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Old 07-10-2013, 09:04 AM   #1
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Is this a scam??

Hey all. I'm selling my Subaru WRX and have it posted on autotrader and Craigslist. The next day after posting on autotrader I got a text (from a weird area code) inquiring about the car and asking me to email him back. So I emailed him, telling him it was available still... This was his response


Thank you for getting back to me. Do you have the extra keys? Do you have the spare
tire? Where did you get your car serviced? Have you ever had any transmission repairs
and Is there any rust on the vehicle? I'm ready to pay your asking price but not cash
in person because I'm currently in a mission trip and calls are restricted at the
moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i
will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected
amount. If you don't have an account with paypal, its pretty easy to open one, Just
log on to www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as
possible? As I am buying the vehicle for someone and I'm very sure he will love this
vehicle, his a mechanic and a handy man. so if there is anything that need to be
fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the
pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me. I
look forward to hear from you with the information below.

Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
Full name:
Firm Price:
Zip code for pickup:

THANKS AND GOD BLESS
JAMES


My BS meter immediately went off! What do you guys think?

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Total BS. Been there many times.
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Hey all. I'm selling my Subaru WRX and have it posted on autotrader and Craigslist. The next day after posting on autotrader I got a text (from a weird area code) inquiring about the car and asking me to email him back. So I emailed him, telling him it was available still... This was his response

Thank you for getting back to me. Do you have the extra keys? Do you have the spare
tire? Where did you get your car serviced? Have you ever had any transmission repairs
and Is there any rust on the vehicle? I'm ready to pay your asking price but not cash
in person because I'm currently in a mission trip and calls are restricted at the
moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i
will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected
amount. If you don't have an account with paypal, its pretty easy to open one, Just
log on to www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as
possible? As I am buying the vehicle for someone and I'm very sure he will love this
vehicle, his a mechanic and a handy man. so if there is anything that need to be
fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the
pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me. I
look forward to hear from you with the information below.

Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
Full name:
Firm Price:
Zip code for pickup:

THANKS AND GOD BLESS
JAMES

My BS meter immediately went off! What do you guys think?
Its a scam. Don't send thim anything at all.
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Scam.

Now it causes me to ask; Do you plan on screwing with him?
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Sounds like bs. Google Paypal scams
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:07 AM   #8
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Yup...total scam. Trying to hack into your PayPal account.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:08 AM   #9
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Hey all. I'm selling my Subaru WRX and have it posted on autotrader and Craigslist. The next day after posting on autotrader I got a text (from a weird area code) inquiring about the car and asking me to email him back. So I emailed him, telling him it was available still... This was his response


Thank you for getting back to me. Do you have the extra keys? Do you have the spare
tire? Where did you get your car serviced? Have you ever had any transmission repairs
and Is there any rust on the vehicle? I'm ready to pay your asking price but not cash
in person because I'm currently in a mission trip and calls are restricted at the
moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i
will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected
amount. If you don't have an account with paypal, its pretty easy to open one, Just
log on to www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as
possible? As I am buying the vehicle for someone and I'm very sure he will love this
vehicle, his a mechanic and a handy man. so if there is anything that need to be
fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the
pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me. I
look forward to hear from you with the information below.

Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
Full name:
Firm Price:
Zip code for pickup:

THANKS AND GOD BLESS
JAMES


My BS meter immediately went off! What do you guys think?
Total scam!!!!!! report that email to autotrader and CL so that it might be traced.
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It is the worst scam around. Run faster than your legs can carry you and don't look back.

Also, make sure you don't accept Cashier's Checks for your local pickup orders only. There is a HUGE racket now, where they give you a check that would fool anyone NOT in the banking industry. Then after they've gone on their merry way with your item and you go to cash the check, you'll find out it is no good.

When Mike was selling his wheel/tire takeoffs, some guy from Somalia kept calling and telling him he'd send a freight forwarder to out house to pick up the wheels and deliver the cashiers check. He must have called ten times. He just wouldn't go away.

Also, I'd recommend meeting people at a Starbucks or something when coming to see your Subaru. People are also known for trolling for sale items, going to the house to view them and then not making the sale. Then they know where to come back and steal it from later.

Good luck on selling your Subaru though!
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Yes I should screw with him! His email is jamescoleman2@hotmail.com I'm not very tech savoy but I'm sore there has to be a way to bombard his email somehow!
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Yes I should screw with him! His email is jamescoleman2@hotmail.com I'm not very tech savoy but I'm sore there has to be a way to bombard his email somehow!
I would forward that to your local police... If even one of these scammers get caught, it helps us all in the end.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:23 AM   #13
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The local authorities might like to know about this as well. If he is stateside they might like to have a little fun with him.
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Yes I should screw with him! His email is jamescoleman2@hotmail.com I'm not very tech savoy but I'm sore there has to be a way to bombard his email somehow!
Hotmail email addresses are a dime a dozen. I bet 'James' has at least twenty of them at any given moment, working different scams. As soon as he completes a scam on someone or as soon as he realizes someone is on to him, he'll never use it again. Kind of like criminals and disposable cellphones.

Revenge sounds fun, but you'd probably just wind up upset with yourself for losing the time from your real life on something that will have absolutely no effect on him at all.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:26 AM   #15
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You want to know if it is a scam keep emailing him with issues like broken mirror every time he says ok send im another email with a diffrent issue see how far he goes before he quits. Any reasonable person will quit quickly after a few issues.
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Hotmail email addresses are a dime a dozen. I bet 'James' has at least twenty of them at any given moment, working different scams. As soon as he completes a scam on someone or as soon as he realizes someone is on to him, he'll never use it again. Kind of like criminals and disposable cellphones.

Revenge sounds fun, but you'd probably just wind up upset with yourself for losing the time from your real life on something that will have absolutely no effect on him at all.
Some of these scammers aren't that bright and don't use proxy connections. Everything in this digital age is "somewhat" traceable. There is a fraud department with our OPP here in Ontario, I assume the same with US police forces.
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Some of these scammers aren't that bright and don't use proxy connections. Everything in this digital age is "somewhat" traceable. There is a fraud department with our OPP here in Ontario, I assume the same with US police forces.
Sorry, didn't mean to sound like it shouldn't be reported. It definitely should be reported to Craigslist and AutoTrader. Not sure what the police would be able to do, since he didn't actually get defrauded, he just suspects something. Normally the police here are too busy working active cases and don't have the resources to take preventative measures. They are overworked and underpaid in my opinion.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:37 AM   #18
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It's kind of shitty of auto trader... They have a privacy protection package that costs a additional $15... I already paid $40 to run the ad, now they want to hit me up for something that should be included... Why wouldn't you want to protect your customers???
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Sorry, didn't mean to sound like it shouldn't be reported. It definitely should be reported to Craigslist and AutoTrader. Not sure what the police would be able to do, since he didn't actually get defrauded, he just suspects something. Normally the police here are too busy working active cases and don't have the resources to take preventative measures. They are overworked and underpaid in my opinion.
No worries, I just feel that if no one reports it... then were just as guilty and someone else may suffer as a result. When I was selling my Mazda B3000 last year, I had a few of these creeps try to do the same to me. I reported these situations and it even happened when I tried buying a jeep, someone posts pics of someone else's vehicle...
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Personally, I'd screw with him for a few days, use an IP spoofer, open up a new paypal account, new email address and give him the runaround for a few days.

I had a gun from Nigeria on the hook for about 4 days once, must have had him running to the Western union office 3 times to try and get the money I supposedly sent him.
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It's kind of shitty of auto trader... They have a privacy protection package that costs a additional $15... I already paid $40 to run the ad, now they want to hit me up for something that should be included... Why wouldn't you want to protect your customers???
You said it: Money.
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First, even cash can be suspect. It can be someone trying to launder drug money or counterfeit. The best way to close a sale is at a bank where they can verify the availability of funds and transfer them to your account before you hand over the title.

When you screw with a snake you run the risk of getting bitten. Report the incident to the FBI- they track this sort of cybercrime, but the locals will likely not do anything since no crime has yet been committed. After that you are best to have no further correspondence with this individual. From the broken English and statement that he's buying the car for "someone" who "will surely love the car" it sounds like one of the scammers out of Nigeria where they have boiler rooms for these operations. Regardless, report it and forget it.
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It is the worst scam around. Run faster than your legs can carry you and don't look back.

Also, make sure you don't accept Cashier's Checks for your local pickup orders only. There is a HUGE racket now, where they give you a check that would fool anyone NOT in the banking industry. Then after they've gone on their merry way with your item and you go to cash the check, you'll find out it is no good.
Actually, the way that the scam works is that they send you a check for MORE than your asking price and ask you to then send the rest to their 'shipper', who they claim will come by to pick up whatever it is that you're selling.

If you are in good standing with your bank, they will initially honor the check and it will show as cleared in your account. Of course, once you've sent the extra $$$ onto the 'shipper', the check comes back as fraudulent and you are left on the hook for the entire amount.

They scammer is not interested in your merchandise, only your money.


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I LOVE this place. Give it a read to get some ideas about how to ruin this scumbag scammer's day. Enjoy!
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ask him to send a picture with a shoe on his head. then post it here.
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My BS meter immediately went off! What do you guys think?
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Scam................don't do it............
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first, even cash can be suspect. It can be someone trying to launder drug money or counterfeit. The best way to close a sale is at a bank where they can verify the availability of funds and transfer them to your account before you hand over the title.

When you screw with a snake you run the risk of getting bitten. Report the incident to the fbi- they track this sort of cybercrime, but the locals will likely not do anything since no crime has yet been committed. After that you are best to have no further correspondence with this individual. From the broken english and statement that he's buying the car for "someone" who "will surely love the car" it sounds like one of the scammers out of nigeria where they have boiler rooms for these operations. Regardless, report it and forget it.
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