their information from one source. According to the tree huggers, we should not harvest trees for our use, because they are, "alive". Give me a break. God created this world to provide us with the necessities to live. This does not mean mindlessly killing, or raping our natural resources. We are to harvest with knowledge, and with the intent of replanting, and protecting our resources. Oh me, let me stop here. Anyway, if ignorance is truly bliss.......there ought to be a bunch of happy campers out there..........lol............
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Back on topic

I got a goose today, had to sneak up on them thru a cornfield, got 1 shot off then my shotgun jammed (bismuth shot), anyway I was wondering if anyone has any ideas for some kind of rack that mounts to the roll bar for my shotgun/rifle, It is a little cramped in the back of my unlimited with my dog and all my gear, even with the seat removed. I have seen a case that mounts to a mule type vehicle rollbar and was wondering if it would work on a jeep.
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Look. I'm done with this. If you need to know more, PM me. I'll give you my phone number. We'll talk about it. That goes for anyone on here.

Blu, I don't care about your facts. For every site you find to state a positon, I can find one to contradict it. None of it means jack. I still love ya though Blu.

I have taken no offense by anyone and I meant none to anyone else. I enjoy talking to you guys on the forum, but this discussion is really something that I should never have gotten into. You guys have rights to do and believe what you want, just like I have the same rights.

Let's all let this go. I know I am guilty of starting this. I'm sorry, but if you any of you knew me personally, you would know that I really do speak for those who can't speak for themselves. I'm not mad and haven't been. You guys should know that even if it doesn't come through, I'm speaking to ya light-hearted. Maybe Kat should throw in some smilies for me more often.
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I got a goose today, had to sneak up on them thru a cornfield, got 1 shot off then my shotgun jammed (bismuth shot), anyway I was wondering if anyone has any ideas for some kind of rack that mounts to the roll bar for my shotgun/rifle, It is a little cramped in the back of my unlimited with my dog and all my gear, even with the seat removed. I have seen a case that mounts to a mule type vehicle rollbar and was wondering if it would work on a jeep.
My Jeep had a gun rack in it when I bought it. It ran on one side above the wheel well, between the bar supports. I'm pretty sure it was something after-market made for Jeeps. I tried using it for fishing poles, but they were just too long.

I may have the thing some where. I'll post a pic if I can locate it. If it is in any kind of shape, you're welcome to it. There is a good chance it is gone now though.
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It is all good my friend. I meant you, nor anyone else, any harm. I do not hunt, but respect the ones that legally do so. It is a choice, and that is all it is. This has almost turned out to be a religious discussion, and we all know how far south those can get. I deeply respect your position, and would never want to hurt your feelings, or anyone else's, on here. You just started a position that I did a term paper on in college, and I guess it is still very close to heart. It is not so much the position, as it is the approach. If that makes any sense. Anyway, to all the hunters out there, good hunting this fall. To all the ones that don't like hunting, we still have the slaughtered animals at the grocery store to eat. (small attempt at some humor). To those that are vegetarian, eat well, live long, and prosper. And to anyone I have left out, we love you too. Goodnight everyone, and hope that life is whatever your dreams can come up with.
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Thx aj I have been looking thru every catalog I can find, from cabela's to quadratec, Pics would be nice, I know how to weld and just need some ideas on the design.
My cherokee had a lot more room in it, but it did have a tougher time getting to the places I hunt and fish.
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Hey Amerijeep, I respect your opinons and that of others who beleive as you do. Even though I love to hunt and needed to put some meat in the freezer I feel it is of the utmost importance to project a good image to the general public. Sunday I was driving to my hunting area when I saw a small heard of Cow Elk about 100 yard off the dirt road I was on. They were on public land and perfectly leagal for me to make a stalk on, However there were 4 other cars pulled off the road takeing pictures. These were people who came up to view the changing leaves and were treated to an Elk sighting. I could have made the stalk eaisly but new it would not be appreciated by the tourists so I got back in my truck and drove on. I have had a great Archery season this year even though I didn't fill my tag. And I feel good that I didn't ruin the experience of others. Deer season is comming up and I know I will get some meat. Between now and the end of Oct its time for some flyfishing. Griz
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Hey Amerijeep, I respect your opinons and that of others who beleive as you do. Even though I love to hunt and needed to put some meat in the freezer I feel it is of the utmost importance to project a good image to the general public. Sunday I was driving to my hunting area when I saw a small heard of Cow Elk about 100 yard off the dirt road I was on. They were on public land and perfectly leagal for me to make a stalk on, However there were 4 other cars pulled off the road takeing pictures. These were people who came up to view the changing leaves and were treated to an Elk sighting. I could have made the stalk eaisly but new it would not be appreciated by the tourists so I got back in my truck and drove on. I have had a great Archery season this year even though I didn't fill my tag. And I feel good that I didn't ruin the experience of others. Deer season is comming up and I know I will get some meat. Between now and the end of Oct its time for some flyfishing. Griz
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Jepper, I know you said that you wouldn't respond on this anymore, but I have been wondering on your views of eating meat also? I will say that I'm not against hunting however I have yet to partake in the hunt.

You ask what would be the predator to deer in your area (minus human elements) I would say that lack of food is probably right up there. When you get an abundance of any species (People included) then the available food supply takes a huge hit. So either they have to migrate on to other areas/states or they starve to death and that makes them weak and succeptable to the predators that are in the vacinity (Sp?)
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Jepper, I know you said that you wouldn't respond on this anymore, but I have been wondering on your views of eating meat also? I will say that I'm not against hunting however I have yet to partake in the hunt.

You ask what would be the predator to deer in your area (minus human elements) I would say that lack of food is probably right up there. When you get an abundance of any species (People included) then the available food supply takes a huge hit. So either they have to migrate on to other areas/states or they starve to death and that makes them weak and succeptable to the predators that are in the vacinity (Sp?)
I don't have any easy answers, Jack. I'm only answering you because of the respect we have built for each other since this forum was born.

I eat meat. I don't support PETA. I don't believe what they believe.

I have certain beliefs, some of which are: The justice system of the US bites, all dogs and cats should be spayed and neutered and puppy farms should be outlawed, the Tom Cruise that was in Top Gun was replaced by an alien, Courtesy of the Red White and Blue by Toby Keith should be a second National Anthem, baseball players make too much money, KISS is the greatest band in the world, deer hunting is not sporting, and the reason fat chicks can't jump because they all wear Keds instead of Chuck Taylors.

I probably should have stated a clear position at the start of the thread, but at this point, all I do is defend myself and I don't really care enough to do it.

I'm going to stand up for anything that can't speak for itself. It's a curse. I have to go to just about every meeting we have at work, because they know if they want to know what sucks, I'm gonna tell it.
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The number one threat to wildlife is loss of Habitat. There are many sportsman organizations thats prime objective is preserving the habitat. The Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, Ducks Unlimited and the Wild Turkey Federation are the best I have found. The RMEF has bought up tens of thousand of acres of land to preserve critical Elk habitat which also benifits many other species. Some of this land is open to limited hunting and some is closed to hunting. It all depends on the best benefit to the Elk. It is the sportsmans ( read hunters and fisherman) dollars that supports these organizations. They are hunters organizations and promote hunting but they all do much more than that. They all have my suppport as well as some other organizationssuch as Trout Unlimited, Pheasents Forever, The Mule Deer Foundation, Colorado Bowhunters Association and the Federation of Fly Fisherman. Griz
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...and the reason fat chicks can't jump because they all wear Keds instead of Chuck Taylors.
Okay, who's gonna speak for the "fat chicks"?
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Jepper I appreciate your position my friend. I do however belong to PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals) Okay so maybe in bad humor on this thread. And there is nothing wrong with your position either.

I have a tendancy to speak my mind also and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't think anyone around here is attacking the other. We like to think on Wrangler Forum that we can have these kinds of discussions without overstepping any boundaries of decency. That can't be said on very many forums. But I can gaurantee we have not had to delete a post yet because we thought it was over the top.
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"deer hunting is not sporting"
I don't care... it's right up there with jeepin and sex in my book! Not necessarily in that order.
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Here are some pictures from my scouting camera, taken from last Thursday to this Tuesday. My stand for bowhunting is less than 20 yards from where these pictures were taken.










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the bodies on them bucks look kinda small.... i'd let em walk and wait a couple more yrs, then bust em
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Yeah, I was noticing that too. This isn't my buck hunting stand anyway. We have to kill a doe in our club this year before we can kill a buck. I'll be bowhunting from this stand to fill a doe tag. The summer was really hot and dry this year. I have seen some good bucks on the other parts of the property, though.
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i was pretty upset when we loat one of our cams the other day, in the stand i'll mostly hunt, it had 2 does, one was a nice sized one, and had a fawn with it, but it looked old enough to live alone from now on, and there was 2 spikes, but the good news bout the spikes is that the main beams were pretty tall and rather thick, so they're promising, as long as some other bone head out there dont kill em while they're still small.
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What happened to your cam? I lock mine around the tree. But, if someone comes up on it and wants one bad enough they will get it. It's kinda like owning a jeep with a soft top.
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That fawn was still in spots so I think I would let the doe walk. Besides she looked kinda young also. The bucks were probally 2.5 year olds. For a trophy I would want al least a 4 year old. IMOP I would look for a fat old doe. One past her breading prime. For a meat buck the 2.5 yr olds will be better eating. Griz
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I agree. Some on this forum would think that we would just walk out and shoot whatever walks in front of us. (no offense AJ) Part of hunting is doing what is best for the herd. I will not indescriminately fill a tag without considering age, condition, and genetics in my choices. That is one reason why I use a scouting camera. It tells you what to look for.

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