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Old 08-27-2008, 11:33 PM   #1
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This is not a Jeep question, but I know some of the people on WF are mechanics so I thought I'd ask here.

Some A-hole tried to siphon gas out of my wife's Chevy Astro van while she was at work. When he couldn't get a hose down the filler, he (I assume it was a he) crawled under the van and cut the filler connector hose. He was interupted and ran off, but there is a big (2" x2") X cut through the hose. I crawled under it and tried to get the hose off only to find that there is a second hose inside of the bigger one. I'm assuming that since the inside of the bigger hose is dry it is the vapor return and the inside hose (not cut) is the fuel filler hose. I would suspect the the check engine light would come on like it does when the gas cap is left off, but it doesn't. The gas gauge was where we would suspect it to be, so I think the person got away with nothing.

My question is: is it safe to drive like this? She drove it home from work and didn't have any problems. But she has to go to work tomorrow and I cant get her car to the shop to fix it untill Friday.

Thanks in advance.... //Brian.
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Old 08-28-2008, 01:03 AM   #2
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Hey Brian,

It should be fine to drive until you get it to the shop. The way it looks, you're exactly right, the inner filler hose allows for fuel fill, the outer house is there for vapor release using the gap between the two hoses for vapor return. As for the check engine light not coming on, I think the in tank sensor needs to have unequal pressure on both lines to read a fault. So it's understandable why the light isn't on.

The only real thing I would look out for is not filling the tank all the way up until it's fixed. There is a possibility that the gap between the hoses also works as an overflow for filling the tank.

Sorry to hear that her van was vandalized! People suck!

Let me know if you need anything!

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Thanks Chris. Yep, people suck. This is going to end up costing me a fortune to fix and the hospital just points to the sign that says "Not Responsible..." that is posted in the employee lot. My comp insurance will cover it, but I have a $500 deductible.

There has been a theft problem in this lot for months. In March, several people lost catalytic converters (?) and then in June it was air bags. The hospital has put up electric gates and cameras in the Doctor's lot, but so far nothing in the employee lot (where all the problems are). I'm going to call hospital administration today and threaten to sue them or something....
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Catalytic converters are a hot commodity these days! I am a police officer and apparently people steal them to turn into salvage/recycle yards for some rare expensive metal that is inside.

I talked to a guy a few weeks ago that was having gas from a lawnmower can stole once a week. I recommended filling it up halfway with gas and adding bout 3 cups of sugar to it!
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Thanks Chris. Yep, people suck. This is going to end up costing me a fortune to fix and the hospital just points to the sign that says "Not Responsible..." that is posted in the employee lot. My comp insurance will cover it, but I have a $500 deductible.

There has been a theft problem in this lot for months. In March, several people lost catalytic converters (?) and then in June it was air bags. The hospital has put up electric gates and cameras in the Doctor's lot, but so far nothing in the employee lot (where all the problems are). I'm going to call hospital administration today and threaten to sue them or something....

You go boy! The hospital has some nerve. I guess nurses are expendable... That is so typical. The doctors don't want their cute little Porsche's stolen or vandalized. And what if there is a psycho lurking about the the employee lot?
Or what if a nurse or CNA comes out and catches someone breaking into their car? Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

I guess it's gonna take someone getting hurt or killed for things to change! That was the exact way the hospital I worked at was. Cameras for the Docs, but the rest had to rely on a 78 year old, half crippled security guard.

One of the enterprising nurses took an opportunity one evening when coming in for the graveyard shift. She had had the window smashed in her car and had things stolen out of it on more than one occasion.

This night, she wasn't gonna just lay there and take it... She got right up on the bumper of a doctor who was pulling into the doctors lot and followed him in before the arm came down. It damn near caught the rear corner of her car... But they must have an electric eye on it or something.

You need a pass to get in to the doctors lot, but the electric eye opens the arm on the exit. So she had no trouble getting out in the morning. They tried to reprimand her for it, but she said "OK, then the next time, the Hospital can pay for the repairs for my car and offset the increase in my insurance premium!" "If I have to work here, I shouldn't have to pay higher insurance to do so!"

The hospital then started issuing passes to the RN's until the security on the employee lot was in place. Let me tell you, the Doctors threw a fit! The did not want anyone outside of their species or "under them" having the same rights and privileges!
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Catalytic converters are a hot commodity these days! I am a police officer and apparently people steal them to turn into salvage/recycle yards for some rare expensive metal that is inside.

I talked to a guy a few weeks ago that was having gas from a lawnmower can stole once a week. I recommended filling it up halfway with gas and adding bout 3 cups of sugar to it!
I worked at Nissan over the summer
at one of our storage facilities all the Rogues and Titans had their converters stolen (there were about 40 vehicles)
it sure was fun to drive though, loud as shit lol
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So what's wrong with a "Cute Little Porsche"
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My condolences to the astro van...
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