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Old 03-08-2013, 10:52 PM   #123451
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Hey all what's new at the zoo?

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Old 03-08-2013, 10:52 PM   #123452
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What they don't realize is that to make a prius, etc destroys more of the Environment than running a gas car for 20 yeard
Not to mention the cost for local governments to train their first responders and buy all the required hazmat equipment.

Next Jeep I get is gonna either run on alcohol or methanol.

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Old 03-08-2013, 10:53 PM   #123453
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The new Cherokee sucks
that's being kind.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:56 PM   #123454
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OH... When I see "Cherokee" I just assume "Cherokee" I am a former XJ driver. But hell yes I think it will be a good SUV. I don't care what anybody has to say about the more "road mannered" jeeps ever made. Jeep has never made a vehicle that you can't throw into the market without dominating capability and performance in its own class.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:59 PM   #123455
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Kiss my Phildo

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Nicely said ! Hahaha
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:00 PM   #123456
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Nicely said ! Hahaha
Not you too????
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:01 PM   #123457
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I'm a fan of XJ's



Thats because you have never had a rubi....lmao..(joke fellas settle down)
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:03 PM   #123458
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Thats because you have never had a rubi....lmao..(joke fellas settle down)
And you don't have a real Jeep
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:04 PM   #123459
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Hey all...quick ? I want to beef up the look of the JK but I don't want to buy huge tires and a lift just yet. How wide and tall can I go on the stock 17" rims and could I use some spacers to give it a wider stance? Thanks.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:04 PM   #123460
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No 240 hp/420tq

2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee and Grand Cherokee SRT8 Test Drive - Popular Mechanics

Powertrains: 3.0-liter diesel V-6, 240 hp, 420 lb-ft; 3.6-liter V-6, 290 hp, 260 lb-ft; 5.7-liter V-8, 360 hp, 390 lb-ft; 6.4-liter V-8, 470 hp, 465 lb-ft; eight-speed automatic, RWD or AWD

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Ah yes, 6.4l 470hp more than the new vette I believe
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:06 PM   #123461
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Not you too????
It's a Canadian conspiracy plot against Phildo, eh!
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And you don't have a real Jeep
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:08 PM   #123463
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No 240 hp/420tq

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Powertrains: 3.0-liter diesel V-6, 240 hp, 420 lb-ft; 3.6-liter V-6, 290 hp, 260 lb-ft; 5.7-liter V-8, 360 hp, 390 lb-ft; 6.4-liter V-8, 470 hp, 465 lb-ft; eight-speed automatic, RWD or AWD

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Thanks for proving my argument
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:09 PM   #123464
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Not you too????
Didn't think men were into phildos?! Maybe I got this all wrong.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:09 PM   #123465
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Ah yes, 6.4l 470hp more than the new vette I believe
Not hard to make more power than the Vette, they are still using push rod technology
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:11 PM   #123466
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OK,
I need some help...as some of you may know, I have an obsession with SOG

What else would you guys add.
Here's what I have


Should I add

Axe around$20


Shovel around $20(has gotten bad reviews)


Combo around $60(I think)
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:12 PM   #123467
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:12 PM   #123468
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:12 PM   #123469
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Thanks for proving my argument
We were talking about a diesel

it has 240hp/420tq
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:13 PM   #123470
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Definitely the combo
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:14 PM   #123471
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Axe only.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:15 PM   #123472
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Not hard to make more power than the Vette, they are still using push rod technology
Umm still vette jeep... I mean really...my 08 has a minivan engine! And I really don't care what the tech involved is if you've REALLY DRIVEN a vette not much else compares
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I heard there is going to be a V6 deisel for the Jeep Cherokee. Has anyone heard that?
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That would make sense. They did 4 and 6 cyl diesels in the liberty, and seeing as the Cherokee is a replacement. I think it is going to be a solid SUV. ESPECIALLY if it will be offered with a diesel.
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I saw the unveil, 8 spd tranny 400+ hp, launch button for 0-60 spd tranny
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Wouldn' that motor be fun in a wrangler
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2014.....They say they are testing the market to see if it will be good in a Wrangler


Hell I wouldn't mind having a Grand with a diesel.....420ft/lb of torque
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torque not hp
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I have an Australian buddy that has a diesel JK. He absolutely loves it, he said it way outperforms the V6. I have always wanted to put a Cummins 4BT in my TJ. That would be so killer...
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No hp, they claimed more than the 2014 vette... why... and computer controlled suspension
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2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee and Grand Cherokee SRT8 Test Drive - Popular Mechanics

Powertrains: 3.0-liter diesel V-6, 240 hp, 420 lb-ft; 3.6-liter V-6, 290 hp, 260 lb-ft; 5.7-liter V-8, 360 hp, 390 lb-ft; 6.4-liter V-8, 470 hp, 465 lb-ft; eight-speed automatic, RWD or AWD

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Old 03-08-2013, 11:15 PM   #123474
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Hey all...quick ? I want to beef up the look of the JK but I don't want to buy huge tires and a lift just yet. How wide and tall can I go on the stock 17" rims and could I use some spacers to give it a wider stance? Thanks.
You can fit 33's without a lift but on the stock wheels you'll need to use spacers to not rub. And you might rub if you disconnect I believe.
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Axe only.
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We were talking about a diesel

it has 240hp/420tq
We were talking about a diesel option, not specifically a diesel
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Yeah isn't that some manure? Reward the production and ownership of Prius and the cars in the same vein, and tighten the band around economic, dependable diesels. People are ignorant, and lobbyists are capitalizing on it.
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Definitely the combo
Ah crap, they to out the hand axe and added a knife, but it's only $39
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Axe only.
That's what I'm thinking, b/c I really want a crovel shovel
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:19 PM   #123479
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Hey all...quick ? I want to beef up the look of the JK but I don't want to buy huge tires and a lift just yet. How wide and tall can I go on the stock 17" rims and could I use some spacers to give it a wider stance? Thanks.
If you're looking at getting smaller wheels you might want to wait. The cost of 15" tires and wheels is comparable to a set of 17" tires. I'm not a real big fan of spacers, but tons of people use them.
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We were talking about a diesel option, not specifically a diesel
They've offered an srt8 Grand for years, that's not new.....I give

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