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Old 08-10-2009, 09:28 AM   #1
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Holy rap C.A.R.S. program + govt takes over your computer

holy crap, someone told me this earlier, i didn't know what they were talking about. this is nuts, obama is an evil person


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That Is really messed up. I can't believe that is real. Completely Legal that is some B/S

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Old 08-10-2009, 09:50 AM   #3
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same thing w/ skype to i guess, i had a friend tell me to get it....no way.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:52 AM   #4
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Really I have Skype haven't used it yet dang this Government is really going down hill
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But hey, "if you've got nothing to hide" right?

Pfft.

Scary stuff, as usual. Thank you big government.
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I'm skeptical that this is a threat to private individuals. The dealers are the ones to log on to the site to complete the 20 pages of paperwork for CARS. By taking the government's (taxpayers) money in this program, there must be some type of accountability. What government agency has the manpower, resources, skill to monitor every car dealership in the country to be sure they are not abusing the system? Once a report of fraud has been made regarding the program, the authorities would be able to seize the information in the dealer's computer to see what they are up to. It says that after the application is complete and the submit button is pushed the privacy information comes up. It also indicates that the access to the computer is while you are logged into to the CARS site.

I don't believe everything I hear on FOX!!!

But no, I wouldn't log on PERSONALLY to the system!!!
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^ i can agree to some extent, but again, how far is government going to get into businesses.

so they use this program to help the dealers sell cars, and now they have complete control and access to every piece of info of that dealer's, and not that we all aren't already there, but the one's who buy these cars are now in that group also.
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I'm skeptical that this is a threat to private individuals. The dealers are the ones to log on to the site to complete the 20 pages of paperwork for CARS. By taking the government's (taxpayers) money in this program, there must be some type of accountability. What government agency has the manpower, resources, skill to monitor every car dealership in the country to be sure they are not abusing the system? Once a report of fraud has been made regarding the program, the authorities would be able to seize the information in the dealer's computer to see what they are up to.

But no, I wouldn't log on PERSONALLY to the system!!!
While I agree that it's probably not a threat to private individuals, I would say that it lays the foundation for some very frightening stuff for the future. I'm not naive enough to think that the Obama administration is any less or more Orwellian than any previous ones, but it seems that with each passing administration we lose a little more freedom in exchange for better security (in the fiscal or military sense).

And of course, there is a line where you have to trade some freedoms for some security, I'm afraid the groundwork is being laid that will allow a crooked president/administration to remove all liberties and freedoms from the American people under the promise of safety.
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good thing he's too busy right now, but gun control was something obama was all over in illinois. i agree w/ djwilbanks

it is scary stuff, way to similar to socialism and comunism......way too similar.
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Exactly. What's good for the collective, right?

Eventually if you rub the government the wrong way you'll get sent to the proverbial Gulag for indoctrination.

Hopefully not in my lifetime or my children's...
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so i have a question.....

by a dealer participating and taking advantage of this wonderful program to help their sales so graciously provided by our government.....said dealer relinquishes all rights to any privacy of all information to whom ever the government deems worthy of using said information for whatever reason the government deems worthy.....and said dealership has no interest or right to where or who that information is going, or for what purpose it is used.
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Um, yes.

Kinda scary when you consider who owns most of our government's debt... and when you consider that foreign governments lobby our politicians...

It's gettin' crowded in my sky...
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If you people buy into the rhetoric that the likes of Glenn Beck spews out into the main stream media, you are all as guilty as he is!

EVERYTIME you log onto a DOD or Government website that warning comes up and it has for years.

No wonder Glenn Beck didn't use his own computer to show this... He's afraid his child porn will be made public!

Another thing I find suspicious is the fact that the system was "conveniently" overwhelmed and they had to show you what the warning says via "on-screen" demo.
(And here comes the sarcasm in overdrive) We all know that the media would NEVER change anything to fit their agenda (cough-bullshit-cough)
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Meh, I think it's crap.
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I may have came off a bit harsh but damn...

Just because LOLcats have a caption do people actually believe that cats can talk? No.

But people like Glenn Beck are dangerous. They use their uneducated views and personal agenda to shape the country by blathering about on TV and the unwashed masses buy into it.

Do you guys remember being a freshman in college? Do you remember watching people or becoming a person who really didn't have an interest in a certain issue get wrapped up in a cause just for the sake of being involved with something? Well it's the same sort of thing. People are quick to jump on the band wagon but nobody wants to drive it! Glenn Beck loves to drive it, the only problem is that he has NO IDEA where he's going. He strikes me as the kind of guy that gets lost in the mall!

They want to whip up a frenzy to SCARE people. And scaring people sells papers and pushes TV ratings, therefore putting money in Glenn Beck's pocket. Yet, he goes on and on about the greed of the government.

I personally would like to feed Glen Beck and the like (slowly, feet first) into a chipper/shredder!
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I may have came off a bit harsh but damn...

Just because LOLcats have a caption do people actually believe that cats can talk? No.

But people like Glenn Beck are dangerous. They use their uneducated views and personal agenda to shape the country by blathering about on TV and the unwashed masses buy into it.

Do you guys remember being a freshman in college? Do you remember watching people or becoming a person who really didn't have an interest in a certain issue get wrapped up in a cause just for the sake of being involved with something? Well it's the same sort of thing. People are quick to jump on the band wagon but nobody wants to drive it! Glenn Beck loves to drive it, the only problem is that he has NO IDEA where he's going. He strikes me as the kind of guy that gets lost in the mall!

They want to whip up a frenzy to SCARE people. And scaring people sells papers and pushes TV ratings, therefore putting money in Glenn Beck's pocket. Yet, he goes on and on about the greed of the government.

I personally would like to feed Glen Beck and the like (slowly, feet first) into a chipper/shredder!
Yes, you're coming off "a bit harsh".

You're right that this is a standard .gov disclaimer and it's been used long before Obama.
The accusation of child porn and wishing harm to him is over the top in my opinion.
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Agreed that this is a very (VERY!) standard disclaimer on all DoD systems. I'm not a fan of Obama and usually like Glenn Beck, but for him to jump directly to the conclusion that the gov't is going to download everything on your system and pretty much own everything in your house is just not right. His form of artistic journalism is one thing, but I don't approve of fear mongering like that.
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so i have a question.....

by a dealer participating and taking advantage of this wonderful program to help their sales so graciously provided by our government.....said dealer relinquishes all rights to any privacy of all information to whom ever the government deems worthy of using said information for whatever reason the government deems worthy.....and said dealership has no interest or right to where or who that information is going, or for what purpose it is used.


Well, the banking boys (and girls) found out very quickly what taking money from the government buys you! They then want a very big say in how you do business!!! If you get yourself into the situation where you need the government to bail you out, you also get the not so desireable consequences of that. I thought all along that the survival of the fitest should have straightened out the real estate/banking mess. I also think it should take care of the automobile bidness!
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Ha, I don't buy into the media hype, haven't for a long time, but it's pretty clear that as the years have progressed being a private citizen has become less private.

Just look at how much stuff Google tracks while you're logged into gmail. Sure you can opt out of a lot of it, but when it will keep history of your web searches almost indefinitely... that's just creepy.

I don't blame any particular president or administration... it's just a symptom of big government.
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it's items like this that the avg. joe aren't aware of, that knocks the breath out of them. It does show you that big brother wants more is still scary, no matter how you look at it. i know that there are some caves you can move into and bury your head, but at some point you will have to come out, and they will still be there. and yes i am a republican and i believe that gov. is just for the security of this land we live on. the rest is just politics, and bleading the moneys from all.
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This is just SNAFU. I doubt "they" are learning anything about us from this program that "they" couldn't have found out about us a hundred other ways. If "they" are that interested in us, "they" already know.

IMO - privacy is a myth.

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