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Old 04-05-2010, 08:36 PM   #1
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Navy Recruiting Functionaries.

First off... Thank you Larry for my new favorite term! Functionary!!!


I'm about to put a permanent indention shaped like my fist into this guys face of he tries to pull anymore $hit with my stepson! He's about to read a book my foot wrote called "On the Road to IN YOUR A$$"!

Long story short. I was a recruiter at one point in my military career. So I'm not your run of the mill dumb ass parent.

Jon went to a school and graduated two years prior to this school moving and changing it's curriculum to suit the dregs of society. Now, when you say the name of his high school, you get eyes rolled at you. Like I said, he went to this school BEFORE that transition.

When he went to the Recruiting station initially he had the unlucky experience of getting this empty headed, slack jawed functionary as a recruiter. He flat out without even cracking a book or looking ANYTHING up told Jon NO. He went on to say that since Jon attended a "tier 2" school that the Navy didn't want him.

WHAT?! It's the fu$&ing Navy not Harvard!

Anyway. I looked at Jon's diploma and it was just that. A diploma. Not a GED, not an Independent Study Certificate. No, it was an honest to goodness, good at every other recruiting office diploma.

I made several calls to the school and did a crap load of research and then took Jon back to the recruiting office myself and tried to make this slacker understand. No dice.

Well, I know how the chain of command works. So I called the Naval Recruiting District and talked to a very helpful Chief who confirmed my research then put me in contact with the Recruiting Station's supervisor.

Well, without going into detail, there were (as with EVERY potential recruit) some things we needed to take care of first. Jon maned up, pressed ahead and got it all taken care of.

The Chief (local supervisor) I've been in contact with instructed me that since the school had made the change even after his graduation AND due to formalities the Naval Education Coordinator would have to review it and sign off on it. Hell, I understand this I had two file cabinets in my office with CYA (cover your ass) files in it. No biggie.

Well, turns out this initial recruiter is all butt hurt over me going over his head to the Chief and calls Jon today to tell him he's a No Go! He went on to tell Jon that his college credits didn't count. WTF?! Don't count?! When I was recruiting, we didn't give a rats a$$ if you had masters in basket weaving they still counted as college credit. Like I said before, it's the military NOT and Ivy League School for gods sake!

When Jon told me, I found this funny since the Chief had been in constant contact with me since the beginning and I hadn't heard $hit.

I called the Chief to find out just what the hell is goin' on. The Chief didn't know squat and hadn't heard anything back from HQ on Jon's educational audit.

The Chief went on to say that the paperwork had been submitted earlier today and the recruiters in the office don't have the authority to make that kind of decision. Well DUH!

I then told him that Jon had received a call from his subordinate that had pretty much destroyed any excitement that Jon had for joining the Navy.

See, we've been juggling Jon's excitement through this thing. He gets discouraged VERY easy and I don't want him going out and doing anything stupid while we're this close.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall tomorrow when the Chief comes in the office...


Oh and don't think this is over. After we get this crap all figured out and Jon is off to MEPS, The Master Chief and the Chief Recruiter down in San Diego at the Recruiting District HQ are both gonna get a call and a scathing email outlining this idiots unwillingness to do his job!

So boys and girls. Today's word is FUNCTIONARY. Say it with me!

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Comrade recruiter there has a good steady party job and cannot be bothered with this stuff.

That bleeding *O&(@#^@*# has gone and decided that the recruiting job he has would be a lot easier without all the recruits!

I wish I was still on active duty right now because my Khaki'd ass would have that guys Captain asking some difficult questions!

Functionary bast@rd!!!

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Maybe you better do this to him. No on second thought wait til your son is sworn in and then do it!
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I'm speechless as to why this recruiter would attempt a derail like this. It's been a long hard road these past years and I'll be damned if I'm going to let Jon sink again. I can look at Cain's face and know this isn't over, not by a long shot.
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I totally agree Larry.

Man... You know, I wasn't a recruiter for very long. It was the last job I had in the closing months of my career. But, if I didn't make mission, it was my a$$. I couldn't imagine setting around, doing crosswords and turning people away. $hit, I was looking behind bushes and turning over rocks to find recruits.

At this point, I'm starting to believe it would be easier as an American to join the Russian Navy!
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He'll try it because Cain is interrupting his "function" and how dare he...Cain can't bypass this person who is undoubtedly (in his mind) the most important person in the process.

Just a young and inexperienced replica of some of the tools I have to work around (and I mean "around").

Don't give up the ship. Damn the torpedo's. You may fire when ready Gridley. Screw that guy.

All good nautical ideals!
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I would recommend watching Down Periscope. IT will give you lots of ammo lol well maybe not just a great laugh and I believe larry was the radio guy .
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Sparky? Me? NO!

My Dad was a radioman tho...might explain a few things...
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Do disrespect to what you did or have done ccain but recruiters today are the asswipes of the services. I grew up in a Military household. I was born at the Army Ordinance School in MD as my dad did his 23 years active after college. I even did the ROTC gig while in college myself. Still pissed I dropped out and had to give up my slot to Benning for jump school between sophomore and junior years.

But I had the distasteful pleasure of dealing with one of these "functionary" recruiters with one of my Eagle Scouts. We get invited to the kids enlistment party. Asked my wife WTF how a kid with shin splints (long distance runner) could pass the medical to enlist. So after a couple of beers I asked the kid and his recruiter how the hell he passed the medical....to which they smiled at each other and in stereo I got, "Don't ask...don't tell. Told the asshat what I thought of him and what a disgrace to the uniform I thought he was and promptly left the party.

Crying shame what this has come down to.
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No disrespect taken.

Earlier in my career in Military Medicine, I was tasked with knowing the ins and outs of medical requirements for accession and continued world wide service.

One of the things recruiters tell perspectives is "If they don't ask you about anything at MEPS for gods sake DON'T offer up any info". One of the recruiters jobs however is to pre-screen recruits. I.E., If you come to me with a history of cancer, a visible limp or missing more than one joint on any of your fingers, you're turned away. Other surgeries and broken bones and what not, as long as they aren't giving you any residual issues are no problem and will be further investigated by the docs at MEPS. Things may have changed, but currently shin splints aren't a non-accessible condition.

But, if there's ANYTHING I learned during my military experience it's this:

There IS a waiver for EVERYTHING! You just have to know who to "go around" to get it!
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In todays society we need parents that fight for their children. I don't go with step parent. If you are willing to take on the job you are a parent. I don't doubt that Chief, Senior Chief and Master Chief are the backbone of the enlisted ranks but I also know they will keep this problem you are having hidden at their level. Take this to the LT. level or higher. Always keep your hard card for June. A letter from a Senator requesting a review of applicants file is a interesting thing to watch. We were allowed 48 hours to answer a Senate request. Good luck and thank you for being a Parent.
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Good for you for going to bad for your step son! Take him to the Air Force recruiter..... The Navy's no fun anyway And the AF food is better.....
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^ SPPHHH desk Jockies lololololololololololololol I will agree to the food tho.
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Good for you for going to bad for your step son! Take him to the Air Force recruiter..... The Navy's no fun anyway And the AF food is better.....
Yeah. I was Air Force for 6 years and finished up my career in the Army. But his head and heart are set on the Navy. The AF food is really good Stateside. It sucks in theatre... Actually, it was nonexistent most places I went. The Army chow overseas rocks! Well, ANYTHING is better than an MRE!

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^ SPPHHH desk Jockies lololololololololololololol I will agree to the food tho.
We preferred the term "Chair Force". Thank you very much!
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So cain is that why in your pics that is why your always standing? Sitting is all you did your entire life till you retired? !!! J/K
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I prefer Army Air Corp. ...Damn OPS carrier.
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^ haha distorted all the pics of you too are sitting in a really big armored truck lol.
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ooohhh, can i drive the big armored truck? would be great with the traffic around here.
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Ya some recruiters suck. I know when the time came for my B-bilit option I was dreading recruiter school. Then a beautiful thing happened.....my MOS's monitor caught it and said no due to the fact we were deploying and I was a crew chief and held ordinance specialist billit. Our monitor did not like giving us up.
Now that my son is 15 we are looking into him joining the Air Force. Can't wait to see what the recruiter is going to try and pull.
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Don't they take the ASVAB anymore? The Navy took a look at that and my PSAT score and sent a Rear Admiral to my house to invite me to Annapolis.
This was during the cold war though and they were looking for officers for subs.
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That's just not right Chris, I'd be more than pissed off myself too. If the Navy thing doesn't work out, have him consider the AF too, maybe even the Coast Guard. The CG has a really good thing going. I will say the USAF and USCG are pretty demanding too though.

But wow, I can't believe his recruiter is being such an ass about his HS. He must be ahead of his recruiting quota or has his head up his ass... though we all know it's the latter.
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So I am done with my shinanigans for a while back on topic. In IL right now they are putting gang bangers in the military and having gang fights all over the place. Do they have a high school diploma?? I mean come on!! Why do the people that actually want to do something have the hardest time getting there goal? IT will all work out just might take more effort then the rest. Glad your being persistent. I think I am making a phone call to a very good family friend who is a master chief and give him the story and let him help if you would like
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In IL right now they are putting gang bangers in the military and having gang fights all over the place. Do they have a high school diploma?? I mean come on!!
When I was stationed at Pendleton we had a unit that we called Ninth Crime due to the fact thier barracks had a couple drive bys on it. Unfortunatly These type of people get in.
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I don't know why he's set on the Navy, but here's an option. The modern Coast Guard has some of the the most high speed, low drag law enforcement units you can imagine. They do counter-piracy operations, anti-drug operations and have real world missions. I've got friends who transfered from the Army to the Coast Guard and love it. Check it out. The best jobs in the military are the ones no one talks about.
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They too have become quite picky.Went thru this with my friends son,took almost a year for his navy retired grandpa to get him in the door,and they were serious about a minor in pos.He made it,but grandpa had to pull some strings.
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Well, here's an update.

I just got off the phone with Chief Carter and was given some very disturbing news.
The Naval Educational Coordinator denied Jon's Diploma and supplemental College credits. Saying he needs 7 1/2 more credit hours before enlisting him due to the Diploma being a Tier 2. (he already had 7.5 credit hours from the Junior College) BULL$HIT!!!

His Diploma and HS transcripts show that he completed ALL required classes to graduate! Period.

ALL of the education one gets in High School doesn't equate to 15 college credit hours.

So, at this point ANY and ALL enthusiasm Jon had about getting into the Navy is gone or fleeting at best. It's only a matter of time before he slips back into the "comfy" spot with his chrony friends and is on the drug wagon again.

To pour salt into the wound... It was Temecula Valley School District who pretty much demanded that Jon go to this school, promising his parents a "Regular" Diploma and all the rights and privileges therein. Boy-O-Boy they sure blew some smoke up their arses! If you ask me, TVSD owes Jon about 7 1/2 college credit hours.
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Chris, not sure if this is up his alley, but has he considered the CA. Conversation Corp. It is hard work for low pay. My brother was involved for a while, but did not have the ambition to keep with it. Here is a link if you or he is curious. State of California - California Conservation Corps

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Hey Chris, I will call my family friend tonight who is a master chief. I will see who he knows and if he can help.
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Chris, if you want to, call me and I'll ask the Chief a couple of pointed questions.

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