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Old 03-12-2013, 08:00 PM   #126421
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Kids just need to tuffin up dang it!! We dont need athletic trainers we need kids to stop being sissy's
Do you even know what an athletic trainer is? Do you have any kids that play sports?

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I had a son that did. And its a expense that schools could be spending on roof mounted 50 calibers!

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Do you even know what an athletic trainer is? Do you have any kids that play sports?
I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say athletic trainers teach how to use your body in a proper way in order to avoid injury in the first place.

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Lack of security at schools has killed a heck of alot more kids than sports!
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I had a son that did. And its a expense that schools could be spending on roof mounted 50 calibers!
You are not worth my time arguing with
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At high school level and below the coach's should be cross trained to do this.. Would be a cost savings to the school and alot of schools cant afford it and use kids to do it.. So force coach's to do it so everyone is on same playing field
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You are not worth my time arguing with
Dont blame you wouldnt do you any good
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I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say athletic trainers teach how to use your body in a proper way in order to avoid injury in the first place.

Am I close?
That's one of the things we can do, yes. We're health care professionals... Do lots of first aid/emergency care, injury & illness assessment/evaluation and treatment.. It's different in different settings.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:19 PM   #126430
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At high school level and below the coach's should be cross trained to do this.. Would be a cost savings to the school and alot of schools cant afford it and use kids to do it.. So force coach's to do it so everyone is on same playing field
Coaches are trained in basic first aid and CPR. Athletic trainers go to school for 4 years, know way more about the human body, injuries, and how to treat them than coaches could ever learn in some class they take on a weekend.
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That's one of the things we can do, yes. We're health care professionals... Do lots of first aid/emergency care, injury & illness assessment/evaluation and treatment.. It's different in different settings.
So almost like a first responder in certain situations? Are you trained to use a defibrillator? Our gov. Is currently putting them in all hockey rinks. There is a direct link to people properly using defibrillators saving lives who would have in other circumstances not survived.
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So almost like a first responder in certain situations? Are you trained to use a defibrillator? Our gov. Is currently putting them in all hockey rinks. There is a direct link to people properly using defibrillators saving lives who would have in other circumstances not survived.
Technically I am a certified first responder, yes. And yes. They may call athletic trainers "physics" there, they do in Europe and Oz.
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Coaches are trained in basic first aid and CPR. Athletic trainers go to school for 4 years, know way more about the human body, injuries, and how to treat them than coaches could ever learn in some class they take on a weekend.
Right what im saying is that it would be a cost savings and some schools cant afford a trainer.. So make it mandatory for coach's to go through it. I think we spend way too much money on sport sometimes and not enough on education! You have to admit wether you like too or not im at least partially right..
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:29 PM   #126435
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Right what im saying is that it would be a cost savings and some schools cant afford a trainer.. So make it mandatory for coach's to go through it. I think we spend way too much money on sport sometimes and not enough on education! You have to admit wether you like too or not im at least partially right..
No you aren't right at all. It is mandatory (in NYS anyway) for coaches to be certified for first aid and CPR. There's no way a coach could know everything and have the same skill set an athletic trainer does after going to school for 4 years and accumulating over 1000 clinical hours of experience. Obviously not all schools can afford athletic trainers but Athletic trainers save lives all the time.
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Trainers are nurse drop outs. And sports are needed in schools far more than education as athletes by statistics are usually within the top percentiles of their class. Sports teach you more in life and in self motivation to do your work and work hard than any teacher/book does. More sports money less money to drama club.
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Trainers are nurse drop outs. And sports are needed in schools far more than education as athletes by statistics are usually within the top percentiles of their class. Sports teach you more in life and in self motivation to do your work and work hard than any teacher/book does. More sports money less money to drama club.
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Trainers are nurse drop outs. And sports are needed in schools far more than education as athletes by statistics are usually within the top percentiles of their class. Sports teach you more in life and in self motivation to do your work and work hard than any teacher/book does. More sports money less money to drama club.
First off... Nurses and athletic trainers are separate healthcare positions. Just because you're an athletic trainer doesn't mean you're going for nursing... Nor does it mean you've dropped out of nursing school... Since I'm a surgical tech does that mean I dropped out of med school?
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No you aren't right at all. It is mandatory (in NYS anyway) for coaches to be certified for first aid and CPR. There's no way a coach could know everything and have the same skill set an athletic trainer does after going to school for 4 years and accumulating over 1000 clinical hours of experience. Obviously not all schools can afford athletic trainers but Athletic trainers save lives all the time.
So u dont agree that USA spends more money on sports than education? Look at what teachers make and look at what you and coach's make. Its sad..I see full contact sports going away maybe not in our time but it will go away.. Terry bradshaw said if he had boys they wouldnt play football.
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No you aren't right at all. It is mandatory (in NYS anyway) for coaches to be certified for first aid and CPR. There's no way a coach could know everything and have the same skill set an athletic trainer does after going to school for 4 years and accumulating over 1000 clinical hours of experience. Obviously not all schools can afford athletic trainers but Athletic trainers save lives all the time.
See the problem is your girls and boys clubs use volunteer coach's some are not even fit to be around kids. I had one coach was literally trying to get kids hurt i pulled my son off the team. So unless you can put athletic trainers in peewee and on through to high school. Its never going to be a safe sport
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Never said that, trainers are good at tapping ankles and wrists. That's all I've seen them do. Ice packs, ice wraps, band aids etc. if its serious an ambulance is there already or there within a few minutes. Just saying, trust a nurse more than a trainer. Just my two cents from being an athlete my whole high school/some college years. And surgical techs I know who work in hospitals got a two year community college degree? Seems legit
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See the problem is your girls and boys clubs use volunteer coach's some are not even fit to be around kids. I had one coach was literally trying to get kids hurt i pulled my son off the team. So unless you can put athletic trainers in peewee and on through to high school. Its never going to be a safe sport
Sounds like an argument for more trainers. Not less
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So u dont agree that USA spends more money on sports than education? Look at what teachers make and look at what you and coach's make. Its sad..I see full contact sports going away maybe not in our time but it will go away.. Terry bradshaw said if he had boys they wouldnt play football.
Lets see... Last years total budget.. $48,400,000. Athletics budget.. $945,083. So no. You have no idea what you're talking about. There's no way schools spend more on athletics than education.
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Problem is though, high school and lower coaches are teachers and make there living teaching. They get bare minimum for coaching so why would they waste all the money and time for no return? If you want the school to pay for them to do it, that's a wash in your cost saving reason in the first place. Coaches do not belong in the medical aspect of sports at all, everyone has there own job to do and more people should learn how to do one thing good rather than doing two things mediocre.
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Sounds like an argument for more trainers. Not less
Oh thats my point.. Cross train the coach's I see a huge problem with coach's making 6 figures and more a year when professors and teachers are barely getting by.. Or priority's are severely clouded
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Lets see... Last years total budget.. $48,400,000. Athletics budget.. $945,083. So no. You have no idea what you're talking about. There's no way schools spend more on athletics than education.
If anything they don't spend enough on sports. Sports are getting cut left in right in schools, and do you see more books because of it? NO
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Lets see... Last years total budget.. $48,400,000. Athletics budget.. $945,083. So no. You have no idea what you're talking about. There's no way schools spend more on athletics than education.
Thats bs! You make more than a teacher right or wrong?
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Oh thats my point.. Cross train the coach's I see a huge problem with coach's making 6 figures and more a year when professors and teachers are barely getting by.. Or priority's are severely clouded
where do you see coaches making this kind of money? Did you bump your head?
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Oh thats my point.. Cross train the coach's I see a huge problem with coach's making 6 figures and more a year when professors and teachers are barely getting by.. Or priority's are severely clouded
I think your head is severely clouded because no coaches I know, and I know a lot of coaches, are making 6 figures a year!! Only in the pros.
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thats bs! You make more than a teacher right or wrong?
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