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Old 09-17-2009, 02:38 PM   #31
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In tight quarters like an apartment or a condo, a 38 round will still have enough energy to travel thru a wall and still pack enough of a punch to kill your neighbor. The small size of the bird load should reduce this greatly. Yeah the short barrel 12g is loud, but my ears ringing for a couple of days is probably going to be the least of my concerns if I'm actually in a situation where I need to use deadly force. I've put many a round thru my 12g, and it's never acted like a flash bang or stunned me . . . If you don't have any practice with the firearm, you probably shouldn't depend on it for home defense.
Is this directed towards me???

Besides, shooting at a range w/ hearing protection or outdoors is completely different than shooting indoors at night.

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So about 1230 last night I heard a gun shot so i got up to investigate and discovered a bullet hole in my ceiling. This bullet had come up through my floor, through my laundry basket with my seat covers in it, through my seat covers and into my ceiling. Then I waited a while to see if someone would come by and see if they shot anyone, but no one did, so I called the police. Then they went knocking on doors and discovered it was the guy 2 floors down from me (the units in-between us are empty) that "accidentally" shot his ceiling and thus my floor, ceiling and seat covers. So first off I am pissed that he shot into his ceiling and didn't bother checking where his bullet went. Second I want to make sure I don't end up paying for the damage to my apartment, and I want the money for my seat covers. My question is do you think I should resolve this between me, him, and my landlord or should I press formal charges? I am not sure how big of deal to make of this.

its a big freaking deal bro.. what if you had kids running around in the house when that happened..
i would certainly get a report and advise the landlord of that.. that is no way your issue or fault in theres a bullet hole in your floor or ceiling.. did the ASS even come up and knock on anyones door to make sure he didnt freakin kill someone... dude im pissed just readin that..

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About the home defense calibers, if anyone would like an indepth talk, PM me. I did a science experiement as a youngster, comparing different calibers. Lets just say Bird shot is your friend. oh and not living in an apartment is good too.

You'd be amazed how many rooms all handgun rounds will go through.

Let alone a rifle....hence my suggestion for 1/2 steel plate.

Indoors at night, a 22LR is enough to cause permanent hearing damage...but in reality, Would you rather be dead, or have some hearing damage?

If you are concerned about muzzle flash, avoid pistols, as the shorter the barrel, the more unburnt powder will reach the end and burn outside of the barrel...some ammo has a flash suppression built in.

In the home there is nothing better than a good PUMP shotgun.

1st, the sound of the pump is enough to make many bad guys poo their panties and get on the floor, then there's the fact that Pumps don't malfunction like a auto shotty can. YOu can use a dbl barrel or single shot, but then you are limited to 1 or 2 shots, reloading takes time you may not have. A shotgun wound leaves nothing to be repaired. I worked on a guy who had a close range 12 guage to the shoulder...he lost his arm as there was literally no bone to work with. he had 2 thin strips of skin holding his arm to his torso.
A few inches more inward and his ribcage would have looked the same...he'd have died.
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now i have a question as i have been to chicken to try this what about rocksalt rounds saw it in kill bill probably fake but was curious cause if its not then that would suck
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now i have a question as i have been to chicken to try this what about rocksalt rounds saw it in kill bill probably fake but was curious cause if its not then that would suck
I can't remember where I read about that. but in practicality you're better off with a decent bird shot...In all reality, the shotgun blast itself will hurt so bad, the salt won't make any difference. Just remember that you can alter the pattern with the choke. A full choke bird shot @ 10 ft. will go through a wall. However open choke @ 10yds will put more shot off target than on.

Shooting cardboard at varying distances will show you your area of impact....
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Yes, Rock Salt can be used. Just about anything you can shove into a shot-shell will work.
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About the home defense calibers, if anyone would like an indepth talk, PM me. I did a science experiement as a youngster, comparing different calibers. Lets just say Bird shot is your friend. oh and not living in an apartment is good too.

You'd be amazed how many rooms all handgun rounds will go through.

Let alone a rifle....hence my suggestion for 1/2 steel plate.

Indoors at night, a 22LR is enough to cause permanent hearing damage...but in reality, Would you rather be dead, or have some hearing damage?

If you are concerned about muzzle flash, avoid pistols, as the shorter the barrel, the more unburnt powder will reach the end and burn outside of the barrel...some ammo has a flash suppression built in.

In the home there is nothing better than a good PUMP shotgun.

1st, the sound of the pump is enough to make many bad guys poo their panties and get on the floor, then there's the fact that Pumps don't malfunction like a auto shotty can. YOu can use a dbl barrel or single shot, but then you are limited to 1 or 2 shots, reloading takes time you may not have. A shotgun wound leaves nothing to be repaired. I worked on a guy who had a close range 12 guage to the shoulder...he lost his arm as there was literally no bone to work with. he had 2 thin strips of skin holding his arm to his torso.
A few inches more inward and his ribcage would have looked the same...he'd have died.
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BlackHawk: I'd also like to congratulate you on writing the best post title I've seen. "My Neighbor Shot My Car Seats" is guaranteed to get everyone to read this thread.

It's brilliant marketing. I tip my hat.
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I seriously thought when I saw the title of this thread that he had Deer on his covers and him and some buddies got drunk and shot at his Jeep by mistake.
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Is this directed towards me???

Besides, shooting at a range w/ hearing protection or outdoors is completely different than shooting indoors at night.
Sorry if it sounded that way, but no, just making the point that there is no substitute for practice when it comes to this type of thing. I think being familiar with your firearm will not only reduce the shock factor, but will hopefully reduce the need for that second shot.

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About the home defense calibers, if anyone would like an indepth talk, PM me. I did a science experiement as a youngster, comparing different calibers. Lets just say Bird shot is your friend. oh and not living in an apartment is good too.

You'd be amazed how many rooms all handgun rounds will go through.

Let alone a rifle....hence my suggestion for 1/2 steel plate.

Indoors at night, a 22LR is enough to cause permanent hearing damage...but in reality, Would you rather be dead, or have some hearing damage?

If you are concerned about muzzle flash, avoid pistols, as the shorter the barrel, the more unburnt powder will reach the end and burn outside of the barrel...some ammo has a flash suppression built in.

In the home there is nothing better than a good PUMP shotgun.

1st, the sound of the pump is enough to make many bad guys poo their panties and get on the floor, then there's the fact that Pumps don't malfunction like a auto shotty can. YOu can use a dbl barrel or single shot, but then you are limited to 1 or 2 shots, reloading takes time you may not have. A shotgun wound leaves nothing to be repaired. I worked on a guy who had a close range 12 guage to the shoulder...he lost his arm as there was literally no bone to work with. he had 2 thin strips of skin holding his arm to his torso.
A few inches more inward and his ribcage would have looked the same...he'd have died.
Well put! You hit the nail on the head regarding the sound of the pump. I'm not a blood thirsty killer or anything but if someone hears that noise and continues to enter . . . my consceince is clear.
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You should get a police report! The guy is flat out a dumb-ass. There is no margin of error when it comes to firearms. He did not take proper precautions to protect others when doing whatever it was he was up to.
He was seat cover hunting! Bagged it on the first shot. J/K glad he didn't hit anyone!
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They used to use rocksalt as anti riot loads back in the day before they came up with bean bags and fun stuff like that.
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Who do you think is most likely to shoot a hole through BlackHawk's floor again:

a. A person who doesn't own a gun.
b. A person who owns a gun, but has shown himself to be a responsible, mature gun owner.
c. A person who has in the past shoot straight up into their ceiling at 12:30 in the morning .
I would have to say option A with option B a close second as per my previous comment regarding learning lessons.
We know nothing of the person in this incident yet.
I would certainly be having a talk with the person to make sure he takes a gun safety course if he intends to stay in the building and keep firearms.

When you said statistically, I thought you meant you had seen statistics on Recidivism of people who have experienced a negligent discharge. I would have been very interested in such data.
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As for the shotgun debate. I would highly recommend not using rock salt or bird shot. Using something with the intent to cause pain and injury can lead to serious trouble with anti gun judges, prosecutors and trial lawyers.
If you encounter a person you believe to be a threat to yourself or your family you need to stop that person as fast and as effectively as possible, not piss them off. Bird shot is designed to take down small birds. not full grown men, it won't reach vital organs and will most likely cause a very painful, but not debilitating wound. The same goes for rock salt. A wounded animal is very dangerous, A wounded human even more so.
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As for the shotgun debate. I would highly recommend not using rock salt or bird shot. Using something with the intent to cause pain and injury can lead to serious trouble with anti gun judges, prosecutors and trial lawyers.
If you encounter a person you believe to be a threat to yourself or your family you need to stop that person as fast and as effectively as possible, not piss them off. Bird shot is designed to take down small birds. not full grown men, it won't reach vital organs and will most likely cause a very painful, but not debilitating wound. The same goes for rock salt. A wounded animal is very dangerous, A wounded human even more so.
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Update: So I did file a police report and I had my landlord come over and showed him what happened. He is going to take legal action and move the guy out. This guy has still not face to faced with me yet which I think is totally cowardly. But my landlord did say that the guy is in the military (as am I) so I may do a little research and do some CPT to CPT and let his boss know what happened. The biggest thing that bothers me is this guy didn't even care to find out where his bullet went, or talk to me about it at all, which makes it really seem like he doesn't care. And yes the gravity of the situation has been growing on me by the hour. I think I will start sleeping with my helmet and IOTV on. Also at least he didn't shoot my Jeep!
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I can't help but think he must feel like a complete tard knowing what he did.
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BlackHawk: I'd also like to congratulate you on writing the best post title I've seen. "My Neighbor Shot My Car Seats" is guaranteed to get everyone to read this thread.

It's brilliant marketing. I tip my hat.
Like I said thank God the seat covers weren't in the Jeep. Or maybe it is a message that seat covers don't like to get washed!

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Glad to har you are OK. The dumbass needs to pay for his stupidity. Purely luck or the love of God that nothing else transpired.
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Amazing how many things the bullet went through.
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That's a fact! Remember there is an empty apartment between me and this guy as well. It looks like it was tumbling pretty well by the time it hit my stuff. It looks like it kind of lifted the book up as it went through it. I can't believe it didn't hit a pipe or anything, I am going to try to dig it out of my ceiling tomorrow, if it is possible.
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I say put the covers back on the Jeep, how many people are bad ass enough to have real bullet holes in their vehicle?
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As for the shotgun debate. I would highly recommend not using rock salt or bird shot. Using something with the intent to cause pain and injury can lead to serious trouble with anti gun judges, prosecutors and trial lawyers.
If you encounter a person you believe to be a threat to yourself or your family you need to stop that person as fast and as effectively as possible, not piss them off. Bird shot is designed to take down small birds. not full grown men, it won't reach vital organs and will most likely cause a very painful, but not debilitating wound. The same goes for rock salt. A wounded animal is very dangerous, A wounded human even more so.
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Uhh. I can say first hand that at close range with a decent choke, birdshot can kill a human....quite easily actually. Being from the ER I've seen it. Box o truth aint got shit on first hand experience from Emergency room.

having said that I must confess I have 00 buck loaded in my 12 guage - I have confidence in my aim. But to those who live in apts or have other people in their house, I'd put a load of bird shot in first (unless you've shot competitively enough to have confidence in a high stress environment to shoot accurately when your adrenaline is pumping hard and fast.)
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i have mentioned my home invasion experience here before......

a pair of scissors is better than nothing when someone has a gun on you. but i opt for my double barrel 12 gauge with #4 (works on varmints too) and my 9mm with 17 hollow points loaded in it. of course, i live out in the country, so im not too worried about penetration. bird shot would be effective if its at close enough range, but i dont want to be that close to the guy if i can help it.



in my case, we fired at the guy with a .45 Long Colt, shooting reloaded 250 grain jacketed hollow points. when you point a hand cannon at someone that has a 7 1/2" barrel, they start paying attention to you.

ill plus 1 the "avoid rock salt". all you'll do is piss the guy off and end up needing a lawyer......


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Part of one of my experiments was to see how many layers of sheetrock a bullet would go through. Lets just say you'd be amazed....

In reality, placement matters much more than the round that you go with. A buddy of mine in a ER 100 miles north of me saw a girl who came in with a pellet gun wound to the head. It was a pellet pistol, and it killed her. Placement is everything when you are talking about the fatality of a weapon.

My handgun of choice depends on my attire, but its always between a Glock 26 (of course with police grade hollowpoints), or a Smith and wesson ultralight hammerless J frame (38 +p hollowpoint)

Many people think you'd be crazy to carry a 5 shot revolver as your carry gun, but in reality, if the threat is so large I cannot take care of it with 5 shots, I'm screwed anyway.

OP definitely let us know what comes of all of this.
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Glad no one was injured or killed. The perp is a dumbass.


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Part of one of my experiments was to see how many layers of sheetrock a bullet would go through. Lets just say you'd be amazed....

In reality, placement matters much more than the round that you go with. A buddy of mine in a ER 100 miles north of me saw a girl who came in with a pellet gun wound to the head. It was a pellet pistol, and it killed her. Placement is everything when you are talking about the fatality of a weapon.

My handgun of choice depends on my attire, but its always between a Glock 26 (of course with police grade hollowpoints), or a Smith and wesson ultralight hammerless J frame (38 +p hollowpoint)

Many people think you'd be crazy to carry a 5 shot revolver as your carry gun, but in reality, if the threat is so large I cannot take care of it with 5 shots, I'm screwed anyway.

OP definitely let us know what comes of all of this.
^^This. G26 is also my carry weapon, Ruger LCP depending on dress. Wife's home defense gun is the Ruger GP100 w/ .38spcls.

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