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Old 03-03-2007, 01:01 AM   #1
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how in the hell...do they get elected?

This Washington Senator sucks for OHV users. He's not in my district but I'm doing my best to spread the word about him.


----- Original Message -----
From: Kline, Sen. Adam
To: audaveh@
Cc: Houghton, Bryn
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:49 PM
Subject: RE: Possible NC: SB 5544



Dear Mr. H.,

I signed on because I have been annoyed, endangered, and angered one too
many times by people riding motorized dirt-bikes and other off-road vehicles
that have no damn business anywhere. To me, this bill is narrow--it doesn't
include those "personal watercraft," seemingly jet-powered little missiles
whose only apparent purpose is to risk death and dismemberment for boaters
and swimmers, for the amusement of spoiled drunk teenagers.

Yes, I am sure there is the occasional responsible person who rides one of
these machines on land or water. And yes, like every human being I have
been pleasantly surprized to find my stereotypes broken. But why, why, why,
do folks insist on motorized "sports"? Those two words are an oxymoron.
There is nothing sporting--athletic, physically demanding--about riding any
machine anywhere. And it's a damned annoyance to folks who see the outdoors
as a place to go for quiet and solitude and self-exploration. I would be
happy to ban the use of the internal combustion engine off-road, by anyone
without a handicapped sticker, subject to a stiff fine. Maybe we could call
this an anti-obesity measure.

Please circulate this to all motorized sports enthusiasts, so they can
remember never to vote for me.

Adam Kline





-----Original Message-----
From: audaveh@
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:48 AM
To: Kline, Sen. Adam
Subject: Possible NC: SB 5544

SENATE INTERNET E-MAIL DELIVERY SERVICE

TO: Senator Adam Kline

FROM: Dave H. (Possible Non-Constituent)

STREET ADDRESS:

Renton, WA 98057

E-MAIL:

PHONE:

SUBJECT: SB 5544

MESSAGE:

Senator Kline,

I am curious to know why you would co-sponsor the most discriminatory,
anti-OHV Bill ever proposed?

SB 5544changes would creating maximum sound levels for riding
near any residence, regardless of where that residence is located or how it
is zoned. It would become illegal for my Family to ride our motorcylces and
quads
where they are "plainly audible" from in or adjacent to any residence. This
would even include residences that are on farm land, forest land or in an
industrial area.

One of the few riding area riding areas where it is still legal to ride in
Western Washington is Captial State Forest near Olympia. There are a few
parcels of private property located within the forest. This law, if passed,
would effectively shut this area down. Ditto for the nearby Straddle Line
ORV park.

What really strikes me as absurd about this proposal is race tracks like
Evergreen Speedway in Monroe could host auto races of all types, but any off
road events would be illegal.

In addition, this law would only apply to my dirtbike or quad. It would not

apply to other, more common sources of residential noise such as lawnmowers,

chainsaws, cars, trucks, boats, airplanes, stereos, playgrounds, ballfields,

etc. It is just plain discrimination against Off Highway Vehicle use and
has nothing to do
with keeping neighborhoods quiet.

Off Highway Vehicle recreation is a fun and growing family sport, it would
be nice to see sports that support families embraced by Olympia with more
open riding areas, instead of discriminated against.

I would hope that you drop your support of this legislation.




NOTE: We could not determine that this constituent is in your district

RESPONSE REQUESTED: Dave has requested a response to this message.



For more information:
…on this legislation,
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summ...5544&year=2007

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Old 03-03-2007, 01:06 AM   #2
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send that to everyone you know

if you like to go 4wheeling we all have to unite and try to keep these type of people out of office
or you can go and buy a Honda and put one of those fart pipes on it

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how in the hell...do they get elected?
Fraud, bribes, lies and just general corruption... He's a state senator from a heavely liberal district, just take a look at our last gubernatorial race, the democrats admitted to falsifying the vote and they still get in.

We've been in a fight for out door rights in Washington for years, most of the insanity come from the flaming liberals in the Seattle area.
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Were these emails gathered from credible sources? Do you know this audave@ ? However anti access any government official is I have a hard time believing they would ever write a message like the one posted above.

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"Goober"natorial!
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I have a hard time believing this is legit. I have serious doubts that a Senator, or any other elected official, would discourage anyone from voting for them.

Whoever wrote that has serious anger issues. Can you imagine someone gettin' that pissed just from answering a question?

I think it's a fake.
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I have a hard time believing this is legit. I have serious doubts that a Senator, or any other elected official, would discourage anyone from voting for them.

Whoever wrote that has serious anger issues. Can you imagine someone gettin' that pissed just from answering a question?

I think it's a fake.
Might be a fake, but I would expect a much angrier response if anyone ever asked Carolyn McCarthy to not support a gun control law. It's the only issue she cares about, she has a lousy track record for getting her bills far enough to see a vote on the house floor, but she keeps getting reelected.

A simple email to the Senator, asking if the email is legitimate, might clarify things.
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People like that belong in nursing homes or comunity gated houseing
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"Goober"natorial!
Strange, I just checked it in my spell che... ahhhh "goober"...I get it

I have no idea whether the email is genuine or not, I have no reason to doubt it's legitimacy, we hear these people talk on the radio and TV all the time around here. Actually that email is rather tame compared to some of the nonsense they spew.
This man has no fear of being removed from office over this issue, he's in a firmly democratic district that would fully support such nonsense.

Here's his website if you'd like to ask.
http://sdc.leg.wa.gov/kline.htm

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