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Old 03-17-2008, 12:01 AM   #1
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hand held spotlight

does anyone use a hand held spotlight??

maybe something like this:
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i bought a cheapo one last year from Circuit City and honestly it only lasted 3 uses! haha oh well, Im a true believer in that "you get what you pay for"

why i ask is because this thing has saved my a$$ more than once driving at night down out of the mountains here in utah.

my buddy manned the spotlight while i drove. he was going from one side of the road to the other, and i know if we didnt have that thing, i woulda hit a deer. we saw at least 5 different sets of em on the edge of the road as we came down the 15-20 mile stretch from where we were fishing.

yes i know, a nice set of after market lights wouldve helped, but that wasnt the case, i didnt have them.

so im wondering, does anyone here use a hand held spotlight? and if so, what brand you use? and would you recommend it?

ive heard Pelican makes a nice product. ??

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yeah i use one on my CJ, idk what brand or anything since its in maine, but it works real nice

wow thats really unhelpful
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I have this nice Black & Decker spotlight... OMG it is soo bright. Its like having a car's headlight in your hand. The really nice thing is, I can plug it into an extension cord here at the house or use the adapter in the Jeep to charge it.

I like to use it to spot Elk in the yard.
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Yea I have a handheld spot light.

Its called a Surefire, and it sits in my pocket EVERYWHERE I go, every single day, just like my Benchmade

I carry an L4 (100 lumens on light, LED, 1 hour full power, 5 hours usable I believe) takes 2 lithium ION 123A batteries. I also HAD a cheaper G2 LED that was 80 lumens for a LONG time. Someone aparently liked it more than I did, it was stolen during a party at my house while I was carrying my L4..Don't remember the specs, but from personal use it seemed a few (2-3 hours) full power, and atleast 8 hours usable. Also takes 2 123As. My buddy carries a L2, which is low power (15 lumens i think) and full 100 lumens. Run time is about equal with full power to the L4, and VERY long on low. takes 2 123As.

the L4 is more of a flood light, but definatly throws. It is AS bright as my E code IPF headlights with fatboy bulbs. By that, I mean that I can tell when I turn it out pointing out the window, it doesn't get washed out by the headlights. It has saved my butt a few times, especially when my headlights went out one night after my buddy messed up my hardtop wiring kit. Made it home just fine only using that flashlight. The G2 was more of a thrower. It did not flood as much, but it did do a good job. It was more of a spot, does a respectable job to the sides, throws a VERY long distance (used it to play hide an seek with a buddy in an abondoned building. He sat in a window, hit him with the light from over 1/2 mile away. Saw him in the window on the third floor very clearly, and he was wearing a black shirt and MultiCam hat... at 2 am, almost no moon!)

Indestructible is an understatement. Surefire has flashlights in their personal musem that have been shot and still function. Theres even a recorded case where a perp shot at a police officer, who was carrying a surefire. He had it next to his neck, like most LEOs, perp hit the flashlight (aiming for head I guess). Flashlight took the bullet, saved the guys life. Best part is, the flashlight still worked and he was able to call backup and help aprehend the guy. surefire replaced the flashlight for free after it was shot also. They have lifetime warranties, amazing customer service.

Comparing a surefire to any maglight, even the 4D cell ones, is a joke. Heck, my buddy even owns one of those large handheld 2 million candle watt things, and its still a tough call...except mine fits in my pocket and I can swap out 2 batteries in the time it takes you to light a cigerette, rather than charge for hours..

sorry if I came off strong, I just REALLLY love their lights, and could not live without them. anytime someone discusses flashlights or anything I have to chime in. My surefire has saved my butt more than a few times, and I will never leave my house without one. It also has the added bonus of temperarily blinding someone (loose their night vision) for long enough to either react or run.
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I have the SureFire G2. It's their low end light but does the trick. Fit well on my M-4. I wish I had access to the spotlights we carried on our gun trucks. Super bright with a focused beam. You could put a 2 foot wide beam of light on a house over a half mile away. With the pin-point beam we burned a hole in some paper at 10 feet. It was cool.
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I used the G2 for 2 years in the duties of my job, just got tired of shelling out $25 for a 12 pack of batteries every few months. Up graded to a rechargeable stinger http://www.streamlight.com/product/product.aspx?pid=7
I also use the ultra stinger both very bright and compact. I also use the M3 on my G35
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I did this:

It really is as good as it looks, as bright as the million candle power Black and Decker one I have
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Thats cool smeg. I'm going to try it.
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Ya smeg, that does work well. I know buddies that are big into modifying flashlights also. I just opted for the easier, warrantied, light

kg4, you should really try one of their "real" lights, such as an L4 or an L2. Noticably brighter than the G2, with a metal case, and it throws light almost 180 degrees out to the side, as well as throws almost as good as the G2. Very very impressive
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sure fires rock..... we've got some amazing lights we use when coon hunting, but i highly doubt you're lookin to spend that kind of money. honestly, i would reccomend a good 4 cell LED maglite. they rock and are easeir to handle than a bulky spotlight can be (depending on what you're using it for). no too mention how sturdy them things are.
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Old 03-18-2008, 12:32 AM   #11
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ok so i can appreciate that surefire makes a great product, ive read that in many other sites. what im not gonna do it drop over $100 for a flash light.

what i was more interested in was a hand held spot light. bulky or not i dont care, its not like i need it attached to my belt. just to have in my truck and jeep when camping/wheeling/fishing at night. i have a couple of mag's also, just looking for more light, regardless of size.
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i just found this guy... a little more than i planned on spending, ($80.00 on amazon.com) but wow 20 million candle power!!




something like this is more what i have in mind, and will be what i end up getting.

so does anyone have any pros cons with actual hand held spot lights like this??
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Did you watch the video? You can have better than that for $10 if you are prepared to do a little work
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so does anyone have any pros cons with actual hand held spot lights like this??
The downside to that is that it's huge and uses a small motorcycle battery to power it.
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The downside to that is that it's huge and uses a small motorcycle battery to power it.
No I think thats th F150 Version.....


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oh wow... why did i even bother to ask?

nevermind!!
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spanky, i've got a light very similar to that but picked it up at sams for $40. its nice bc it can run off a cigarette lighter plug. and can aslo actually charge a cell phone from it (guess you could up anything that will run off a cig lighter plug). it has a hi and low beam, the hi is unbelievable and it has the triple led built into the handle for walking or when the spot isnt needed. it is however bulky and heavy, esp for someone holding out out the window while your driving. their arm would tire very quickly. it does have a shoulder strap for it but honestly its not much of a help..... advanced auto also has out a light that is made the same but i believe its only 17million CP. but only about $30 if i'm not mistaken
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oh wow... why did i even bother to ask?

nevermind!!
Spanky If we didn't razz ya you would not feel welcome....But realy the link has some good prices and the same light i think you posted for like $69.00 just having some fun.
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haha no i hear ya. i saw the site, and yes it did have some decent prices.

as much as i would love to buy a surefire, the lady friend would kill me though.
think i gotta stick with a spotlight for around $50 or less.

this isnt at the top of my to buy list, so thats why im not looking to spend alot.
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haha no i hear ya. i saw the site, and yes it did have some decent prices.

as much as i would love to buy a surefire, the lady friend would kill me though.
think i gotta stick with a spotlight for around $50 or less.

this isnt at the top of my to buy list, so thats why im not looking to spend alot.
http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/...4460/sesent/00

Composite, not metal, and its a spot, not a flood light, but I loved mine $65
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I did this:

It really is as good as it looks, as bright as the million candle power Black and Decker one I have

I made one today, but the damn thing blew the new Radio Shack bulb, and the original bulb, any ideas? Thanks, Scooby
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ok let me ask all of you people here who seem to have raging hard-ons for the surefire lights:

what im thinking of buying is about $50 give or take.
its gonna put out around maybe 3 million candlepower.
i want it to easily put out a distinct light at 100 yards.
from personal experience with these spots im talking about (like in the pic at the top of this thread) these will do that.

are you guys telling me that these tiny little flashlights are going to outperform what im thinking of getting?

also:
i couldnt find any equations (i didnt search terribly hard though) that will tell me what exactly a "candlepower" is versus a "lumen" all the surefire lights are measured in lumens from what ive seen so far. and these big spotlights are measured in candlepower.
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Like I said, someone stole my G2, all I have left it my L4. If you can wait it out a few days, I would be happy to take some pics of my L4 hitting an abondanded building at night from 100 yards away. As I said before, my L4 is more of a flood light than a spot, it "cones" VEYR well, but yes, I can still see someones head clearly in a window from 100 yards. The G2 LED was even better for that, because it was more of a spot/focused beam, not a flood. You could certainly pin point a window from 100 yards with the g2 LED.

Its going to be VERY hard to get a candlepower rating for a surefire. 1. LEDs are rated different than incandecents, and a lot of companies rate LEDs higher. Meaning, they say 100 lumens, but its really equivilant to a 30 lumen incandecent. Surefire on the other hand, UNDER rates their LEDs, garunteeing the 100 lumen LED will be atleast equal to the 100 lumen incandecent.

2. Lumen and candlepower are 2 completely different means of measuring light, with Lumen being much more accurate. If I remember correctly, Lumen is the amount of light measured in a condensed area, while candlepower is the amount of light output compared to the inside sphere of a flame or something to that effect. Lumens are much more accurate in determining how much light you will actually get.

there are many other lights like surefire, such as Streamlight etc., Surefire is just a much supperior light in my opinion. Not to mention, as I said before, Surefires ratings are a little different. A buddy of mine bought a Streamlight rated for 65 lumens I believe, and my buddies regular incandecnet G2 is rated for 65. It was night and day difference.

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are you guys telling me that these tiny little flashlights are going to outperform what im thinking of getting?
Maybe, maybe not, the best way to describe my L4 is "having the sun in your hand," and that has been said by many people that just see the light for the first time. My G2 LED was the same, but again, its a much more condensed spot beam than my L4 is. Not to mention these lights can fit in your pocket all day with you, and instead of recharging a motorcycle battery when it dies, you just pop in 2 more batteries. You can get these 123As at most stores, but Surefire sells the batteries the cheapest. I believe 25 bucks for 12 (2 needed for the lights). Also, the batteries are lithium ion, so they are garunteed a full charge for 10 years if they are sitting in a drawer (thats why they are expensive). Not to mention the no questions asked, life time warrantee

Hold out until saturday, ill get some distance and close up pics friday night with my L4.
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scratch that, my GF is taking the camera tonite to go home and see her mother. Ill take some pics sat night.

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ok well seeing is believing. im not saying that surefire doesnt make a mack daddy product. ive just never had any experience with them. if they really are as sweet as ya'll are making them out to be, well i wont have a choice will i? i will just need to sack up and get one!

haha ok get that video up and let me see!
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My GF left her cannon home by accident. I will do it tonite. I actually went out and got myself a new G2 LED last night from Lowes just for you too. It appears they changed the head. It used to be all plastic, not they use an aluminum head. It appears they changed the light pattern on the G2 with the new head also. It now cones much better, but still throws pretty good for what it is. The G2 and 6P have a temperature overheating circuit which drops the light output from 80 lumens to 65 (G2) or 75 (6p). Now that the G2 has an aluminum head, it should be somewhere around 70 when it warms up, until the regulator cuts out and the batteries begin to drain, which takes a few hours.


I do not know what you want this spot light for, I just do not know anyone that has been happy carrying around a motorcycle battery and headlight, and I know no one that has been disapointed by surefire. Just wanted to give you another option.

Feel free to send me a Pm if you want to bs about what your gonna use it for, and whats best for you. I spend almost as much time messing with flashlights, knives, and firearms, as I do with cars and Jeeps
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I made the video you asked for. I would say out to 50-60 yards it is more than enough. At 100 yards, the light output is enough to identify things, and see animal eyes, but its not going to light them up. As I said in my last post, Surefire changed the head for their cheaper light (G2 LED), and it floods much much more now. Before it was basically a pocket spot, now its basically a cheaper version of their metal tactical lights. Anyway, between having a full moon, and my digital camera getting REALLY distorted trying to see 5 lumens of light at 100 yards, you really cant tell what kind of light output it has out there far. I would guess around 3-5 lumens at 100 yards, and about 70% output at 50 yards. Surefires are built for military, law enforcement, secret service, etc. where they need LOTS of close up and mid range power, so they tend to make their lights "floody" and cone a lot more than regular lights. At the same time, a Surefire can and will temperarily blind someone for a long enough time to either defend yourself or run

So, without further ado, here are my crappy close up, mid range, and 100 yard video. The first flashlight will always be my "control", a regular 2 D cell incandecant. The second will always be the G2 LED that I think will work good for you. The third is my more expensive L4.

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nice video. couldnt really see the long distance ones, but i get the point. they sure pack a punch into those small things.

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Yea, like I said, trying to take a 100 yard video at night, with a flashlight, on a compact digital CAMERA, didn't work too well But you get the idea with the others Glade you got something that works for you though
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Old 03-22-2008, 02:19 PM   #30
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to work on my jeep i use my cheap king craft light (i think it was 20 bucks)... works like charm, the light area can spin around like 270 degrees and can adjust up and down. and uses 2 long bulbs. You can turn them on both at the same time or one at a time and it also has a radio and a fan on it and an LED blinker in the back lol


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