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Old 05-30-2009, 09:11 PM   #1
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"He didn't have to shoot my baby like that,"

Anyone seen this yet? I cannot believe that this type of thing can happen in our country and STILL there are people out there that will vilify the victim and attempt to become the victim in their stead. Makes me sick.

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Old 05-30-2009, 09:22 PM   #2
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That is the same thing when they asked a sargent of a swat team. They shot a man with almost 600 rounds in him when asked why the sargent told the news that was all the bullets they had if they had more they would of put more into him and the house.

So the moral of the story is don't try robbing somebody unless you want to run the risk of dieing. That boy deserved everything he got and more. To his mom saying the guy didn't have to do that well yea he did his life or your worthless sons? I choose his. your son got what he deserved.

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You know, I can understand both sides of this story to a point.

I can understand being scared and pissed and pumping 5 more into that dirtbag criminal.

I can also understand people being upset about that part of it.

I can't understand an organization like the NCCAP saying the BULLCRAP they spout and the mother of that craphead spouting her Al Sharpton crap!

I don't have a "permit" to carry concealed weapons. I have them for enjoyment and just a bit for home protection. I don't really feel the need for "home protection" but if some POS decides to break into my home, he's dead. Gonna call the cops and the cops can call the ambulance. By then...Momma can get on the news and tell the world how her "baby" didn't deserve that, cuz I KNOW I don't deserve it!
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Old 05-30-2009, 10:52 PM   #4
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Here is what pisses me off.

When an armed, lowlife thug goes into the home or business of a hard-working citizen with the intent to commit a crime - be it murder, rape, theft, whatever - and the citizen happens to be armed and defends himself, it doesn't take half an hour until the first TV crew is with the mother of the thug, who is crying about "how he was a good boy" and "they didn't have to shoot him" and that he loved bunnies and little kittycats.

Good kids don't go around robbing, raping and murdering. And they don't have to be shot because they're not a threat to the lives and livelihoods of good citizens.
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There is no difference between dying from 1 gunshot wound or 500 gunshot wounds other than cost to the taxpayer!
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video of the robbery


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i for one think he should not have shot him farther (if he was out)
but the boy does deserve what he prevokes when commiting a crime like that

if someone breaks in my house i am gonna shoot first, then ask questions
but i wont ask questions to the suspect because they will be dead and oozing blood...
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Old 05-31-2009, 04:37 AM   #7
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Nope. You don't get to re-load and then walk back and put five more into a person who is lying unconscious on the ground with a bullet already in his head.

Doesn't really matter what that person did to earn that first bullet to the head. Once he is down and no longer a threat you don't get to execute him.

At least not in this country.
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How do we know that the perp was unconcious? He may have been moving...
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No Justice, No Peace!

The dirtbag got what he deserved. If the robber had lived, he just would have robbed the next joint when he was better. The NAACP will turn this into another Sean Bell story, praising the victim as a "good boy who dropped out of school to run the streets because he was forced into the life of crime because there was no advancement for him". same b-s everytime. turn the cards around and you would hear nothing about this story.
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still doesn't matter how do you know he was out? just because we don't see the gun doesn't mean he was not armed. Those 2 kids put that entire place in danger. The argument that the defence must make is he was scared for his life. He wanted to make sure the kid was not going to get up and hurt him or his staff.
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BTW why doesn't the second suspect face attempted murder charge(s). He pointed the gun with intent to do harm. He put a minor at risk by the minor helping in these robberies.
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Im all for self defense, but reading the article, the clerk felt safe enough to turn his back on the person he shot and go looking for another gun. Just doing that shows that fear for his life was no longer his primary concern
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BTW why doesn't the second suspect face attempted murder charge(s). He pointed the gun with intent to do harm. He put a minor at risk by the minor helping in these robberies.
Because he and his buddies are looking at murder 1.



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Jevontia Ingram, the 14-year-old boy accused of wielding the gun in the robbery, was arrested Thursday. The district attorney on Friday filed a first-degree murder charge against him, as well as against a man accused of being the getaway driver, and another man suspected of helping talk the teens into the crime.

The charges accuse all three of sharing responsibility for Parker's shooting death.
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He got what was coming and then some. His mother needs to shut up, if she would've done a better job at parenting, maybe he wouldn't had been there that that day, commiting that crime.

It's very nice to see that his accomplices, the driver, the gunman, and another "friend" who had talked him into it are getting charged for murder too. I personally like OKs' Make my day law also.

It's obvious that law abiding citizens are getting tired of this crap, people are eventually going to snap. The public support for the pharmicist has been immense. An annonymous person paid his $100,000 bail, and money keeps coming to him for legal fees from all around.
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If the thief was completely still on the floor then the pharmacist probably shouldn't have fired the extra shots. If the thief was moving at all he was still a threat, it takes less than a second to point and fire a gun and the pharmacist had no way of knowing if he was armed.
Don't want to get shot? don't try robbing people, it's pretty simple and if these things happened more often there would be less crime. I've got no sympathy for criminals, they choose to take the risks.
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Could go either way on this. really need to know what the kid was doing if anything on the floor. If he was out cold, then pumping those 5 shots into him might be a problem. If he was attempting to get up, and cause harm then perhaps okay.
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Nope. You don't get to re-load and then walk back and put five more into a person who is lying unconscious on the ground with a bullet already in his head.

Doesn't really matter what that person did to earn that first bullet to the head. Once he is down and no longer a threat you don't get to execute him.

At least not in this country.
Gonna play devils advocate on this one. Extra 5 rounds were over-kill to me. He walked right by the guy to get the second gun. Fist shot is justified though, in my opinion.
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That pharmacy employee's (retired military Lt. Col. by the way) mistake was not killing him with the first or second shot. I'm all for people protecting themselves and their property with firearms and I'll be all over anyone who threatens me with one of my 10-12 firearms I have in my house. I'd definitely shoot to kill if I or any of my family is feeling threatened. But for him to go reload and return to pump more rounds into into that POS if he was no longer moving and no longer a threat, that was a mistake and I don't believe he should have done that. Kill or incapacitate the threat but once he's incapacitated as it appears that POS was, it's over and it's time to wait for the cops. Stop the threat and then stop afterwards. But if it were me, it likely would have been a double-tap or triple-tap and it'd be all over... and none of this would have been an issue.
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I am going to role reverse. What if it was a women who shot that boy the first time then pumped 5 more into him? Would you think any different? That is the key, I am surprised the guy walked back by I would of been kicking that douche bag too then grabbed the gun.
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It will likely be the pharmacist's burden to prove he was in fear for his life. No problem on the initial shots fired - more of a problem on the shots fired outside chasing the BG that ran away - gonna need the world's best attorney to prove it on the last shots to the downed BGs gut.

Personally - I have little problem with what he did. Kid got what he deserved - "ya play ya pay" and all that. The law however is another story. I think the guy is looking at big trouble.
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Well the coroner said the kid was still alive after the first shot. That the 5 more pumped into his gut are the fatels. Well that tells me he did his mommy a favor for not making her go replace his spot in line for getting the family money for his medical bills. Heaven forbid somebody actually has to work one of these days to live.
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Old gus I agree with you on the the shots he fired outside are worse then him making sure the kid was dead. I might have shot him in the knee caps or arms but he would of gotten the last of my bullets.
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Old gus I agree with you on the the shots he fired outside are worse then him making sure the kid was dead. .
I didn't mean to imply that was the worst of his troubles. I think putting the finishing touch on the kid might get him a murder charge, which would likely be worse than whatever charges he might get for shooting at the fleeing BG.

Anyway you look at it - he's got some serious 'splainin' to do.
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See maybe it is just me but I see nothing wrong in what he did.
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See maybe it is just me but I see nothing wrong in what he did.
I agree to a point, which is why I said:
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The law however is another story. I think the guy is looking at big trouble.
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I agree totally that the law will have a lot of bearing on what happens to our pharmacist in the aftermath.

My HOPE is that based on his character and his past he gets off even easier than 95% of the scumbags that are out shootin' up and robbing the world and getting the hand slap until the 3rd strike (at which point they get 75 to life for stealing pizza and the Al Sharpton's of the world unite around his "unjust" punishment).

I don't know how bad the head shot was but if he was bleeding good, I would have just taken my sweet time calling the police (police, not ambulance).
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My HOPE is that based on his character and his past he gets off even easier than 95% of the scumbags that are out shootin' up and robbing the world... [snip]
X2!!

But my FEAR is that he'll get some liberal judge and jury that don't think we have the right to defend ourselves with lethal force when faced with it and make an "example" of him. Then in the aftermath of his unfortunate verdict the liberal media and politicians will spin it and use it as "proof" that gun owners are EEEvil people looking to kill someone.

We need to watch how this plays out.
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I think that poor guy is screwed in court!

Too bad the neighborhood didn't just get a rope.
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Dammit. Joe, I hope you're wrong but I think you're right.
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