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Old 07-06-2014, 10:07 AM   #1
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Going to court over a ticket

Can I gain anything by going to court over a ticket? Cop said he would push for no points on my license since it was my first ticket. But that would mean driving to knoxville and probably paying the ticket anyway. Is it worth it or should I just pay up?

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In south florida we have a service called ticket clinic, they go to court for you. Basically a local traffic attorney. $80, no points, no ticket, no wasted time. See if there is something similar in your area.
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IN most states if its your first ticket for a MISSDEMEANER traffic citation you have the option of attending a traffic safety course [traffic school] and the ticket will be dismissed with no points. of course you will have to pay a tuition to attend but it might be worth your time and money for insurance rate future savings. if the option is not offered and your guilty bite the bullet, pay the fine and get on with your life
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I can't speak for Tennessee, but in Georgia I just placed a call to the County Clerks office and asked if I could have the ticketed speed reduced to 14 over to avoid points on my license. If you've been ticket free they're usually pretty nice about it. 59 in a 45 resulted in a $94 ticket for me with no points.
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No, I don't think that was possible in the Tj lol.
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Old 07-07-2014, 07:27 AM   #9
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Find out how many points you are looking at, then check with your insurance agent, and see if it is going to affect your insurance rates. Go from there and decide if it is worth your time to go to court.
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Old 07-07-2014, 05:57 PM   #10
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It's always worth the time to go to court. The revenue collectors patrolling the roads depend on you just giving up & paying up to perpetuate their livelihood. You win some and you lose some, but they still have to prove you committed a crime in order to fine you...
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Go to the courthouse, speak to the clerk at the window, and ask her if you can get deferred adjudication. You don't want defensive driving unless you can't do deferred adjudication, because usually it will go on your driving record. You just need to make sure you drive lawfully for the adjudication period.

You do not need a lawyer for 80 in 65, but a lawyer will gladly take your money.
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When the officer pulled you over did he ask you a question like, "do you know why I pulled you over", or "do you know what the speed limit is here", or "do you know how fast were you going", etc. If so, what was your response?
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IN most states if its your first ticket for a MISSDEMEANER traffic citation you have the option of attending a traffic safety course [traffic school] and the ticket will be dismissed with no points. of course you will have to pay a tuition to attend but it might be worth your time and money for insurance rate future savings. if the option is not offered and your guilty bite the bullet, pay the fine and get on with your life
You mis-spelled MISDEMEANOR.



Also, traffic school is customarily for CIVIL traffic violations, like speeding, lane change and turning violations. A driver is ruled "responsible" or "not responsible" based on the preponderance of the evidence.

Misdemeanor traffic violations are criminal and carry "go to jail" potential. Common misdemeanor traffic violations are DUI and reckless or suspended driving. The driver is ruled "not guilty" or "guilty" based upon proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Criminal misdemeanor driving violations are generally NOT traffic school eligible.


An additional point of interest, is that cops get more complaints from issuing warnings than from issuing citations. I got one today. It was the first car I pulled over in 10 months, since going detective. It was a criminal violation and I gave a warning.

I'm sympathetic to the next few drivers I pull over, but I'm also too fearful of getting another complaint too soon to risk giving any warnings in lieu of a citation for the next few weeks. I hope ya'll understand...*


*Is that how I should react? Is it mature? While it's true that courtesy is the fastest way to generate a complaint, I won't change my tactics. I will be courteous and as lenient as practicable with all drivers. I just wish people would realize that no good will come from perpetuating the negative. What goes around, comes around. Will the OP cry when a criminal burglarizes his Jeep amd gets off on a technicality?

OP, if you screwed up, then own up, and move forward. If the fine is unreasonable, then ask the court for leniency. Set a positive example. Why must accountability be a lost character trait?

It seems everyone is in a competition to see who can be the biggest weasel.
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It's always worth the time to go to court. The revenue collectors patrolling the roads depend on you just giving up & paying up to perpetuate their livelihood. You win some and you lose some, but they still have to prove you committed a crime in order to fine you...

The half of you that are deadbeats, that are on welfare, need the revenue more than the police. It goes to pay for your food stamps and Obamacare. Fire and police are pennies by comparison. Don't think of the ticket as a fine. Think of it as giving the state some of it's money back.

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The half of you that are deadbeats, that are on welfare, need the revenue more than the police. It goes to pay for your food stamps and Obamacare. Fire and police are pennies by comparison. Don't think of the ticket as a fine. Think of it as giving the state some of it's money back.

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Don't lump Fire in with the Police. We don't sit on the roads looking for things to ding someone on. Fire Depts provide a public service. Police look for the criminal in everyone they are supposed to serve.

To the OP, Not sure about Tenn, but first offense here usually results in a Probation Before Judgement in court.
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The half of you that are deadbeats, that are on welfare, need the revenue more than the police. It goes to pay for your food stamps and Obamacare. Fire and police are pennies by comparison. Don't think of the ticket as a fine. Think of it as giving the state some of it's money back.

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Aaannnd this, ladies and gentlemen is how your beloved peace officers really view the public. Although I've never been in a situation to have to take public assistance, I'm going to make the logical leap that since you quoted me and then threw out a bunch of "you"s that you're calling me a deadbeat? In my profession, we don't demand payment at gunpoint for minor victimless offenses, we provide a service in exchange for voluntary payment. We don't drive around looking for slight rule infractions in order to initiate conflict, and then turn violent if one of our customers object to being bullied by a man with a gun. And I'm the deadbeat here?
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I've got a caseload of 30+, ranging from Tuesday's bank robbery back to a 2013 residential burglary, and everything between.

Half the population is on state support, "you" is general. If I address someone specific, I say as much, I.E. "To the OP...". I haven't written a traffic related citation since November.

I never met a cop who started out genuinely mean, they want to help. I worked 7 years of weekends amd holidays, missed virtually every social function, worked in the cold, the heat, worked 30 hours straight in the same underwear, been in several scary fights, had a guy dump a whole mag of 9mm right at me... Etc...

The public thinks cops are a machine, a utility, an escalation tool to get revenge. We get lied to, injured, sometimes killed, amd when it happens it's like the officer is a 3/5ths person.

Whetstone, I've learned that if someone has a problem with a cop, then they are a POS. The odds are only 50/50 you are a deadbeat, but 100% you are a chud. Unlike you, I make an effort daily, to make the world around me a safer & better place. Anyone who dislikes my effort is a POS looking to prey on the weak, because good people don't normally interact with the police and have nothing to fear. Evil people fear and dislike the police, because it helps their cause. This means you whetstone.
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It's always worth the time to go to court. The revenue collectors patrolling the roads depend on you just giving up & paying up to perpetuate their livelihood. You win some and you lose some, but they still have to prove you committed a crime in order to fine you...
The guy was doing 80MPH in a 60MPH. That's against the law (which he broke) - pretty cut and dry. The OP should pay his fine and move on.
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Set a positive example. Why must accountability be a lost character trait?
I'd have to agree with you.

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