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Old 06-21-2010, 09:05 PM   #1
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Well, I do not know how many of you guys know this, or care as much as me, but there is something you should know about BP. Where the oil is spilling in the ocean there are multiple species of turtles including one endangered species. These turtles are getting caught in the booms, and when they are full of oil, BP burns them, with the turtles still caught in the boom. So basically these turtles are being burned alive and BP is preventing anyone from saving them because it is too much of a hassle for BP. Here is the link to the video that further explains it:



If there is anyone on the forum here that lives on the coast, can you please tell me an agency where I can volunteer? I live in Atlanta but I am willing to drive anywhere to help. I have worked in a vet clinic for four years so I have some experience with animals. I can not sit here while animals are literally suffocating to death. Thank you for reading this

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I live in New Orleans. I have not heard of any volunteer projects. BP and the Govt. do not want the news to get out that this is BAD! Volunteers will spill the beans. Come down and get a job on one of the boats and work your way to the rescue effort. Due to hazards dealing with the oil they won't take volunteers. Or contact Plaquemines Parish Govt. and inquire. I may be wrong but the only news we get is the national news.

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I believe the Audubon zoo here in new orleans is helping clean and take care some of the animals.....
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I'm in palm beach. On the Local news there is a group that is cleaning up sea turtles. They have it down to 15 minutes a turtle (small) and 25-30 min for big ones. They are using mayonause (spelled right?) to clean thier eyes. It does not hurt them and it cuts away at the oil real quick. I will try to find out more and give it to you. Just latley I used white shoe polish and have written on my jeeps back window "BP & AMACOO BLOWS". i HAVE BEEN GETTING alot of horn blowin....
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I'm in palm beach. On the Local news there is a group that is cleaning up sea turtles. They have it down to 15 minutes a turtle (small) and 25-30 min for big ones. They are using mayonause (spelled right?) to clean thier eyes. It does not hurt them and it cuts away at the oil real quick. I will try to find out more and give it to you. Just latley I used white shoe polish and have written on my jeeps back window "BP & AMACOO BLOWS". i HAVE BEEN GETTING alot of horn blowin....
I can agree with your sentiments but I certainly hope that's not how you spelt AMOCO on the back of the Jeep.
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Wow...funny (in a twisted, non-humorous sort of way) that if people mess with an endangered species...they can get large fines, if not jail time. But because BP is a huge, rich, company...they're allowed to kill off as many as they deem "necessary" to accomplish their goals and save more money in the end (the faster they clean this mess up...the less they shell out in cleanup efforts).

On that note...as a reptile guy, I am obviously all for helping out the wildlife, especially sea turtles any way possible...but please be sure to talk with the local department of fish & wildlife where you are trying to help these animals out...find out what kind of procedures they want done and find out if they're okay with you helping out if you choose to do so on your own...the last thing you want to do is get fined or thrown in jail for messing with a protected/endangered species without obtaining their permission first.

Our local BP station recently switched over to selling Shell gasoline (privately-owned...he claims it was a personal choice to switch to Shell and has nothing to do with the oil spill...yeeeeah, right. lol).
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Keep in mind when reading the title of this thread BP is half owned by American companies. I'm not defending BP, but it's easy to vent our rage at BP when the issue is way more complex. Why not the tree huggers who fought to "save" the pristine fields of barren Alaska wilderness which has vast oil reserves and is not miles beneath the ocean ? Why not the Obama administration which.....I better stop now.

Sorry. I think I'll go take a ride in my jeep now.
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I have no problem going to New Orleans. My family used to own a house there. I might also try to go down to Mobile, Alabama because we still have a house there. I also know its our governments fault too because both sides are trying to get the other to do all the work. It just makes me so mad knowing BP has had a big hand in not just this oil spill, but they also had a hand in the spill in Alaska. It was their oil that spilled there, but know one knows that because the govermnment forgot to mention them in the official report. You would think they would at least have a better plan the second time around.
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Hey all,

I am in Destin Fl, and too my knowledge only BP, the Gov. and a few selected groups are allowed to mess with the oil and animals. I will give props to the county for telling the Gov. and BP that they will take care of the clean up here and the protection of the Bay. See the story on the North West Florida Daily news. It was pretty good.
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I can agree with your sentiments but I certainly hope that's not how you spelt AMOCO on the back of the Jeep.
LOL, No that was a mispell on my part. I spelled it right on the rear window. As for the sea turtles, I took my son and Dad out fishing this morning out the Palm Beach inlet. We were about 3-6 miles out fishing. No oil in sight. Prestine Open clear blue water. The surf was rough= 4foot swells. So i figured if there was any oil out there we would deff. see some with all the roughness. We did see two HUGE sea turtles swim right up to us. We caught 31 fish in about 2 1/2 hours. (Cobia/king fish/yellow tail & red snapper/ trigger fish/ and some grouper that we threw back. Dinner was great!!
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I don't like BP, from what I've read their safety record is pretty poor.

That said, I want to see a maximum effort put into containing the oil to limit it's spread and hopefully prevent harm to even more sea life.
If trying to save turtles within the booms interferes with efforts to contain, clear or disperse the oil then I believe oil containment should take priority.

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June 16, 2010 - 11:44 AM | by: Dan Springer

Teams of volunteers and well-educated biologists skimming the water looking for oiled birds and other wildlife to save. Sound familiar? While the animal rescue is in full swing in the Gulf of Mexico, it's all deja vu for thousands of people who responded to the Exxon Valdez spill in the Prince William Sound in 1989.

And those animal experts are very pessimistic about the current rescue effort based on their experience 21 years ago. Even those birds and mammals that are cleaned and nurtured usually end up dying soon afterward.

In the days after the Exxon Valdez spill close to 400 oiled sea otters were pulled alive from the Prince William Sound. Biologists went to extraordinary lengths to keep them alive. Three care centers were built in the region at a cost of $4.2 million. Rescue vessels, helicopters and airplanes were brought in at a cost of $3.2 million.

Much more money would eventually be paid by Exxon to all the wildlife experts who worked on the effort over the course of several months. In all, $18.3 million went toward rescuing sea otters. But the end result was disappointing.

123 died after cleanup while in the centers. 37 went to zoos across the country. Two of them are still alive. Fewer than 200 were eventually released back into the wild. 30 of them were tagged and monitored. Their survival rate was disappointingly low.

Scientists learned just how devastating oil exposure is to wildlife. In the case of sea otters, the oil takes away their ability to keep warm. Also, they ingested oil as they tried to clean their fur leading to severe damage of their internal organs.

So the massive response was largely a failure. It cost $18.3 million which amounts to $90,000 per rescued sea otter.

The bird rescue effort was similarly unsuccessful. 1,604 birds were rescued and cleaned. 803 died or were euthanzied. 801 were eventaully released. Studies from other rescue operations suggest as few as 10-percent of those birds survived two years.
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One of the things the kind of get under my skin are the people who are causing damage to BP gas stations, the owners of the gas stations are the ones who have to pay to get everything fixed that insurance will, the average cost for a store owner to pay their end of the deal is over $1000.
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One of the things the kind of get under my skin are the people who are causing damage to BP gas stations, the owners of the gas stations are the ones who have to pay to get everything fixed that insurance will, the average cost for a store owner to pay their end of the deal is over $1000.
I live about a mile from an HQ for BP Exploration, which is one of the biggest buildings in the entire city. I'm worried some nutjob is going to fly a plane into it or something and take out half of Midtown.
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All of this is a sad situation, I just can't believe they can put a man on the moon and yet they can't stop the oil leak, it's crazy.
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it's not like it takes a rocket scientist to run a oil rig, or does it!!??
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All of this is a sad situation, I just can't believe they can put a man on the moon and yet they can't stop the oil leak, it's crazy.
Kinda makes you think they don't want to stop it. The govt. wants to kill big oil and push alt. energy. AT any cost which is the gulf coast. The longer this goes on the more people hate big oil. Just a theory.
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One of the things the kind of get under my skin are the people who are causing damage to BP gas stations, the owners of the gas stations are the ones who have to pay to get everything fixed that insurance will, the average cost for a store owner to pay their end of the deal is over $1000.
It is sad how many ignorant people can so easily blame the wrong people for what is happening at such a great distance. Do they really think the owners of a gas station are partially responsible for this dumb ass disaster? These owners are just trying to make a living like the rest of us and they sure don't need some jack ass making things more difficult than it already is.

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It is sad how many ignorant people can so easily blame the wrong people for what is happening at such a great distance. Do they really think the owners of a gas station are partially responsible for this dumb ass disaster? These owners are just trying to make a living like the rest of us and they sure don't need some jack ass making things more difficult than it already is.

Ignorance yes. Boycots and activities against BP lessens their ability to pay for the disaster. They can use this to reverse their promises to pay.
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I live on the other side and of the world and would love to help out (being an animal lover and all)

I have stopped using BP for fuel (I rarely used them anyway).

I think I'll have to scope the net to find lobby groups against BP.
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I live in New Orleans. I have not heard of any volunteer projects. BP and the Govt. do not want the news to get out that this is BAD! Volunteers will spill the beans. Come down and get a job on one of the boats and work your way to the rescue effort. Due to hazards dealing with the oil they won't take volunteers. Or contact Plaquemines Parish Govt. and inquire. I may be wrong but the only news we get is the national news.
I do too. I think that it is just only a rumor. I do not like BP either.
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The biggest hurtle towards really educating people about the oil industry is making them realize that a gallon of oil does not make a gallon of gas. Petroleum is so infused with our daily lives, we are at this point in time completely reliant on it. Every piece of plastic or rubber on your Jeep was made with petroleum. Unless you're out in the middle of nowhere, you literally can't turn your head without seeing oil, and the oil industry knows this. They own us, they own the world. I wish I had the answers to this problem, I wish I knew how to fix it. All I can say is be as responsible as you can and think about your brothers, sister and our home, earth. Hopefully we can fix this oil thing before it gets too far, I just hope we're not past the point of no return.
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The biggest hurtle towards really educating people about the oil industry is making them realize that a gallon of oil does not make a gallon of gas. Petroleum is so infused with our daily lives, we are at this point in time completely reliant on it. Every piece of plastic or rubber on your Jeep was made with petroleum. Unless you're out in the middle of nowhere, you literally can't turn your head without seeing oil, and the oil industry knows this. They own us, they own the world. I wish I had the answers to this problem, I wish I knew how to fix it. All I can say is be as responsible as you can and think about your brothers, sister and our home, earth. Hopefully we can fix this oil thing before it gets too far, I just hope we're not past the point of no return.
I think it may be worse more than anyone thinks
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maybe this is why the myan calender only went to 2012... because mexico no longer existed after that....
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All this seems small in comparision to granting Billy the Kid his pardon and making sure a man can marry a man.Want to see how this oil mess is gonna end?Do some research on Prince William Sound.Big corporate pay out and the locals will continue to suffer.These folks down there are gonna lose bigtime.The animals?Collateral damage.Its like trying to stop a D-9 dozer with a flower.Its sad.Sad that a piece of paper(money),can destroy nature as well as humans.

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