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Old 05-22-2013, 02:46 PM   #1
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Holy ####!!!

I apologize in advance, this is not a technical matter.
But this my friends is why I left both the Army, and the UK.......

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'Shooting' in Woolwich, South-east London - police close streets | The Sun |News

I know a lot of the guys at that barracks, and have served with them in the past. I dearly hope that it is none of them, but yet to hear.

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Old 05-22-2013, 02:48 PM   #2
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Unfortunately, I still live here. I am ex forces myself and until our governments and politicians stop all this politically correct human rights crap, this is only going to get worse.

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Old 05-22-2013, 02:55 PM   #3
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That's messed up. UK have the death penalty?
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Messed up is exactly what this is. Lucky it didn't happen here in the states or they'd be trying to outlaw meat cleavers and machetes.
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Unfortunately, I still live here. I am ex forces myself and until our governments and politicians stop all this politically correct human rights crap, this is only going to get worse.
In the words of my father; more chance of your arse healing up.
I'm shocked, but not surprised.

And no, no death sentence in the UK. Just life at the taxpayers expense in a luxury prison cell......
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I just saw this on reddit. Does anyone know why? was it an attack on a random soldier? wrong place wrong time? Im trying to wrap my head around how someone can do something so brutal in the middle of the street..... holy crap.
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When we get all the PC forms here asking me to state my 'ethnic origin', I always reply "Native Englishman"

I served in the Armed Forces, then served in the Fire Brigade until I was injured. Now I have to stand by and watch these arseholes ruin the country I love. If I stand up and speak out, I am branded a racist and prosecuted.

I am no longer allowed to be proud to be English.
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I just saw this on reddit. Does anyone know why? was it an attack on a random soldier? wrong place wrong time? Im trying to wrap my head around how someone can do something so brutal in the middle of the street..... holy crap.
There's nothing random about it. It was totally pre-meditated. They waited for the police to arrive, and stood there with the weapons in their hands while the police shot them.

That was probably so they can say the cops only shot them because they are Muslim. And you can bet your life some do-Gooder will say the police used excessive force.
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Now if they tried that shit in TX, I guarantee you wouldn't have needed to wait 20 minutes for cops to put some bullets in those assholes. California on the other hand... we're no better off.
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Damn shame these people do this crap to innocent un-armed people I don't know what the hells wrong with them.

Could anyone figure out what that guy was saying in the video?
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Damn shame these people do this crap to innocent un-armed people I don't know what the hells wrong with them.

Could anyone figure out what that guy was saying in the video?
The usual fundamentalist crap about our troops killing people in his country.

I can't remember the last time our troops were in Somalia or Central Africa. He probably isn't intelligent enough to know where he was born anyway..
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that is horrible.

but not to be mean but here is the section you should have posted this in...

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Now if they tried that shit in TX, I guarantee you wouldn't have needed to wait 20 minutes for cops to put some bullets in those assholes. California on the other hand... we're no better off.
All those bystanders and no one was armed, Piers Morgan will be proud of this.
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All those bystanders and no one was armed, Piers Morgan will be proud of this.
I would have used any available object. In particular my car..... I just don't see why people didn't think of that. Or maybe that's just me, I'm used to thinking rationally in tough situations, being shot at, mortared, bombed and rpg'd..... been there done that shit. Sure as hell I wouldn't stand by and see one of our own hurt like that without a fight. I would have intervened or died trying. Like I said, maybe that's just me.
It makes me sad and angry to see this. What makes it worse is people blaming the current PM, like it wasn't anything to do with the jerks before him who let this kind of people flourish. It really is a sad state of affairs when, as someone who gives life and limb as a soldier does, you cannot walk down the street in your own country without being abused or attacked.
You fight back, you get branded racist. It's BS of the highest order. F### racism, I don't care if your Jewish, Jedi, pink green or friggin blue, if you shit all over the country that has provided you sanctuary then you should get what you deserve.....

Yeah I realize it should have gone in off topic, that's why I apologized in advance, I rarely leave the TJ forum.....
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@ Darren and @ General -

your comrades in arms here in the US thank you for your service and your valor.

As an American - I'm proud of the heritage and legacy that Britain gave to us that enabled us to become a self governing country despite those two little spats in 1776 and 1812. As long as the idea of England remains alive in the hearts of people like you - there's always hope.

Finally- cheers to the bravery of the bystander who managed to keep the attackers occupied while the police closed in. I hope she is rewarded for her bravery.
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It's crap like this that makes me happy I live in a place where I'm allowed to carry a firearm to protect myself.
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The lad killed was one of my Regiment: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2263...ocation=stream
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The lad killed was one of my Regiment: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2263...ocation=stream

Truly disheartening. Send those pricks across the pond, there are plenty of trees and rope over here.
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I wonder what Piers Morgan has to say about this?
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I just read a story on this. The attackers waited after they killed the soldier and spoke to those around them asking to have their pictures taken. The only person they let check on the victim was the women. This is a test to see what the public reaction will be and they got just what they wanted. Kill a man is the streets and no one comes to help. Sadly their will be more until the Brit's wake up and start defending themselves.
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Totally messed up!!!!
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I would have used any available object. In particular my car..... I just don't see why people didn't think of that. Or maybe that's just me, I'm used to thinking rationally in tough situations, being shot at, mortared, bombed and rpg'd..... been there done that shit. Sure as hell I wouldn't stand by and see one of our own hurt like that without a fight. I would have intervened or died trying. Like I said, maybe that's just me.
It makes me sad and angry to see this. What makes it worse is people blaming the current PM, like it wasn't anything to do with the jerks before him who let this kind of people flourish. It really is a sad state of affairs when, as someone who gives life and limb as a soldier does, you cannot walk down the street in your own country without being abused or attacked.
You fight back, you get branded racist. It's BS of the highest order. F### racism, I don't care if your Jewish, Jedi, pink green or friggin blue, if you shit all over the country that has provided you sanctuary then you should get what you deserve.....
Amen, that video makes my blood boil! I don't care if I had to resort to using a rolled-up newspaper or my Jeep key, the will to fight is in your heart, not in the available weapon at hand....I'd happily accommodate his desire for martyrdom, cuz I can guarantee what he finds on the other side ain't what he's expecting!

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