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Old 03-07-2011, 11:38 AM   #1
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Kid Rock’s use of Confederate flag sparks NAACP boycott

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Some NAACP supporters plan to boycott the Detroit arm's annual fundraiser over an honor for Kid Rock they say doesn't mesh with the civil rights group's goals.

The rocker is set to receive the Detroit branch's Great Expectations Award at the annual dinner, which typically attracts about 10,000 people, on May 1 at Cobo Center.

But Adolph Mongo, a longtime political consultant and head of Detroiters for Progress, said he and others will sit out over Kid Rock's use of the controversial Confederate flag during performances.

"It's a slap in the face for anyone who fought for civil rights in this country," Mongo said Thursday. "It's a symbol of hatred and bigotry."

NAACP officials defended the honor.

"Kid Rock ... has consistently lifted up the Great Expectations of many persons … concerning the future of the city," Donnell R. White, interim executive director of the Detroit Branch NAACP, said in a statement.

Kid Rock and his representatives couldn't be reached. But in a 2008 interview with the Guardian in Britain, he said the flag to him represents southern rock 'n' roll.

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Old 03-07-2011, 11:40 AM   #2
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when will the naacp move on to bigger issues

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this country is getting way too overly PC. its kind of sad.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:43 AM   #4
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Not a big fan of Kid ,but he is a damn good musician , I posted this to see fellow forum members comments and concerns with the subject .I myself am from Tennessee and do not ever remember flying the flag for hateful purposes but to show my southern pride and thats all .I know Kid is from Detroit ,but his taste for music is southern drenched and there is nothing wrong with that.The fact that the NAACP is crying racism over the confederate flag is just telling me that they are just hungry for attention and thats all.
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The civil war was never about slaves, depending on where you read. It was about a way of life. I see it as a sign of independence and rebelion.

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First, we must understand that symbols like the Confederate Flag have no intrinsic meaning. The meanings symbols carry is that which humans attach from their own learning. Thus, any viewer of a symbol is free to assign it any range of meanings. The symbol itself, then is constant, but the value symbolized is not. Assuming that the Confederate Flag is an element of our culture, it becomes neccesary to define culture. Stephen M. Fjellman, in his book Vinyl Leaves, defines cultre as: "a public, more-or-less shared set of symbols, meanings, understandings, and beliefs people use to make sense of and reproduce their normal lives." Culture and symbols, like the Confederate Flag, can be shared on an international, local, regional, economic, racial, ethnic, or family level, all of which can overlap forming an infinite array of possibilities. Herein lies the source of controversy over the Confederate flag

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Yeah imagine what would happen if someone were to do one of the following. The NAACP seems to be pretty contradictory when it gets upset about things they deem discriminatory while not being "outraged" over other instances of discrimination.


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LOL, silly NAACP...getting all worked up over nothing.

Let me check my "give a shit-o-meter"...yup as I suspected...its bottomed out.
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The civil war was never about slaves
There Is No Such Thing As "The" Confederate Flag
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this is one of the dumber topics the NAACP has ever complained about, and that's saying a lot.

Anyone who has followed Kid's career at all knows he got started RAPPING and break-dancing with Detroit-area BLACK artists back in the '80s - and has continued to be involved both professionally and personally with countless black musicians and others in the music biz ever since. His DRUMMER is a black female, for pete's sake.

He's not racist, or even prejudiced. He flies the stars and bars to identify with the rock-a-billy and southern rock culture; pure and simple.
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this is one of the dumber topics the NAACP has ever complained about, and that's saying a lot.

Anyone who has followed Kid's career at all knows he got started RAPPING and break-dancing with Detroit-area BLACK artists back in the '80s - and has continued to be involved both professionally and personally with countless black musicians and others in the music biz ever since. His DRUMMER is a black female, for pete's sake.

He's not racist, or even prejudiced. He flies the stars and bars to identify with the rock-a-billy and southern rock culture; pure and simple.
I totally agree ,maybe they (NAACP) just wanted to be on the headlines for something ,kinda like Rev. Al does now and again.
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I made a comment on Yahoo ,and look at the nasty replies I got,and I said nothing about being a racist or anything that could even be implied that I am.

My comment :I am not a racist or bigot ,and last week I wore my General Lee 01 T-shirt that has the confederate flag on the back of it to my children's basketball finals and not a word was said ,New York ,a gymnasium that was at least 40% black and not a word was said ................Why is something that is so terrible and hateful so random ? Answer that !!!!

Reply 1 :Because the other people had more courtesy than you and didn't wish to create a disturbance jacka.ss.

Kid Rock is From Michigan, not the South— he's not expressing love of homeland, hence he's using the symbol to express something else— you figure it out.

To all you Right-Wing clowns claiming people are overreaching to Kid Rock’s use of Confederate flag— you jacka.sses would be screaming out of the other side of your mouths if a black performer was up on stage with a Muslim crescent and star flag.

You hypocrites would be frothing like dogs— symbols do matter.

Reply 2:Because maybe your racist shirt was not important enough for those 40% black people to approach you about.... But an icon to many "Kid Rock" using a disgusting flag in celebration is the start of a trend and next a riot.






So I am a racist ? Whah ?
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nope def not racist. people are way to overly sensative and end up making their opinions about what he is doing w/o knowing who kid rock is. it is important to take things in context, which most people are not capable of.
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Am I the only one that finds it amusing that they guy creating the stink is named Adolph . . . doesn't get much better than that!!!
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Mongo ? ..............."Mongo like candy" ,wait myabe what I said was just racist since it was taken from the movie Blazing Saddles .....my bad .
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doesn't matter what symbolism kid rock attaches to the flag, it matters what the generally accepted symbolism people attach to it. believe it or not, like it or not, the confederate flag is in the same class as the kkk white sheets and hood, the nazi symbol and a burning cross. all symbols of hate and racism.
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doesn't matter what symbolism kid rock attaches to the flag, it matters what the generally accepted symbolism people attach to it. believe it or not, like it or not, the confederate flag is in the same class as the kkk white sheets and hood, the nazi symbol and a burning cross. all symbols of hate and racism.
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doesn't matter what symbolism kid rock attaches to the flag, it matters what the generally accepted symbolism people attach to it. believe it or not, like it or not, the confederate flag is in the same class as the kkk white sheets and hood, the nazi symbol and a burning cross. all symbols of hate and racism.
No.

But I've never understood why folks from MI, PA, etc do anything with it, that would be like me flying a Canadian flag.
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doesn't matter what symbolism kid rock attaches to the flag, it matters what the generally accepted symbolism people attach to it. believe it or not, like it or not, the confederate flag is in the same class as the kkk white sheets and hood, the nazi symbol and a burning cross. all symbols of hate and racism.
Meeh, It depends on where you are from. For instance if your from a yankee leaning state your gonna think that, but if your from the south you don't.
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A lot of symbols have different meanings. And these symbols have been misused over the years and have now taken on new meanings. The swaztika is a symbol of luck and well-being, and was on american made items before the war. Ever since hitler used it, its meaning has been misconstruded the germans used it to represent the arain race, not anti-semitism. Most people who complain about things like this are ignorant (in the literal sence) to know such things. The Confederate flag does not represent slavery. It represented the confederate states, a body formed by persons and states united by a league. IMO The NAACP is going out of their way on matters like this because we have an "african-american" as president and think they will get further.

I would reccomend anyone to listen to the Drive-By Truckers "The Southern Thing" they put a good explination to the duality of southerners.
"...Aint about no hatered, better raise a glass, its a little bout some rebels but it aint about the past, aint about no foolish pride, AINT ABOUT NO FLAG, hates the only thing that my truck would want to drag.."

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I'll get off my soap box now...

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Its about symbolism and different items mean different things to separate (but equal) groups of people. Everyone has a right to their own personal interpretation but they also have the right (and ability) to be idiots.
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when will the naacp move on to bigger issues
When will they just move on period. Can't stand the whole NAACP reverse racism bullchit!

And on another note...someone needs to hunt down Rev Al Sharpton, and Ol' Jesse too.


Im all about getting along with other people...I dont really care about your skin color or ethnicity. But I cant stand when certain groups of certain people feel like we (the white/caucasian community) owe them something. Or they are entitled to or deserve special treatment.
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I agree about the flag.. want to put it on the back of rebel my cj, but also know that I would get nine kinds of crap for it.. sigh
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ohhh that is cool.... I was gonna paint it on the tail gate... that is saaaweeet and gives me ideas....
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All I can say is,WOW,what a bunch of craziness
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Hey, Kid Rock is a HUGE supporter of the military and spends an inordinate amount of time overseas in Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan doing USO shows. I don't care what else he chooses to do with his life. He supports me. I support him. His music doesn't spread hate or racism, so they (NAACP) just need to choose another battle to fight. This is 2011, folks....give it a rest. It's time to get past the whole "black/white" thing. (That last sentence wasn't directed to anyone on the forum. It's directed to the people who want to cry "that's racist!" to everything.)

And just because I like to add this little fella every time there's a racism-based thread on the forum (and he makes me laugh)......here he is.....
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People are really stupid seeing that the war wasn't over slavery at all. That wasn't even the main flag during the war. Some people think we still owe them something.

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