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Old 06-20-2014, 05:40 PM   #1
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Im scared,new job,maybe..

The place I work at now has been going downhill sine new owners bought the place.Im working more hours and making less,to the point my bills are falling behind.Im thinking i might have to sell my Mustang which really bumms me out,but the mortgage must get paid.A new place wants me and they seem really nice.I can make a lot more money but Im so afraid of change.The moral at the old place is horrible.It just sucks but Ive been there since 2002 so I have a lot of friends & people I know.
Im really up in the air & afraid of making a change.
Like I said,selling my car is upsetting but I need to do the adult thing,I suppose.

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Everything changes. It's better to leave now on your terms rather than being laid off after they run your current company into the ground. Given only what you've told here, I'd leave. Yesterday.

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Old 06-20-2014, 07:18 PM   #3
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Everything changes. It's better to leave now on your terms rather than being laid off after they run your current company into the ground. Given only what you've told here, I'd leave. Yesterday.
The unknown is always scary.On one hand Id hate to miss the opportunity of working somewhere I like but on the other hand sometimes the grass isnt always greener.
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maybe you could talk to some people that already work at the new place?

I tend to agree with whetstone: sounds like you're fed up with the current situation, and you have an open route to escape your current situation, so might as well take it.

Ask yourself what will happen if you stay at your current job. If you don't like the answer to that question, then maybe it's time to take a small leap into the relatively unknown.

best of luck to you, what ever you decide to do, I hope you find peace and fulfillment on your path
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It sounds like the path your headed down now is ready to change direction. If you continue to stay complacent it sounds like change is inevitable and it will happen regardless if you stay or go. Your friends/coworkers will always be there as long as you let them & you'll foster new ones in your new job. No risk-no rewards. Embrace what sounds like could be a positive change & move forward.
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Old 06-21-2014, 10:10 AM   #6
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Thanks everyone.Yesterday I did speak to one of the people who work there.He was really nice and said hes been there 25yrs and really does love it.He said when he leaves there it will be retirement time.He said he wont go anywhere else to work.I like the fact he kept mentioning good moral and how important it is.They have a few different bonus plans (which current job owners took away from us).I did meet the owner & he seemed very normal,joking around and such.I think it might be time to bite the bullet and make a change.We will see.
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Thanks everyone.Yesterday I did speak to one of the people who work there.He was really nice and said hes been there 25yrs and really does love it.He said when he leaves there it will be retirement time.He said he wont go anywhere else to work.I like the fact he kept mentioning good moral and how important it is.They have a few different bonus plans (which current job owners took away from us).I did meet the owner & he seemed very normal,joking around and such.I think it might be time to bite the bullet and make a change.We will see.
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Change can be hard sometimes, but sounds like change is happening around you anyway so you might as well take the chance and go to a new situation.

I find that it helps to ask myself two questions. What's the worst that can happen? What's likely to happen? If you can accept the answer to the first, and/or the answer to second makes it worth the risk of the worst happening, then you can go into it with a little less worry.

From what you've said, sounds to me like you're going from a bad situation to a good situation, why hesitate when you sound like you're unhappy with where you are now?
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Old 06-21-2014, 04:02 PM   #9
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Perhaps you could also find out what their customers think about them...
Ask about goals to improve organic growth...
What they do to achieve goals in a tight economic climate.

Why they opened the position? What's driving the need?

Just some basic reverse interview questions I'd throw at them.

If the customer base is shrinking, your pay and benefits will shrink with it.

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Ah hell, don't be scared buddy.

You were looking for a job when you found that one, right?
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Keep your head up man. Getting fired from my very first real job sucked. Looking back it's the best thing that happened to me.
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I've been with the county for 26 years. Haven't had a raise in 8 and this year the contract is up and management wants us to take a 7% pay cut. I retire this Friday and am going to work for a friend as his shop foreman. Gotta know when to call it quits and find better opportunities. I love my job and the people I work with. My supervisor is pulling his hair out because he has no idea how he is going to replace me. But the CEO and board of supervisors have their head up their butts. They just build a huge new court house and expect the employees to cover the overruns. Tired of paying for their extravagancies. I "donated" 3 whole paychecks when they built the hospital. I'm not paying any more.
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Yes it did, but that had nothing to do with the county. My father-in-law retired from the city just in time. The county has a huge reserve but doesn't want to touch it. Neighboring counties have given raises with out concessions. I didn't even go into those.
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Change isn't so bad. For the first nine months of my life I was all wet and in the dark. Then I saw the light. The rest is history.
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Some advice I learned a bit late in life:
  • It's a dog eat dog world. Don't be the guy wearing Milk-Bone underwear.
  • Always look out for #1, but don't step in #2.

The sense of familiarity with your employer leads to feelings of content and complacency, and as you've come to find - fear of change. You need to see things from a different perspective. You have to approach work for your own best interest, for your career path, for your wants and needs professionally and in your private life. Comfort and complacency make up the milk bone underwear of the dog eat dog business world. You don't want to be caught wearing Milk-bone underwear. It will weigh you down, and eventually the dogs will bite you in the ass. And because you didn't look out for #1 and make the change when the opportunity arose, you'll find yourself standing in #2 tending to your wounds.

The somber truth is that as an employee, you are but a tool used by an employer for the goals of the employer. Let there be no doubt - your employer would drop you like a bad habit if it so suited the needs of the business. As a pawn of the game of business, you'll be used as needed, and sacrificed as necessary to achieve the goals of the business. It's just how it goes. Nothing personal in the big picture.

You need to flip this idea of subservience, familiarity and loyalty to an employer on it's head - think of yourself as providing your services (knowledge/skills/labor) to an employer (client). Do so on terms that you find sufficient to help you achieve your goals in life. You don't get to set the rules as an employee so sometimes you'll have to compromise, but the compromise should only persist until you can find a better arrangement that better fits your wants and needs. Just as an employer will seek out the best suited employees, you should seek out the best suited employer.

So what you need to do is ask yourself: "Does my current employer (and employment situation) suit my needs for what I want for my career and my life? Are there other opportunities available that could change things to suit my needs?" If your employer is no longer suitable for helping you achieve what you want in life, then you may want to start thinking about dropping your employer like a bad habit. Particularly so if you have another opportunity waiting for you to take it up.

And so you have before you the opportunity to be in control of the situation and seek better arrangements - better pay, a more friendly place to work.

Starting any new job is an adventure and takes courage to jump into. Even if you don't end up really enjoying the new job, you aren't married to it and there is no obligation to remain for a decade. When employed by another you should always remember - you work for your own personal good and own interests, by doing work for others.
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Good stuff here everyone,thanks.Im a creature of habit & hate change.I just hate being the new guy at a job,but someday there will be someone newer than me.I think Ive made my decision,thanks again.
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After my day today & after talking to the new employeer I decided to take the job.I really feel good about it & to help things there offering me a sweet sign on bonus.Thanks everyone.
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all right, good news and good luck with your new endeavor
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Awesome.

Keep on keeping on, and good luck at the new job!
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After my day today & after talking to the new employeer I decided to take the job.I really feel good about it & to help things there offering me a sweet sign on bonus.Thanks everyone.
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Old 06-23-2014, 08:32 PM   #22
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Thanks everyone.I go tomorrow for my drug test.Ill study all night lol.
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What's your plan? Giving notice after you have a firm start date and the signed job acceptance letter?

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What's your plan? Giving notice after you have a firm start date and the signed job acceptance letter?

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As much as I would LOVE to give them my notice now I am going to wait until my background & drug test results come back.Seeing how I have a drivers license that doesent have as much as a parking ticket on it & I havent done any type of drud in prob 15yrs I should be all set but ya never know what can happen.
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As much as I would LOVE to give them my notice now I am going to wait until my background & drug test results come back.Seeing how I have a drivers license that doesent have as much as a parking ticket on it & I havent done any type of drud in prob 15yrs I should be all set but ya never know what can happen.
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Yep...never stop looking for work just because you found a job! Always another opportunity out there that can be much better then what you have...And it doesn't hurt to look: Just cus it's there, doesn't mean you *have* to take it....so...what do you have to lose looking?
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It is very important that you enter into your new job, with confidence.
Also in todays world, good communications and PR (Public relations) skills are a must.

Use these and you will be successful in your new endeavor......
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My current boss asked to take me for lunch today(weird I thought) On lunch he said other managers were worried about me because ive been "different" at work,stressed out.I didnt tell him I had another job lined up but did tell him Im keeping my options open & that I am unhappy & am thinking of finding something that will pay better & make me happy.He was understanding but told me he can change some things for me If I needed.The thing is the type of person I am is if I have a few people(managers in this case) telling me they care about me and need me ,I get all soft in the spine & feel bad & cave.I really dont want that to happen this time.Its really hard for me,working with people for a long time who I mostly get along with to just leave them,especially if they do care.Its the big corporation mgmt I dont care about.
Sorry if im being such a whimp here.
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My current boss asked to take me for lunch today(weird I thought) On lunch he said other managers were worried about me because ive been "different" at work,stressed out.I didnt tell him I had another job lined up but did tell him Im keeping my options open & that I am unhappy & am thinking of finding something that will pay better & make me happy.He was understanding but told me he can change some things for me If I needed.The thing is the type of person I am is if I have a few people(managers in this case) telling me they care about me and need me ,I get all soft in the spine & feel bad & cave.I really dont want that to happen this time.Its really hard for me,working with people for a long time who I mostly get along with to just leave them,especially if they do care.Its the big corporation mgmt I dont care about.
Sorry if im being such a whimp here.

Sometime managers do care, but their priorities aren't the same as yours and they aren't looking out for your best interests, but their own and the companies (in that order), you rate a distant third on their list, if that high.

It is ultimately your decision, but from what you've posted so far, the choice seems clear. Your current employer might be willing to do things to make it seem better for now, but it won't last and you'll just end up being unhappier because you'll have passed by a good opportunity.

I'm speaking from experience, btw.
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