back to the geese and waterfowlers. since i'm a little behind on the thread. i just wanted to say this in case any of yall want to get abumper sticker like my buddy has. its a picture of a few ducks flyin and says "waterfowlers shoot heavier loads"
There is also a difference in hunting and killing. Tiny you mentioned feed lots and it got me thinking about the canned hunts you see on the "hunting" shows. They are in fenced areas and the deer are just a little more wild that domesticated cows. That is not hunting to me.
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I can stand on either side of the fence honestly. When I listen to people preach one-sided-my way-you have no rights crap, I can be pro or con very easily.
I listened to a vegetarian potificating about how meat eaters were encouraging cruelty to animals and that we should all take a long look at a feedlot. So I asked her about the milk she had in her shopping cart and the eggs. She answered the animals weren't killed to get those things...... so I explained how there are fates worse than death and anyone who's seen a big chicken farm or industrial sized dairy knows what I'm talking about.
There are shades of grey in everything, bad hunters and lousy animal advocates, mostly it's those who see in black and white.
Like I said, no problem with hunters, but I don't do it because I'm not a fan of game meat and if I won't eat it, I won't kill it. That's why I stopped deep sea fishing. Can't stomach killing something for no reason.
lol. tiny my bow is older than me. so you still got nothing. some1 brings up the topic of hunting and killing. i agree. i'm not a fan of fenced in plantations and stuff like that. i consider myself a hunter. i once heard some1 say and i strongly agree that the southern whitetail is one of the smartest and hardest to hunt animals on the planet. they're so cunning, sleek, and smooth. they can walk up within 5 feet of you stare at you for a few minutes and be gone before you ever knew they were there. my reasoning for thinking i'm a hunter lies in this. i go out to the woods months before season starts. and begin scouting. i look for trails they travel. look for food sources, water sources bedding areas. bottoms. thickets, fields. i break down the woods and analyze them on where i would be and where i'd go and what i'd be doing there if i was a deer. then you have to through in the cover they have. in the south we have pine plantations literally all over the place these thick planted pines provide deer ample places to hide. so i've got to hang my stand in a spot that i can get to without me making too much noise, being seen, and not mention laying down my scent. this brings my next point. wind. when i find a good spot i've got to determine which way the wind will be blowing (generally in my area it comes from the NW) but then i've gotta analyze will the tall planted pines bounce the wind a different direction. will the ridge 200yrds over make the wind go completely over and not be an issue, will the bottom funnel the wind a different direction or cause it to swirl. you've gotta hunt downwind of the deer. then theres several other things to take into accout based on what your hunting (big buck, any buck, doe) i've got several tips on other stuff if any1 wants to know. but basically what i'm sayin is most people hunt like i just described. and are considered hunters. but there are some who just pay big money and go killing. i will give the big names we see on tv credit though. they do know how to hunt, thats how they got where they are. but most have just forgotten their roots
I still say, "It's a hunting thing... you wouldn't understand" to most people. They think you just go out and sit in a tree and shoot something. There are so many things that can go wrong, even if you are in the best spot and are the best prepared you can be. All it takes is one whiff of you and they are gone.
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oh yea. wind is the msot iomportant thing ever. a deer can smell 6ppm(particles per million) i hate people but theres nothin you can do to cover your scent. so you gotta make sure your scent never gets to them.
sorry tiny, grammar aint my strong point.
like D2BS says, its a huntin thing, you wouldnt understand. i think mossy oak said it best when they came up with the slogan "it's not a passion, its an obsession"
i gotta say i also am not a big fan of this fenced in hunting stuff... takes all the challenge outta it... personally i enjoy the time in the woods preparing for a hunt almost as much as the actual hunt.. guess i just like being in the woods away from the city.
the best part about these hunting shows is when theirs a buck 15 yards away from them and there talking about how nice the buck is.. i dont know about yall but i dont see how thats possible with "wild" deer.. just the wrong movie and the slightest sound will make a deer run the other way... much less a conversation with em so close...
I hope that they never take away r deer season all together.. its pretty bad right now but atleast we can still go.. i think really the reason hunters get bad names sometimes is from the people that go out shoot a deer take one specific part of meat off them and leave the rest to root... i belive that if your going to kill a animal all of it should be used.. if not dont kill it to begin with.. well thats my 2 cents.. happy hunting
I need to go to our other property and see what they look like down there. It is farmland with corn and soybeans all around. I'll bet they aren't that slim! These in the pictures are in an area that is very hilly and rocky. Great for wheelin, but not very nutritious food for deer.
We get some rain, we gotta get some plots out!!!
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I'm thinking in any other discussion this would be a good thing.
hehe thats EXACTLY what i though when i typed that... but woundered if anyone would catch it...
here in WV its all hilly and rocky... hard to find some place that hasnt already been cleaned out with timbering too... luckly i live on about 400 acres of land that was timbered about 12 years ago and is making a nice come back now.. considering there is no other place to get onto the logging roads besides in my back yard that isnt blocked off... i can hunt anywhere i want back in there without worry.
few weeks ago i was laying on bed watching tv as a Nice mature 8 point walked within 15 feet of my house... if i could find him in a stand would be the deer id want this year... had one of the best racks for a 8 point iv seen. Hunting never goes the way ya hope though...
nice lookin raks on them deer. i love the way velvet looks on pictures for some reason. some of them deer still look to be young and will probably grow a few more horns. i might would only shoot one of them this yr. but its hard to tell with em all bein so skinny