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Old 01-17-2011, 09:38 AM   #61
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Is there an android app that would allow you to play Itunes (non mp3) music?

I have an LG Dare (I like it because its got great battery life and is pressure sensitive so I can use it through a ziplock while in a storm) but its just not Smart enough. I have an ipod touch and a macbook, but i really don't have much desire for the iphone. I do have desire to only carry one device and the Dare and itunes files just doesn't work how it should.

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There are ways to make your library into mp3 format so it works on android.

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Old 01-17-2011, 12:43 PM   #63
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Droid 2 Global & Droid Pro - both issues solved.
Yes but this thread is about the iPhone...
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Yes but this thread is about the iPhone...
So what you are saying is that AT&T you can globally use the iphone, but on verizon you can't...correct?
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Old 01-17-2011, 01:42 PM   #65
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No, it was announced yesterday. Verizon is basically getting the same iPhone as AT&T with Personal Hotspot enabled. The next generation iPhone, or one featuring 4g won't be released until at least 2012. I would promise that.

Anyway, I hated the iPhone when I sold it and I still do. I'm sticking with my Droid Eris until November and then picking up the Droid Bionic when it gets rooted and ROM'd.

Is 2012 definite on the 4G network for the Verizon iPhone? My conctract is up now with Verizon, wanted to see if the summer release would be 4G, but if not, I am ordering my phone on Feb 3rd.
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Old 01-17-2011, 01:53 PM   #66
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Nothing is definate in the world of wireless..there are already 4g handsets out now, just not the iphone. Problem is, verizons network isn't 100 percent ready to flip the 4G switch although they turn on more sites everyday. We are scheduled here for 4G either 4th quarter 11 or 1st quarter 12...but we are fairly rural.
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Report: iPhone 5 will be "Completely Redesigned"#
Iphone 5 this summer? Maybe

Iphone 4G this summer? more likely...

3, 3G, 3GS, 4... Looks like a 4G model would be next...
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:50 PM   #68
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I read this on another board and felt the info was worth the read. I have no clue how true this is, but it sounds credible.
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Well ... I have almost 40 years in wireless networking ... and I have dedicated myself in my grey fox years to clearing the air of marketing bull$hit and fools that spread it.

ATT microcell is a small mini-cell site (actually manufactured by Cisco) that you can buy in your local ATT store. It covers about 1000 square feet, looks like a WiFi access point, attaches to your home network and routes your ATT 3G service across your wired Internet connection ... greatly improving 3G voice and data performance within its range. No extra monthly cost but ATT does charge about $200 up front. It is like a WiFi access point for 3G. I could not use my iPhone in my house without it.

LTE (Long Term Evolution) is the industry consensus standard on the "next" generation of wireless cellular standard - and is actually a series of standards that will evolve over the next five years. ALL the carriers in the US will eventually support it - and ATT, Verizon and Sprint have explicitly said so. It will deployed alongside legacy 3G ... and future handsets will support both it (where available) as well as falling back to use either CDMA (for Sprint or Verizon) or GSM/UMTS/HSPA+ (for ATT and Tmobile).

It is based on a series of technologies (most of which are in common with other modern radio technologies like WiFi - particularly 802.11g and 802.11n) that dramatically improve performance over legacy 3G networks:

use of advanced antenna technologies (MIMO - Multiple In Multiple Out) to jujitsu multipath radio interference from making performance worse to making it MUCH better
use of a new modulation schemes (OFDM) to improve speed while moving and in cluttered building environments
combining may frequency bands (bonding) to improve burst speeds
going to all IP architecture that will (eventually) move voice to VoIP. In near term, voice will remain on legacy 3G (for Verizon CDMA) and just data traffic will be on LTE.
The net result of all this .. is to improve the raw speed of wireless data from the 3.2 Mbps of Verizon's CDMA Rev A network to something that will be closer to 100 Mbps. Remember this is shared bandwidth ... shared by all users of the same cell tower - about a square mile in general.

You will see folks talking about 1 Gbps speeds .. but that is some years out, standing underneath the cell tower, with a handset powered by your Prius's battery pack.

In the US, both Verizon and ATT will be deploying this in the 700 MHz band ... and the combination of wonderful radio propogation in this band and the improvements in the technology will make this a dynamite service.

There will be differences between carriers. And in some sense, Verizon is going to be "punished" for using CDMA in the past. Because the technology is SOOOOO different from Verizon's legacy CDMA service - there will be much more discontinuity from Verizon legacy service and the new one .. legacy customers are likely to see poorer performance over the next couple years since all the investment is going into the new technology and legacy handsets (e.g. anything sold through mid-2011) have no real benefit from the LTE investment.

For various mystical technical reasons, there is a more gradual path to LTE for ATT and TMobile - so legacy customers of these carriers should actually see their service improve even as these carries introduce LTE for future handsets.
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Is there an android app that would allow you to play Itunes (non mp3) music?
I would believe so... given the itunes music you have is drm free? Otherwise I think that would cause a problem.
I buy music from rhapsody and its drm free so I can use it on any device I see fit. I have 4gigs of tunes on my Evo already. I love it.
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So Apple is releasing another product that is behind the curve from launch day... and yet people still drool over their stuff? Why? There are so many better products with greater potential and people refuse to see it? Is the ability to say " I have a iPhone!" Worth that much to people and their egos that they will waste money and give up their consumer rights for it?

The iPhone is like a prius, its the "cool" thing. Where the Android phones are like Jeeps because you have Many, many more options and add ons. Ha ha ha! :P
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I agree totally....and 80 percent of the people with one don't even need a smart phone.
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I would believe so... given the itunes music you have is drm free? Otherwise I think that would cause a problem.
I buy music from rhapsody and its drm free so I can use it on any device I see fit. I have 4gigs of tunes on my Evo already. I love it.
Itunes does not nativly use mp3's which is the problem. they have their own format that only works on apple products. which is why you have to convert your library.
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Itunes does not nativly use mp3's which is the problem. they have their own format that only works on apple products. which is why you have to convert your library.
I know this. But if you buy a song from the itunes market is it still drm or has apple ever made their music drm free after purchase? If they still use drm, you are going to run into conversion problems and multiple device issues.

So if they sale drm free music, then its time to find a app that will play many media formats. Mp3 is among many formats that can play on devices such as a android phone. The format Apple uses is supported by devices other than just Apple products so long as its drm free. That is what limits it to apple products... another reason why I dislike apple and their proprietary ways.
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Convert iTunes to MP3 Format

You could try this. if it doesn't work there is software out there that can take care of the DRM.
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So Apple is releasing another product that is behind the curve from launch day... and yet people still drool over their stuff? Why? There are so many better products with greater potential and people refuse to see it? Is the ability to say " I have a iPhone!" Worth that much to people and their egos that they will waste money and give up their consumer rights for it?

The iPhone is like a prius, its the "cool" thing. Where the Android phones are like Jeeps because you have Many, many more options and add ons. Ha ha ha! :P
So you need to work on your phones a lot too hehehe
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What if you guys burn your iTunes songs onto a CD and then rip it into your computer with Windows Media Player? Idk if this would work but it's the first thing that came to my mind.
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What if you guys burn your iTunes songs onto a CD and then rip it into your computer with Windows Media Player? Idk if this would work but it's the first thing that came to my mind.
If the songs are drm free you can rip em to a cd... I'd assume. But if you're like me and have 10gb of music... that's a lot of cds to burn just to turn around and rip em back to the digital form.

Nice thinking though, to convert to wma.
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Convert iTunes to MP3 Format

You could try this. if it doesn't work there is software out there that can take care of the DRM.
I still say look at this. If you can do this, your music is not DRM protected and just do the songs you want to start, and add to it later.

If this doesn't work you need to talk to a friendly local kid who may or may not obtain his music in questionable ways to help you out. There are many cheap, or "free" ways to remove DRM if you know where to look.

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