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Old 03-07-2012, 09:19 PM   #1
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Kony2012

is all over facebook. everyones talking about it the video has been going viral since monday. how do you feel about it? scam or real deal? i think its real from what i've read and watched. its really messed up what Kony is doing kid napping 30 thousand boys giving them guns and training them for his army the LRA, and thousands and thousands of girls hes using as sex slaves.


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Old 03-07-2012, 09:38 PM   #2
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The problems over there are real. The Invisible Children group is a scam. I would suggest nobody give any money to them, only a small margin of donated money actually goes to the cause. They do not release their financial information (they are a freakin' charity) but when they were forced to release a number it was something like 30% of the money goes to actually helping people. This is nothing but viral marketing to make this "non-profit" a whole lot of money. Kony has not been seen since 2006 and may be dead for all we know. This has been an issue for years and all of the sudden it spread like wild fire.


Moral of it all, do no donate your money to a charity unless you know how it is being used. % to help, % to workers ("volunteers") % spent on company needs etc.

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Old 03-07-2012, 09:50 PM   #3
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i was thinking the same thing about the IC...


like this are you freaking kidding me?
Get Everything Pack + Limited Edition Peace and Action Necklace | Invisible Children Store

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Get Everything Pack + Protection Plan | Invisible Children Store


crazy. i get the posters thing 5 bucks for 20 for the cover the night wake up on the 21st to kony posters everywhere. i think it should be free tho. if ur trying to spread awereness or whatever.
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Old 03-07-2012, 09:52 PM   #4
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not to mention supposedly the charity owner makes 90G a year but he spends alot on travel/getting stuff for KONY2012 its not like hes living high on the dollar. idk. i think its possible its a scam then again who knows. would we ever really know.
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:39 PM   #5
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It's a pretty shady organization. The money they spent on viral marketing for this would be mind blowing if we ever saw it.
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:46 PM   #6
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Thanks PT!

never heard of this before, thankful to have a valid rebuke.


i love this radio station air1 107.1 (in my local anyway, maybe diff # in yours).
i donated to this girl's operation.
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jmo, the music there is good stuff, i personally dig the harder rock stuff, i'd never heard of bands like Red and such before, they kick all manner of butt and will be the next cd i buy. iow, it's Christian music but it's not all sappy ballads.


didn't mean to hijack original topic , just kinda segue'ed that direction as my 3rd shift brain rambles on caffeine
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:59 PM   #7
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This is great

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I've done a fair bit of looking into it, and everything doesn't add up. Heres my findings and I have included sources. Will probably get down voted to hell but I hope to give at least one of you a better understanding of whats going on. Theres ALWAYS two sides to every story. This viral film has caught the attention of heaps of young folk but you are all far too late. Watching that Kony video is essentially watching old news. They started filming in 2003, and northern Uganda has been free of LRA violence and war for over five years. In fact, the LRA have signed a peace accord! They are rebuilding and are restoring the peace.
Yes the leader is still out there however the recruitment of children has decreased 80%. This isn't due to the Invisible Children organisation, its because Ugandan military and the ICC have intercepted. The Invisible Children group are trying to pass a bill that allows America to militarise the region... They are providing misinformation to woo idealistic followers. The group have combined multiple regional conflicts to make it appear that this is one rapidly increasing issue. When confronted about their dodgy tactics, the head spokesperson stated;
“I agree with you that leading people to believe that the war is still happening in Uganda is not ethically right. It's something we've been addressing internally, focusing on getting all staff and supporters on the same page (of communication)."
If you read the news, or even had an ounce of interest in the on-going unrest in Africa you would already know this and not be fooled. Yes, awful things happen to people in 3rd world countries but this has been occurring for centuries, it isn't a recent occurrence.
I think its only fair if I am to make such comments I provide sources (unlike the people over at Invisible Children...)
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Michael Kirkpatrick, a long-time Independent Global Citizen, he has resided in Uganda and other regions of Africa. He has no political, religious or financial agenda. He wrote this article and gave an in-depth insight to whats really going on. He also questioned important members of Invisible Children about their motives. [1] http://www.blackstarnews.com/news/12...010-06-02.html
Charity Navigator is a website that breaks down the proceeds and donations given to Invisible Children and subsequently shows what percentile of that is REALLY going towards these impoverished kids. A measly slither of what is going into the founders pockets. [2] Charity Navigator Rating - Invisible Children
I've read an interesting passage from Northern Ugandan man however it is not 100% verified - he has advised the Northern Ugandan parliament have listed IC as their main priority on their "fraudulent activity" list. (See 2nd comment, username Livingstone). [3] Martin County students help Ugandan children - Topix THIS article asking Invisible Children why they were pressuring poor AND illegal piece of legislation has since been removed and deleted. [4] http://blog.invisiblechildren.com/20...m-lisa-dougan/
ADDITIONALLY - There were members of Invisible Children were saying what their "allowance" could purchase them, it was on a forum on the official website, and this has also been REMOVED. [5] http://blog.invisiblechildren.com/?p=5901
Also: [6] The Gauntlet News - Barry from Look What I Did responds to Invisible Children Organization.html
I have a few more sources if anybody is looking for a specific answer, or where I got a certain fact, please just feel free to ask.
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things i noticed in the video

the kony posters and the Obama posters are almost identical.

in one clip they where speaking at a black panther party. ( not that it matters , but they are anti government )

imo. theres more to worrie about here in the good ol usa, than jumping on the band wagon for problems a half a world away.
lets fix this country first, then we can take a look.
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My thoughts exactly green. We have our own problems why do we need to take in more? Our economy sucks we need to be worrying about our own stuff before we travel to another country to helpout. I do however believe kony needs to be stopped i just dont think we can handle it at the moment.
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things i noticed in the video

the kony posters and the Obama posters are almost identical.

in one clip they where speaking at a black panther party. ( not that it matters , but they are anti government )

imo. theres more to worrie about here in the good ol usa, than jumping on the band wagon for problems a half a world away.
lets fix this country first, then we can take a look.
From what ive read its a combined poster of both rep and dem. Im not sure if i get why.
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I also dont get how hes using his kid to promote the kony conpaign...
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supposedly were all going to make up on april 20th to kony stickers and posters everywhere...
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supposedly were all going to make up on april 20th to kony stickers and posters everywhere...
I'll be pissed if someone puts a sign or poster in my yard, on my house, or my Jeep
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Yeah same.
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supposedly were all going to wake up on april 20th to kony stickers and posters everywhere...
not me.

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I've been reading on this...as mentioned, the Kony stuff is real and has been for years. It's nothing new. And it's a problem, I agree.

I also was one of the ones passing on the links to the info regarding Invisible Children being a shady organization...they remind me of how HSUS is a scam organization for animal lovers (if you donate to them...you might want to do some reading).

However, I also am all about presenting both sides of the story and while facts can be manipulated on both sides, I must at least give Invisible Children credit for putting forth a well-worded response. Who you believe, I'll leave that up to you.

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Me, personally? Nobody over there will see a dime of my money. America has enough problems of its own and with all these recent tornado outbreaks, I especially would rather make an effort to help the folks here at home needing help. But that's just my opinion...spend your time/money however you wish.
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supposedly were all going to make up on april 20th to kony stickers and posters everywhere...
well now april 20th.

that date should ring a bell in everybody's mind.. are we all forgetting history........ its freaking Adolf Hitler's birthday.
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This guy has ben around for over 20 years, but you see they just realize (China) he sets on a sea of oil. So lets make a big deal about it (nudge) the USA to take action so someone (China) can get to the natural resources.
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well now april 20th.

that date should ring a bell in everybody's mind.. are we all forgetting history........ its freaking Adolf Hitler's birthday.
Jesus christ i totly forgot about that... Another weird part of this whole kony2012 event.
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This guy has ben around for over 20 years, but you see they just realize (China) he sets on a sea of oil. So lets make a big deal about it (nudge) the USA to take action so someone (China) can get to the natural resources.
Just my 02.
I hate China as much as they next guy, but..
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I hate China as much as they next guy, but..

You should look into who is buying up all the resources in Africa.
Its not the USA.
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Lmfao thats not right but still funny
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There's an American that's over there that's helping the Sudanese freedom fighters. They call him the Machine Gun Preacher.

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