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Old 07-26-2007, 11:35 AM   #1
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How do I convince the wife.....

Here goes. I bought an '06 Unlimited about two months ago. I'm also a father of two girls (one is almost 8, the other is almost 5). Each and every weekday, I take them to daycare before I head into work. They love the Jeep, and on nice days they love the top down and the windows out.

My wife accepts the Jeep, but she certainly doesn't love it. She believes it's ok when the sunrider top is open and the back windows are in, but freaks out with the thought of the girls cruising with the top down and windows out. I have shown her crash test results of my Jeep versus my prior vehicle, and the Jeep scores MUCH better than a Chevy Silverado (believe it or not!). We've had a few weekends without the kids, and when we need to go somewhere I always drive the Jeep topless with the purpose of making her more comfortable in it. But whenever the subject of the family going somewhere with the top down, it gets really chilly.

So I ask the members of WF: How do I convince the wife that the kids are fine in the topless Jeep? I look forward to hearing if anyone else has had the same situation, and what the eventual outcome was.

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Old 07-26-2007, 12:09 PM   #2
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your best bet would be to find crash test footage on the web. show her the roll cage works and if that doesn't do it. make sure you took of the tag that says this top is not a life saving device

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Old 07-26-2007, 12:12 PM   #3
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yeah the top doesnt do anything, think of all the jeeps that were sold stock from the factory with soft tops, they dont do anything to keep you safe it is all the roll bar

but the best way is to just show her the facts and the tag and even go into the dealership, or just do what your doing and keep making her comfortable with it
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She's a mom. You're going to have a hard time convincing her. What I would do (being a mom myself who had to convince my youngest to ride without the doors) is go somewhere that you can cruise around slow. Go there with the top up and then when you get to the park or whatever ask the girls if they want to ride with the top down.

Make sure you make it sound like the funnest thing in the world. Take it slow, some place you can drive around 25 or 30 miles an hour. Let the girls bring their excitement about the top down to your wife. She'll eventually give in.

I drive with the top and doors off all the time. I have a 10 year old who rides in the back. He was desperately frightened at first, and I took it slow, but now he's totally ok with it.

Your wife is probably afraid and she's transfering the fear onto the kids and using them as an excuse.
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You need to find out what her worries are. The realities are that in an accident stuation, the soft top provides very little protection. it does however, keep things like arms and heads, etc inside the vehicle. Is she worried that the kids will fly out of the open vehicle? If that is the case, you can install grab handles in the back or something like these:





They provide the added security of keeping things (like kids) inside the Jeep if you get into an accident, but also keeps the open air feeling. You can install them under the soft top and just do the sides, or do the whole back of the Jeep.

You can get them here: http://www.allthingsjeep.com/raingler-nets.html

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Old 07-26-2007, 12:30 PM   #6
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show her how strong the roll bar is
and if worst comes to worst
get a bigger one
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:31 PM   #7
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What exactly is she afraid is going to happen? You mentioned that she's ok with the back windows in.....they are plastic.....the top is just material....no real protection with either.

It took me a while to feel comfortable w/o doors....yea, I even thought my 1/2 soft doors were better than no doors, although logically I knew they offered no protection in an accident.

Sounds like your dealing with perception versus logic.......that can be a tough one sometimes. Be patent and provide facts for her.

Thank goodness I'm a logical sort and got rid of my doors!!
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Ask her if her car has a roll cage.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:10 PM   #9
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My kids love riding in it with the top down. I'd say their only complaint being would be hair flying in their faces. Fortunately, we've got what seems like 10,000 scrunchies and that does the trick.

I do believe she's worried about them getting thrown from the vehicle if an accident were to occur. The image posted by Unlimited is a pretty interesting option that I didn't even know was out there. I'll definitely have her take a look at it and see if it would be something she's cool with. Can't say that I like it, but it beats selling the softtop and buying a hardtop, as I believe she wants me to do...


It's like texapple says...perception versus reality. She's getting more receptive the longer I have it, but only because she knows I love it and there's no way it's going anywhere for a long, long time.
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My wife was opposed to no doors on the TJ - no issue with top down at all for her or the kids (but mine are significantly older).

On our WHEELING trip this past weekend, my son and I were in front, and she was in back. We had the doors off and she was okay with it. But she drove it back to the trail head (about a 15 minute drive) with the doors off. I asked her later how she liked the doors off and she said, I totally forgot they were off once I got going.

The key is to show her that the items that she wants for protection are superficial protection at best. If the impact were hard enough, fiberglass or fabric really isn't gonna hold much back. Seat belts or proper car seats for lilun, keeping hands in, and those nets would be your best bets. Take her for a ride with her in the back seat. The uh oh handles will help. With the rear seat sitting up as high as it does in the back, I can see how she'd feel like the kids would fall out. But proper precautions will prevent it from happening.
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:47 PM   #11
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Buy or rent a motorcycle and take her for a ride. She will feel alot safer in the Jeep.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:01 PM   #12
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Buy or rent a motorcycle and take her for a ride. She will feel alot safer in the Jeep.
I have both Jeep and harley!! Nothing is 100% safe I am not allowed to drive on the highways with my nephews in the car.

Jeeps have full roll bars now but even I can't convince my wife that is a really safe SUV.
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I have a motorcycle....

I've had my wife on the back of my quads and motorcycles. It's not about her fear. It's not even about us driving with the top down. It's her fear of having to trust other drivers who may or may not be cognizant when they themselves are behind the wheel.

I can't guarantee that some moron doesn't t-bone me trying to pull into the Wal-Mart parking lot. so the question remains: when you've used every piece of ammo you've got and the results vary so little from the start, what else can you do but wait and hope they eventually change their tune.

Am I right?
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Another thought, get more secure seatbelts for the young'uns. Maybe crossovers or 5 points, so she'll know they'll be secured.
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Help her realize that Jeeps have to pass all of the NTSB highway safety tests including rollover testing. Also explain to her that because of the sport cage they are safer than they would be in the back seat of a convertible car.
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Oh, quit pussyfooting around and just tell her to get over it!!!
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:04 AM   #19
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Dude, on the top, in between the visors, is a Warning sticker. Have her read that, then tell her about all the hunderds of thousands of CJs and Wranglers over time, the people drive in, and have no problems...

The sticker says something to the effect of "The top and doors on this vehicle are not designed to contain the occupants in the event of an accident or roll over, only to protect against the elements." Or something to that effect. Its in your Jeep, so she can't argue


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First strap children into 5 point harnesses, remove windows/doors/top. Winch self over into a rollover and show her everyone is fine. After doing this you will no longer have to worry about it because you can take them in any vehicle you want during your visitation :-) On a more serious note, the members here have given some good advice, find her exact concerns. take steps to address those concerns and make her comfortable with it. This may even involve you giving a little on the matter. As a married man myself I know that can be frustrating, but it is that middle ground that we sort of agreed to with that damn binding contract.
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Dare2BSquare Oh, quit pussyfooting around and just tell her to get over it!!!
Do we know each other? That's a direct quote from me day 2 as a Jeep owner to her....went over like the Hinderberg.

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Deverhart On a more serious note, the members here have given some good advice, find her exact concerns. take steps to address those concerns and make her comfortable with it. This may even involve you giving a little on the matter.
The Sunrider option w/ the side windows in has been the "compromise" thus far. It's a nice option, especially with the frequency of flash t-storms this summer. But if I wanted to cruise like that, it'd make more sense to drive my GN with the T-tops out.


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Replacement back seats by PRP and Mastercraft would really help keep the kids secure, even if you didn't put in a 5 point system for them. Their bucket designs really help keep you snug.
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But if I wanted to cruise like that, it'd make more sense to drive my GN with the T-tops out.
You have a boosted Buick???? Im jealous. When I worked at a speed shop in daytona, one of your customers had a sick Turbo-T.
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She's a work in progress. Needs paint really bad and a professional tune, but it should be good for consistent high 11's with c116.
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So ur ole'ladys issues are with the Jeep only because of the top and doors off? That makes no sence at all. The odds of getting T-boned in the wallmart parking lot have nothing to do with wether you have doors or a top on a vehicle.

Tell her her odds of getting t-boned, PERIOD, while driveing topless, are much greater than yours!
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Oh, quit pussyfooting around and just tell her to get over it!!!
Spoken like someone who either doesn't have kids, istmn't married, or is headed doen the divorce court highway. :chair:
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Spoken like someone who either doesn't have kids, istmn't married, or is headed doen the divorce court highway. :chair:
Got grown kids. Married for 31 years. Perfectly happy.


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