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Old 10-15-2013, 08:31 PM   #31
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This is in Maine? Could've sworn it would be the south.
A couple of cars on blocks and some appliances places throughout the yard would really set the yard off.

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This thread has literally turned into a contest of who could make the better pun and i am loving it atm.

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Confucius say: Man who stands on toilet is high on pot...

Wonder what Confucius has to say about man who plants toilet in yard...
Like the man who go through airport turn style sideways, going to Bangkok.
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Well, let's make it two.


My point being, your statement saying his neighbors had blocked his sale was incorrect. His buyer lost interest.
Buyer lost interest because of the opposition from the neighbors

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Dude wanted a huge check for something he did not do...
What do you mean?
He wanted a check for property that was his.

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So now he wants to bring down the community that didn't want corporatations betting down the door.
From the looks of the picture, there is a business next door to the guy wanting to sell his property.


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He needs to quit his bitching and go to work, like an adult.
Maybe I didn't catch the whole story. Where did it say he didn't work?
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Buyer lost interest because of the opposition from the neighbors

What do you mean?
He wanted a check for property that was his.

From the looks of the picture, there is a business next door to the guy wanting to sell his property.

Maybe I didn't catch the whole story. Where did it say he didn't work?
No. Buyer lost interest because they failed to secure proper zoning from the zoning board.

He wanted a check exceding the 'comp value' of his home and land (or in other words more than it is worth).

And the community decided not to have another. Additionally, that business is a closed service station that was to be included in the sale (from another owner) and torn down as well to make room.

Mr Labbe is a plumber who, by his admission, has seen a 60% drop in work. So he really needed to sell his 62.000$ house for nearly 200,000$. My solution would be to man up and get back to at least 40 a week. I'd sell lemonaide and peanuts roadside before I sat around with no work. I certainly wouldn't stack f'in toilets out of spite.

Neighbors voiced concerns primarily about traffic patterns but also about introducing new zoning trends in their residential communities.

No residents, beyond Mr Labbe and his family, have come forward to support the rezoning.

“That’s too bad,” Labbe said. “They pissed me off, I’m going to piss them off now.”
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No. Buyer lost interest because they failed to secure proper zoning from the zoning board.

He wanted a check exceding the 'comp value' of his home and land (or in other words more than it is worth).

And the community decided not to have another. Additionally, that business is a closed service station that was to be included in the sale (from another owner) and torn down as well to make room.

Mr Labbe is a plumber who, by his admission, has seen a 60% drop in work. So he really needed to sell his 62.000$ house for nearly 200,000$. My solution would be to man up and get back to at least 40 a week. I'd sell lemonaide and peanuts roadside before I sat around with no work. I certainly wouldn't stack f'in toilets out of spite.

Neighbors voiced concerns primarily about traffic patterns but also about introducing new zoning trends in their residential communities.

No residents, beyond Mr Labbe and his family, have come forward to support the rezoning.

“That’s too bad,” Labbe said. “They pissed me off, I’m going to piss them off now.”
You obviously know more about the story than I do. But I highly doubt the guy would resort to stacking toilets in his yard if the neighbors had nothing to do with the rezoning not happening.

So if a company wanted to buy your property for a higher value than what it was appraised for, you wouldn't sell it? I would in a heartbeat! I have several pieces of property that I bought years ago as an investment.
The only way I would sell any of them would be for a profit. Am I wrong too for wanting to do this?
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You obviously know more about the story than I do. But I highly doubt the guy would resort to stacking toilets in his yard if the neighbors had nothing to do with the rezoning not happening.

So if a company wanted to buy your property for a higher value than what it was appraised for, you wouldn't sell it? I would in a heartbeat! I have several pieces of property that I bought years ago as an investment.
The only way I would sell any of them would be for a profit. Am I wrong too for wanting to do this?
Neighbors should not have input on zoning? Why have boards and public hearings? NOBODY else wanted it. The papers even cold called the neighborhood to find supporters... To date, they have not found any.

Sure ya should. But if your plans to rezone for the purpose of selling your land at a higher price than you payed fall through, move on with life instead of trying to drop values from spite.

Were he really "bout it", he'd open a coffee shop in the old service station which would lead to a buyout, but would take some years of investment and hard work.

His house isn't currently on the market for sale.
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Well, let's make it two.

In society, we have rules. Among these many rules are zoning regulations. They determine what can be be where. You can apply to have a rezoning, say if you buy a house and want to level it to make room for a coffee shop, and a community board will have a public hearing. Denial of a rezoning application by community outcry is, at the very simplest, democracy at work. It is only logical to allow a community to decide what will be in that community and where. Is it NIMBY? Sure. So what.

My point being, your statement saying his neighbors had blocked his sale was incorrect. His buyer lost interest. Why, oh why, would the residents of his community owe him for not getting rezoned? I can see it now... "pay me neighbors, else this cow field will be Wal~Mart!" Lol.

Dude wanted a huge check for something he did not do... the American Dream... and now he is pissy b/c he didnt get it. Can he stack 1000 toilets? Sure. But he cannot sell one, which is what his beef actually is. So now he wants to bring down the community that didn't want corporatations betting down the door. He needs to quit his bitching and go to work, like an adult.

And I still do not advocate theft.
I'm all for residents of a neighborhood having a voice in zoning regulations. In this case the people of the neighborhood made their voices heard, and stopped this lot from being rezoned. The part I'm taking issue with is the fact that they're now trying to tell the guy what to do with his place above and beyond what the zoning regulations call for. My suggestion of leave-the-guy-the-hell-alone is the most outlandish thing of all the posts here?
I suppose I'll change my suggestion so I'll fit in here. I propose the op and his neighbors hire a hit man to take this guy out after they forge a will leaving the property to them to do with as they please...
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Neighbors should not have input on zoning? Why have boards and public hearings?
I never said they shouldn't have any input.

You were making it sound like the neighbors had nothing to do with the outcome of the zoning, when indeed they apparently had everything to do with it.

Would I stack toilets in my yard if I failed to get my property sold? No, probably not. But forgive me if I find it hilarious.
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My suggestion of leave-the-guy-the-hell-alone is the most outlandish thing of all the posts here?
I suppose I'll change my suggestion so I'll fit in here. I propose the op and his neighbors hire a hit man to take this guy out after they forge a will leaving the property to them to do with as they please...
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Like somebody else suggested, chip in and buy the place at the "top dollar" price you stopped him from legally getting for his property. It was his to sell, not yours.
You want it to look a certain way, you buy it.
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I'm all for residents of a neighborhood having a voice in zoning regulations. In this case the people of the neighborhood made their voices heard, and stopped this lot from being rezoned. The part I'm taking issue with is the fact that they're now trying to tell the guy what to do with his place above and beyond what the zoning regulations call for. My suggestion of leave-the-guy-the-hell-alone is the most outlandish thing of all the posts here?
I suppose I'll change my suggestion so I'll fit in here. I propose the op and his neighbors hire a hit man to take this guy out after they forge a will leaving the property to them to do with as they please...
Right. But again, it was not your, nor any other, opinion that I rebutted. Only the misrepresentation of facts relating to the story.

I did not say not to leave him alone. Smashing them into little bits, IMO, is equally douchy. So would be any other forms of vandalism.

The city has mentioned that if it becomes 'excessive', it will fall under the 'junkyard' ordinance and be cleaned up at the owners expense. How bout them 'nanners?

I have witnessed the same thing firsthand - a transit authority took our property under imminent domain and left us with half a poorly zoned lot. Failure to be able to rezone meant no big payday - oh well, life goes on. We still went and cleaned the trash others left on our lot, so it didn't look like Sh!t. But I guess that's just me.

As Mr Labbe said, his only intention is to piss them off. Because of this instigation, I would take his toilets to the dump, and even leave him a box of donuts. Dunkin, of course.

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Like somebody else suggested, chip in and buy the place at the "top dollar" price you stopped him from legally getting for his property. It was his to sell, not yours.
You want it to look a certain way, you buy it.
He can still sell it to whomever he likes to, including DD.
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Now that this has turned into an argument I shall insert my two cents,

Why would you not want a DD near your house? Besides increased road traffic and all that other crap, it makes the morning rush to work 10x easier, and if you're getting hungry and don't feel like making any food.....it's right there.

Also this is coming from a college student lol.
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The old service station looks like a good place to open a strip club or liquor store...
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2 friends of mine did exactly what some of you have suggested, and that is buy up all the land on the side they didn't want disturbed. One guy has a cabin on the slope of a hill in Kenny Lake and liked the view down the hill and bought up everything he could to prevent someone else from taking it and putting up something he didn't want. Another couple in Wasilla has a beautiful house on the edge of a huge cliff canyon with a river (matanuska river) and bought up everything on both sides so people couldn't chop down all the trees and take away their view. Unfortunately, they've had to erect all kinds of 8-9' fencing to stop the moose from trampling their gardens. haha.

I know 2 funny stories of greed just like this only the companies were trying to buy up cheap houses for development and in the end did it around the last holdout. ONe is a newer Lowes location on the outskirts of town where the last holdout wanted something insane like 2Mil for his house and Lowes said screw it and ended up building their parking lot around his house and now it's worthless. This was probably 10yrs ago. And currently, there's a lot of development around one block i know where all kinds of medium height apartment buildings have been going up one. I guess there were plans for the last 100 yards of that street for another building with one house in the way. They must have also said "screw them" about 2 weeks ago because construction has begun and now this tiny single story house (on prime estate) is now going to be entirely surrounded by 15 story apartment buildings. ..and that lot is also worthless as it will get no sun except maybe an hour in the early morning.
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Tonight, after everyone is asleep go crap in the one closest to his front door.
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Tonight, after everyone is asleep go crap in the one closest to his front door.
Indecent exposure, vandalism, and trespassing. If they're going to get criminal about it, murder-for-hire is probably the most effective way of eliminating the problem...
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Like somebody else suggested, chip in and buy the place at the "top dollar" price you stopped him from legally getting for his property. It was his to sell, not yours. You want it to look a certain way, you buy it.
Your missing the finer details of it.

Using numbers from a previous poster, his house was 62k. Big business comes in and says "hi sir, if we are able to rezone your property, we would be interested in purchasing it for our business, will pay handsomely, how does $200k sound".

Obviously anyone and everyone would be like hell yeah. Thanks for the money.

Big business goes to town and says we would like to rezone this section of town from residential to (insert proper new zoning to make business here). Town says we take it under consideration. Hold town meeting. Residents come. Residents say, if you reclassify my section of town to to (insert proper new zoning to make business here) that reduced my property value, opens my residence to further issues, traffic, population increase, and further possible less desire able business to move in. Example: adult novelty store next to your house, meth clinic next to your moms house I'm sure u see my points. Now the town says your right, The impact against many to benefit the few, here it is the impact of everyone to benefit this 1 guy, because the big business has 0 supporters, is not approved. Re zoning denied.

Big business now says oh well we tried. See that lot over there, less problems less hassle less lawyer bills, let's go buy that. Thank you sir, no longer interested and the dissolve the deal.

Residents didn't block this deal to just poo poo on this specific guy, now he is trying to poo poo on the local community because he didn't get his way.

Grow up.
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Now that this has turned into an argument I shall insert my two cents,

Why would you not want a DD near your house? Besides increased road traffic and all that other crap, it makes the morning rush to work 10x easier, and if you're getting hungry and don't feel like making any food.....it's right there.

Also this is coming from a college student lol.
Arguements typically involve name calling and insults - this is a conversation amongst gentlemen.

Traffic was the primary concern of residents.

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That's what my talkin bout!

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Indecent exposure, vandalism, and trespassing. If they're going to get criminal about it, murder-for-hire is probably the most effective way of eliminating the problem...
Don't forget public defication! A big no-no.

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Full disclosure - Mr Labbe alleged the value of his offer to be "three times" what he had paid for the home, which was 62,000$ in 1999 according to tax records. The actual offer # is private.
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Residents didn't block this deal to just poo poo on this specific guy, now he is trying to poo poo on the local community because he didn't get his way.
Are you sure? Sometimes jealousy is bi@$h. Let's see...... The owner apparently has a sh!thole of a house, which is located next to a sh!thole of an old business. Both were to be demolished and a new building built. Hmm... Seems like a win win to me.

What is to stop the meth clinic or adult novelty store from moving into the old existing building? My guess is there is more of a chance of that happening than either moving into a new, more expensive building.

Sounds like the neighbors were jealous. Just sayin.
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Are you sure? Sometimes jealousy is bi@$h. Let's see...... The owner apparently has a sh!thole of a house, which is located next to a sh!thole of an old business. Both were to be demolished and a new building built. Hmm... Seems like a win win to me. What is to stop the meth clinic or adult novelty store from moving into the old existing building? My guess is there is more of a chance of that happening than either moving into a new, more expensive building. Sounds like the neighbors were jealous. Just sayin.
Zoning laws are what prevent them. That's what stopped the deal. You can't have a business in a residential zone. Now this gentleman a house is in a residential zone, not a commercial zone, so no adult store or meth clinic can not operate out of the old house without that same zoning change.
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Zoning laws are what prevent them. That's what stopped the deal. You can't have a business in a residential zone. Now this gentleman a house is in a residential zone, not a commercial zone, so no adult store or meth clinic can not operate out of the old house without that same zoning change.

I am not referring to toilet guys house. You may want to look at the picture again. There is already an existing building next to the guys house which apparently used to be a service station. This building apparently can be used as a business. From what BlueRidgeYJ is saying, this building was to be demoed along with the sale of toilet guys house.
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I am not referring to toilet guys house. You may want to look at the picture again. There is already an existing building next to the guys house which apparently used to be a service station. This building apparently can be used as a business. From what BlueRidgeYJ is saying, this building was to be demoed along with the sale of toilet guys house.
Yes... and without further details all we can do is armchair speculation.

My opinion, the defunct business is probably an old business (but not commercial) zoning district. Getting a new business in that facility would require some govt interaction (permits, etc) and would have some community influence. I think you would have insane hurdles trying to make it a pill mill, let alone a whore house.

Again, IMO - It would be relatively easy, though, to gain approval to turn that shatty building into a new business, particularly community owned/operated vs a corporate giant. And DD has already done testing on the area to know it will support a store location. I would be kissing my neighbors asses to be able to take the building in my front yard and build a DD clone. Once the town realizes you can't stop progress and DD is coming, sell out lot, business, house - everything. You'd get 200k for a good lil coffee shop alone.
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I think you would have insane hurdles trying to make it a pill mill, let alone a whore house.
Whoa! I said adult novelty store. Is there more to an adult novelty store than I am aware of?
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Whoa! I said adult novelty store. Is there more to an adult novelty store than I am aware of?
Sorry, I'm from Atlanta. It's just how we roll...
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What is the saying about tall fences making good neighbors.....or some shit like that?....

I'd start collecting tubs & see who wins the contest.

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