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Old 08-22-2008, 12:51 AM   #91
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I almost drowned in my water bottle when I read that!
better than drowning in someone elses water bottle...

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Old 08-22-2008, 03:03 AM   #92
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OK, so I see in the news we've had yet another school shooting.

Here's what we do...


Make it mandatory that all students wear a school uniform and make bullet-proof vests and Kevlar helmets part of that uniform.
Allow all students to carry guns to school for self defense.
Mandate that the curriculum shift to that of basic military training with special attention to small arms training and weapons cleaning.
School will start at 04:30 and end at 19:00.
All students must clear weapons at the clearing barrel before entering the school house proper.
Once students are inside the school grounds lock the gates and have guards patrol the perimeter. Anyone trying to get in or out will be shot on sight. NO QUESTIONS.
Any student disobeying the "NO FIRE" rule inside the school house will be publicly executed at recess. NO QUESTIONS.
Flame throwers will NOT be permitted on school property except for security personnel.
Explosives will NOT be permitted on school property except for security personnel.


Or....


The lazy fawkin' parents of this country could get off their collective lazy asses, turn off the TV and do their fawkin' job!

With the exception of the criminally insane, if parents did their fawkin' job, we wouldn't need prisons!

It strikes me as odd that in this modern era where you can not discipline (beat their asses) your kids when they are bad, people bitch about the actions of these little bastards when they commit crimes. All the shooters at these schools ever needed was a good old fashion ass whoopin' way before they got out of control enough to take a gun to school. Jesus, I can't be the only one that sees this chit!

SAVE A CHILD'S LIFE! BEAT HIS/HER ASS WHEN HE'S/SHE'S REALLY BAD OR PUTTING THEMSELVES IN DANGER!

And before the bleedin' hearts chime in... THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEATING A CHILD'S ASS WHEN HE/SHE IS REALLY BAD OR RISKING HARM TO THEMSELVES AND CHILD ABUSE!!!
Cherry red cheeks NEVER killed ANYONE! My Grandfather whooped my ass plenty. And ya know what?! I never once even thought about taking a gun to school! Hell, when I went to school the teachers could beat your ass! And they had that paddle with the holes drilled in it! And don't even get me started on those damned Nuns at the Catholic School!

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Old 08-22-2008, 03:28 AM   #93
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I worry about the idea that the gun will protect people. People protect people. Combat shooting is not target shooting. Paper targets don't shoot back. Hogans Alley is fun, but doesn't compare to almost getting killed. I don't think many teachers will practice with their gun every month (that's what it takes to be ready to fight). Stand in a small room with an airsoft gun in your waistband and let your friend open the door with his airsoft gun already out and see what happens. I think we all get the point now. This is not Hollywood. Anyone who has every really been shot at will tell you it is an undescribable experience to those who have not been. I'm a big believer in School Resource Officers. Spend the money on one.

Forget the media hype. Here are some facts. According to the Safe Schools Initiative which studied school shootings in the US between 1974 and 2000, only 37 incidents occurred in those 26 years. In 2005-2006 only 5 occurred in the US. Compared to the 30,000+ murders that occur in the US every year, this is a rare problem with big media hype. You have a greater chance of being murdered in your own home.
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Old 08-22-2008, 07:17 AM   #94
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The lazy fawkin' parents of this country could get off their collective lazy asses, turn off the TV and do their fawkin' job!

With the exception of the criminally insane, if parents did their fawkin' job, we wouldn't need prisons!

It strikes me as odd that in this modern era where you can not discipline (beat their asses) your kids when they are bad, people bitch about the actions of these little bastards when they commit crimes. All the shooters at these schools ever needed was a good old fashion ass whoopin' way before they got out of control enough to take a gun to school. Jesus, I can't be the only one that sees this chit!

SAVE A CHILD'S LIFE! BEAT HIS/HER ASS WHEN HE'S/SHE'S REALLY BAD OR PUTTING THEMSELVES IN DANGER!

And before the bleedin' hearts chime in... THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEATING A CHILD'S ASS WHEN HE/SHE IS REALLY BAD OR RISKING HARM TO THEMSELVES AND CHILD ABUSE!!!
Cherry red cheeks NEVER killed ANYONE! My Grandfather whooped my ass plenty. And ya know what?! I never once even thought about taking a gun to school! Hell, when I went to school the teachers could beat your ass! And they had that paddle with the holes drilled in it! And don't even get me started on those damned Nuns at the Catholic School!
I believe I said something similar on page 1 or 2, so you're not the only one to see the root of the problem.

Parental skills, I think have been on the decline since the kids of the 60's have been having kids. My parents are good parents and were NOT afraid to whoop me or my sisters if we screwed up. Fortunately, that didn't have to happen to often. My parents were born in the 40's. People born a bit later were part of the freedom/hippie movement and I think from that point on, parents have had the free love kind of mentality where the collectives will raise kids - problem is, the collective is seriously fubared. And what do ya know, so are the kids (generally speaking). In saying this, I'm not saying ALL parents after 1960 are bad; some avoided that movement. But look at crime rates starting in the mid/late 60's through today, and I have to wonder if there is a correlation...
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:39 AM   #95
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OK, so I see in the news we've had yet another school shooting.

Here's what we do...


Make it mandatory that all students wear a school uniform and make bullet-proof vests and Kevlar helmets part of that uniform.
Allow all students to carry guns to school for self defense.
Mandate that the curriculum shift to that of basic military training with special attention to small arms training and weapons cleaning.
School will start at 04:30 and end at 19:00.
All students must clear weapons at the clearing barrel before entering the school house proper.
Once students are inside the school grounds lock the gates and have guards patrol the perimeter. Anyone trying to get in or out will be shot on sight. NO QUESTIONS.
Any student disobeying the "NO FIRE" rule inside the school house will be publicly executed at recess. NO QUESTIONS.
Flame throwers will NOT be permitted on school property except for security personnel.
Explosives will NOT be permitted on school property except for security personnel.


Or....


The lazy fawkin' parents of this country could get off their collective lazy asses, turn off the TV and do their fawkin' job!

With the exception of the criminally insane, if parents did their fawkin' job, we wouldn't need prisons!

It strikes me as odd that in this modern era where you can not discipline (beat their asses) your kids when they are bad, people bitch about the actions of these little bastards when they commit crimes. All the shooters at these schools ever needed was a good old fashion ass whoopin' way before they got out of control enough to take a gun to school. Jesus, I can't be the only one that sees this chit!

SAVE A CHILD'S LIFE! BEAT HIS/HER ASS WHEN HE'S/SHE'S REALLY BAD OR PUTTING THEMSELVES IN DANGER!

And before the bleedin' hearts chime in... THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEATING A CHILD'S ASS WHEN HE/SHE IS REALLY BAD OR RISKING HARM TO THEMSELVES AND CHILD ABUSE!!!
Cherry red cheeks NEVER killed ANYONE! My Grandfather whooped my ass plenty. And ya know what?! I never once even thought about taking a gun to school! Hell, when I went to school the teachers could beat your ass! And they had that paddle with the holes drilled in it! And don't even get me started on those damned Nuns at the Catholic School!
Hmm, Option A or Option B? Which to choose? I see benefits to both..

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I worry about the idea that the gun will protect people. People protect people. Combat shooting is not target shooting. Paper targets don't shoot back. Hogans Alley is fun, but doesn't compare to almost getting killed. I don't think many teachers will practice with their gun every month (that's what it takes to be ready to fight). Stand in a small room with an airsoft gun in your waistband and let your friend open the door with his airsoft gun already out and see what happens. I think we all get the point now. This is not Hollywood. Anyone who has every really been shot at will tell you it is an undescribable experience to those who have not been. I'm a big believer in School Resource Officers. Spend the money on one.

Forget the media hype. Here are some facts. According to the Safe Schools Initiative which studied school shootings in the US between 1974 and 2000, only 37 incidents occurred in those 26 years. In 2005-2006 only 5 occurred in the US. Compared to the 30,000+ murders that occur in the US every year, this is a rare problem with big media hype. You have a greater chance of being murdered in your own home.
The issue here is more of the deterrent factor, most of these cowardly little shits wouldn't try something like this if they knew there was a good chance a few teachers were packing. SRO's are a good start, but fairly easy to overcome, look at Columbine, he was the first one shot! Now the BG has another gun, and the teachers and students have no way to defend themselves. BTW, only 5 during 2005-2006? Well, thats only 5 too many!
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I believe several on here have mentioned and agree with ccain when it comes to the parents need to start disciplining their children and becoming responsible for their child's action whether it be at school,home,or even at the mall. And again agreeing with ccain on the mention of most parents not whipping their kids ass. Mostly (and I've heard it a thousand or more times) because they are afraid of being in trouble with the law for hitting the little $hit for any reason. And yes get them off the tv, computer, video games or what ever and spend time with them you would be amazed at the difference it can make. One last thing Joe Dirt is 100% right it is totally different when being shot at trust me I can vouch for that. Now hows this for a thought...... lets turn all public schools into military academies (Wow almost what the other guy said).

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