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Old 11-08-2012, 04:04 PM   #1
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Legalize It? Colorado and Washington did.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Voters in Washington and Colorado passed ballot initiatives Tuesday to legalize marijuana for recreational use, the biggest victory ever for the legalization movement.

Colorado, Washington legalize recreational marijuana use - Nov. 7, 2012

Doubt it will ever get far enough to be passed, but it has the possibility of generating hugh amounts of revenue.

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It's a step in the right direction... of course a central bank and the IRS don't belong in a free society so it could be better without the taxation but I was really glad to see this happen. Now hopefully these two states set the standard and the other 48 follow.

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I live in WA and last thing i want to see is a bunch of stoned aholes walking around cuz its ok to do it now.
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nothing is gonna change, same people are going to smoke that are smoking now!
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less people i have to pay for being in jail getting 3 squares a day and free medical
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Although I haven't smoked pot since high school, I voted to legalize it. It's just not on the same level as heroin, cocaine and meth. It should be treated like beer/wine/liquor - 21 and over, no driving if you're under the influence, tax the hell out of it, allow people to make their own for personal consumption but not for distribution, and punish those that sell or give to minors. As for public stonedness (new word alert!)...it's nowhere near as obnoxious as public drunkeness. Neither should be tolerated if it causes a disturbance, though I doubt that stoners are gonna do much more than laugh and eat. Drunks on the other hand want to do things like fight, barf and pass out.
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Although I haven't smoked pot since high school, I voted to legalize it. It's just not on the same level as heroin, cocaine and meth. It should be treated like beer/wine/liquor - 21 and over, no driving if you're under the influence, tax the hell out of it, allow people to make their own for personal consumption but not for distribution, and punish those that sell or give to minors. As for public stonedness (new word alert!)...it's nowhere near as obnoxious as public drunkeness. Neither should be tolerated if it causes a disturbance, though I doubt that stoners are gonna do much more than laugh and eat. Drunks on the other hand want to do things like fight, barf and pass out.
I dont want to smell it. It smells like dook!
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Although I haven't smoked pot since high school, I voted to legalize it. It's just not on the same level as heroin, cocaine and meth. It should be treated like beer/wine/liquor - 21 and over, no driving if you're under the influence, tax the hell out of it, allow people to make their own for personal consumption but not for distribution, and punish those that sell or give to minors. As for public stonedness (new word alert!)...it's nowhere near as obnoxious as public drunkeness. Neither should be tolerated if it causes a disturbance, though I doubt that stoners are gonna do much more than laugh and eat. Drunks on the other hand want to do things like fight, barf and pass out.

Couldnt agree more. I cant imagine stoners making any kind of scene. I always thought this is how the govt would get out of debt. Tax the chiz out of it and reap the benefits of more tourism.
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I dont want to smell it. It smells like dook!
You're crazy! I love the way it smells. Smells better than beer
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Have you ever walk into a bar and said "MMMM... that smells good!"
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So what if everyone does it its ok to legalize it? What if i go around and shooting pedophiles and rapists like a vigalante? Why not legalize that i mean those people did wrong and im punishing them and doing right. Lets bring back chinese opium dens they are all stoned and don't make a ruckase. It was illegal for a reason so it should stay illegal. As for prison over crowding and feeding them.for.free i do understand that. I think that they should be penalized much more heavily for drug related offenses.
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So what if everyone does it its ok to legalize it? What if i go around and shooting pedophiles and rapists like a vigalante? Why not legalize that i mean those people did wrong and im punishing them and doing right. Lets bring back chinese opium dens they are all stoned and don't make a ruckase. It was illegal for a reason so it should stay illegal. As for prison over crowding and feeding them.for.free i do understand that. I think that they should be penalized much more heavily for drug related offenses.
They made it legal to shoot pedophliles??
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I live in WA and last thing i want to see is a bunch of stoned aholes walking around cuz its ok to do it now.
I'm with you. I see the card holders lighting up in the grocery store parking lot!
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Ridiculous...It's a drug. No reason to legalize it. Plus, just because it's legalized doesn't mean the drug dealers will start following the law. Our country is falling apart.
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I'm with you. I see the card holders lighting up in the grocery store parking lot!
Again, the idea is that it would be treated just like liquor. If you've got people lighting up in public places like grocery store parking lots, then you've got law enforcement issues.

In WA I don't envision people lighting up at restaurants, bars, sports arenas, casinos or any of the other myriad of places where alcohol flows freely. Unless it's being eaten, MJ is a substance that by its nature affects the surrounding area with smoke, odors and second-hand highs. I think there will be some smoking bars/lounges, but mostly people will imbibe in their private homes just like they always have, only they won't have to go to criminals to get it and won't be be criminals themselves for using or possessing it.
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Again, the idea is that it would be treated just like liquor. If you've got people lighting up in public places like grocery store parking lots, then you've got law enforcement issues.

In WA I don't envision people lighting up at restaurants, bars, sports arenas, casinos or any of the other myriad of places where alcohol flows freely. Unless it's being eaten, MJ is a substance that by its nature affects the surrounding area with smoke, odors and second-hand highs. I think there will be some smoking bars/lounges, but mostly people will imbibe in their private homes just like they always have, only they won't have to go to criminals to get it and won't be be criminals themselves for using or possessing it.
So why not make all the other C-I drugs legal? Heroin, Cocaine, Meth, PCP, GHB, Ectacy why not? As long as people do it in the comfort of there own home and don't bother the public seems like a good idea then huh?
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Again, the idea is that it would be treated just like liquor. If you've got people lighting up in public places like grocery store parking lots, then you've got law enforcement issues.

In WA I don't envision people lighting up at restaurants, bars, sports arenas, casinos or any of the other myriad of places where alcohol flows freely. Unless it's being eaten, MJ is a substance that by its nature affects the surrounding area with smoke, odors and second-hand highs. I think there will be some smoking bars/lounges, but mostly people will imbibe in their private homes just like they always have, only they won't have to go to criminals to get it and won't be be criminals themselves for using or possessing it.
I'm ok with legalizing it, but get all the regulations in place first. It's a silly mess in Ca. right now.
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Alcohol was illegal at one point also...
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So why not make all the other C-I drugs legal? Heroin, Cocaine, Meth, PCP, GHB, Ectacy why not? As long as people do it in the comfort of there own home and don't bother the public seems like a good idea then huh?
For the same reason that you can buy some drugs over the counter and others that do the same thing, but are much more powerful, require a doctor's prescription. It's a matter of degree. There are very few things in life that are black and white. The argument of "Well, why not legalize EVERY ILLEGAL DRUG?" makes about as much sense as those who are against same-sex marriage saying "Well, why don't we just let people marry their TOASTER?". If someone can't see the distinction between marijuana and heroin (or between a consenting adult and an inanimate object) then there's just nothing I can say.
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I'm ok with legalizing it, but get all the regulations in place first. It's a silly mess in Ca. right now.
Medical marijuana in WA has been legal for the past few years now. So it's not like we're starting without any kind of basics in place. It hasn't been a mess thus far.
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I work in a pharmacy and do you guys have any idea how bad prescription drug abuse is? And im not just talking about all the a$$ holes robbing pharmacies to score some OxyContin and killing people in the process. I mean they are now snorting Gabapentin i mean seriously?? So what do we do just make it worse by leting the hundreds of thousands of people who smoke/eat it whatever just another channel to get illegal drugs. I can see a cancer patient taking Marinol for apettite stimulation but my 16 year old neighbor really has no medical use for it.
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For the same reason that you can buy some drugs over the counter and others that do the same thing, but are much more powerful, require a doctor's prescription. It's a matter of degree. There are very few things in life that are black and white. The argument of "Well, why not legalize EVERYTHING?" makes about as much sense as those who are against same-sex marriage saying "Well, why don't we just let people marry their TOASTER?". If someone can't see the distinction between marijuana and heroin (or between a consenting adult and an inanimate object) then there's just nothing I can say.
Yes and there is a reason tylenol is OTC, Vicodin is a C-III and Oxycodone is a C-II. All the others are a C-I and have NO real medical purpose that is backed by scientific evidence.
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Um, it's a plant. The federal govt has no right to restrict the use, unless requested by a majority of states for just cause. The state does.

Hemp alone would save the US economy, and send a shot to Chinese and Indian cotton and textile industries.

Isn't this a free country?

I would rather have weed legal and alcohol illegal. Drunk men have pointed guns at me. Stoned people get freaked when I show em one.

Cocaine, opium, crack, meth, herion, lsd, and most other drugs, including all pharmacuticals, are processed from organic and nonorganic componants to create a drug. Weed grows. No difference, huh?
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Yes and there is a reason tylenol is OTC, Vicodin is a C-III and Oxycodone is a C-II. All the others are a C-I and have NO real medical purpose that is backed by scientific evidence.
Yet the pharms get to sell Marinol.

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*sigh* Your 16 year old neighbor would still be breaking the law, and so would the person who gave it to them. Nothing will change where people under age 21 are concerned. Honestly I don't think anything will change at all. People who want to smoke pot are already doing it. People who don't want to smoke pot aren't going to start just because it's legal.

But we shall see if it's the crumbling of civilization as we know it. Sort of like how legalizing the selling of hard alcohol in grocery stores was going to turn the roads of Washington into rivers of blood. Still waiting for that one.
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Yet the pharms get to sell Marinol.

Do explain...
A MD has to prescribe it.for a legitamate purpose i.e. Cancer/AIDS. Jon down the street cant take it just to get a high and blow off some steam.
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Um, it's a plant. The federal govt has no right to restrict the use, unless requested by a majority of states for just cause. The state does.

Hemp alone would save the US economy, and send a shot to Chinese and Indian cotton and textile industries.

Isn't this a free country?

I would rather have weed legal and alcohol illegal. Drunk men have pointed guns at me. Stoned people get freaked when I show em one.

Cocaine, opium, crack, meth, herion, lsd, and most other drugs, including all pharmacuticals, are processed from organic and nonorganic componants to create a drug. Weed grows. No difference, huh?
Poppies grow, lets make morphine OTC and legalize heroine? Its natural.
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Ridiculous...It's a drug. No reason to legalize it. Plus, just because it's legalized doesn't mean the drug dealers will start following the law. Our country is falling apart.
Alcohol is a drug.

Way more addictive than marijuana.

Seems hypocritical to have one be legal and not the other, no?

If marijuana is a gateway drug, then so is booze.
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*sigh* Your 16 year old neighbor would still be breaking the law, and so would the person who gave it to them. Nothing will change where people under age 21 are concerned. Honestly I don't think anything will change at all. People who want to smoke pot are already doing it. People who don't want to smoke pot aren't going to start just because it's legal.

But we shall see if it's the crumbling of civilization as we know it. Sort of like how legalizing the selling of hard alcohol in grocery stores was going to turn the roads of Washington into rivers of blood. Still waiting for that one.
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Poppies grow, lets make morphine OTC and legalize heroine? Its natural.
Lmao. MD can prescribe, yet the plant it is derived from has no medicinal purpose. You contradict yourself. Can't be C1 and C2.

Poppies are on bagels, in their raw form. Don't play stupid. It is processed to drug. Not grown and eaten.

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