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Old 09-21-2010, 09:17 PM   #31
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I think the s10 will do okay, but I mean who knows.

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These two guys may both end up stuck or even doing a Chadwick!

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get it straight its a Colorado
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:25 PM   #34
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These two guys may both end up stuck or even doing a Chadwick!
Don't bet on it. He likes the water. Not I.
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get it straight its a Colorado
Not helping ur case!!


We'll definitely take pics. Unless he pulls me out. Then all iPhones will be destroyed.
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Is it a straight 5 or a V5?
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The other cylinder fell off.
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I view it more of as a 4 cylinder with a growth... it is quite an amazing engine that does nothing well.... all the power and glory of a stout 4 cylinder and the fuel economy of a 3/4 ton w/ a V-8 gas engine. But with it I have had just about every configuration of gas engines from a rotary upto and including v-8's... all seriousness though I kinda like it (for a GM product). it's quirky enough to keep me interested now.
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guess who makes hummer? See the 7 slot grill on the hummer. Yes its true. the army told jeep that the wrangler was to small, so jeep designed the hummer for the army.
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I am looking forward to find out what happened in the end and also see pics.
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guess who makes hummer? See the 7 slot grill on the hummer. Yes its true. the army told jeep that the wrangler was to small, so jeep designed the hummer for the army.
Uhhhhhhhhh........I have a space shuttle for sale on eBay if you're interested in that too.......
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Source:Background | HMMWV (Humvee) | AM General LLC - Mobility solutions for the 21st Century
HMMWV Background

In the late 1970s, the U.S. Army found it needed a better performing vehicle to replace a number of vehicles then in use. The specially-designed M561 Gama Goat used in many operations had proved unsatisfactory, and there were problems with payload limitations and safety characteristics of the M151-series Jeeps and civilian trucks adapted for military use. The Army sought a new jack-of-all-trades light tactical vehicle that could fulfill all the mission requirements of light civilian trucks and various specially designed Army vehicles.
Thus the concept for the High Mobility Multi-purpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) family was born…on paper. Its history began in 1979 when the U.S. Army issued a draft specification for a new tactical vehicle to replace all the tactical vehicles in the one fourth- to 1╝-ton range.
Many of the vehicles the HMMWV was to replace were not meeting the military mission requirements. At this time, the average age of the vehicles the HMMWV was to replace ranged from 10 to 20 years. It would take an additional six years before production vehicle deliveries actually began.
The military looked for a family of versatile, technologically advanced, cross-country vehicles capable of performing both combat and combat-support roles. The basic chassis was to be capable of being modified into a number of variants. It was also to be diesel-powered, consistent with the Army's desire to use diesel fuel throughout its tactical vehicle fleet, and it was to have an automatic transmission.
Prototypes

AM General became one of three contenders that were awarded an Army contract for the design and construction of 11 prototype HMMWVs (six weapons carriers and five utility vehicles). The other firms were Chrysler Defense and Teledyne Continental.
Overall, HMMWVs were tested for more than 600,000 miles over rugged courses simulating worldwide off-road conditions in combat environments. They were driven over rocky hills, through deep sand and mud, in water up to 60 inches deep, in desert heat and Arctic cold.
Complicated production proposals were required. Winning the contract was based on a combination of the most technically qualified and most cost-effective five-year production bid.
Contract Awarded

In March 1983, AM General was awarded the initial production contract for 2,334 HMMWVs. This was the first increment of a five-year contract for nearly 55,000 HMMWVs. These were produced in 15 different configurations over the term of the contract. Of these vehicles, 39,000 were for the U.S. Army and the remainder was divided between the Marine Corps, U.S. Air Force and Navy.
Production began at AM General's Mishawaka, Ind. plant in the fall of 1984 and the first deliveries were made early in 1985. The total production by mid-1991 was more than 72,000 vehicles including international sales.
Follow-on multi-year contract awards called for more than 33,000 vehicles. By March 1995, approximately 100,000 HMMWVs had been built. An additional 20,000 units were ordered by more than 40 international governments since 1991. To date, more than 190,000 units have been produced.
During late 2000, AM General was awarded another production contract for 2,962 trucks in the M998A2 series. The contract contained six single-year options running to FY07.
In 2007, this contract was extended to run through 2009. To date more than 85,000 trucks have been ordered under the contact awarded in 2000.
i didn't want to believe it either.
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Uhhhhhhhhh........I have a space shuttle for sale on eBay if you're interested in that too.......
Don't buy it! he's got the thing smack in the middle of some prime real estate in the Lousiana swamps. I got stuck trying to get to the space shuttle when I bought it.

He then offered to sell me all the land, he said it was the best real estate in all the country, but I don't think I believe him.
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I don't pretend to be a genius but a military HMMWV is a far cry from a civilian H3. Sure a Humvee will do better than a Jeep, thats what it was engineered for. But will a Hummer out perform a Jeep? IMO no.
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Old 09-22-2010, 03:41 PM   #44
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The more uneven the terrain, the better your TJ will do. The flatter the terrain, the better the H3 will do.
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An H1 is a joke too....big, wide, underpowered. They can't even get to the trails a wrangler can.
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The more uneven the terrain, the better your TJ will do. The flatter the terrain, the better the H3 will do.
Thank ya Jerry. I'm not certain there is anything big or bad enough to get either of us stuck. unless he decides to go into the deeper mud/water...(I won't be going in there).

But it will be fun all the same, so I'm just looking forward to seeing what that ugly box can do.
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I like H1's...there is a quite a difference between them and the H2, H3's
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An H1 is a joke too....big, wide, underpowered. They can't even get to the trails a wrangler can.
An H1 can pretty much make it's own trail.
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Hmmm, I've actually been looking at space shuttles lately. Is there a reserve on it?
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Thank ya Jerry. I'm not certain there is anything big or bad enough to get either of us stuck. unless he decides to go into the deeper mud/water...(I won't be going in there).

But it will be fun all the same, so I'm just looking forward to seeing what that ugly box can do.
What's your saying Ben? Go Big or Go Home... it applies here.
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Hmmm, I've actually been looking at space shuttles lately. Is there a reserve on it?
It's the space shuttle Discovery. Reserve is REAL LOW.
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An H1 can pretty much make it's own trail.
Seriously? They don't have enough HP to hurt themselves much less blaze a trail. I have seen tons of them stuck in stuff a stock JK or TJ would roll right through.
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Seriously? They don't have enough HP to hurt themselves much less blaze a trail. I have seen tons of them stuck in stuff a stock JK or TJ would roll right through.
I agree 100%

I've driven many HumVees in the Army and they're gutless. They're too wide to take on any real fun, tight trail. They're a compromise. The platform is made to be used in dozens of different applications. They do a lot of things, but they don't do anything real well. The armored ones have their benefits, though. One saved my life. Can't beat that.
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I agree 100%

I've driven many HumVees in the Army and they're gutless. They're too wide to take on any real fun, tight trail. They're a compromise. The platform is made to be used in dozens of different applications. They do a lot of things, but they don't do anything real well. The armored ones have their benefits, though. One saved my life. Can't beat that.
The way you put that is too damn hilarious. I don't have much experience with them, other than talking with friends who served...and based on all the reviews I've heard they are a "jack of all trades, decent at many things, good at nothing".

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What's your saying Ben? Go Big or Go Home... it applies here.
I was looking up how to hook a tow strap to H3 OEM shackles...I figure I'll need to know how. apparently you won't be pulling me out of anything, even if I do get stuck...as it will be detrimental to your drivetrain. (per hummer forums)
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I've got tow loops all over damn place. I'll just hook my tow hitch up to yours. Then pull you out
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Gettin' pretty deep in here. We're going to need pics, you know......lots and lots of pics.
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Indeed. I have to replace my water pump. ( its sad) But after that it's game on. Prolly gonna tackle that next sat.
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We'll get him stuck. I promise.

You have the advantage in wheelbase, that's your Jeeps best asset against his Hummer. I'm sure I can find something out there to get him hung up on. I'll bring the tow straps and you bring the tissue paper.

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