From here.

Former Californian, nice detail.

Well so she knew. I had assumed she simply didn't notice. Still somewhat funny. I heard she refused briefing before the Couric interview. Anyway, Alaska is a much nicer place than DC.

You've been insulting from the moment you decided to jump into the political discussion. You started by claiming we were all ignorant and hadn't educated ourselves, Then you moved on to calling people racist for pointing out the double standards the media likes to pussy foot around and then you insinuate I think anyone that doesn't agree with me is ignorant. It doesn't matter if you couch your insults in polite speech, they're still insults and in every case you were wrong.

You also keep saying we're in the minority. Yes, we were in the minority of voters in the presidential election but if you look at other issues around the country such as California's proposition 8 you'll see that the country is still right of center. Our side ran an incredibly poor campaign. McCain was a horrible candidate and was in fact my last choice for candidate. I like him only slightly more than I like Bush and I despise Bush.
I recognize that we lost and Obama is now our president elect. I don't have a problem with that. However, that doesn't change the debate on the issues.

Grow a thicker skin if you wish to play politics on teh interwebs.

See you are such a die hard Republican that there is no debating with you because your skin is too thick. You despise Bush and yet only like McCain a little more so you defend him? Man, that makes a lot of sense...
Now, one thing we agree on is the poor campaign that McCain ran. If he had talked throghout his campaign as he talked during his concession speach...maybe he had a better chance. Speaking of proposition 8, who cares about what California does with their gay marriage fiasco?

i do.

this stuff is important, and indicates the direction of our country. at least they got that right, and arizona voted it down, and at least my state voted down to make a new state constitution

Lol, I'm not a republican.
I'm registered independent and tend libertarian. I'm a social liberal. I don't give a rats ass what people do in their bedrooms, the funkier the better as far as I'm concerned.
I favor decriminalization of pot.
I oppose abortion but don't campaign on it because it's not a particularly hot issue for me.
Fiscally, I'm a little to the right of Attila the Hun and that tends to scare most republicans.
Had you paid attention, I've criticized McCain more than once. The only time I've defended him is when people post misinformation. Call him on the issues all you want as long as you do it accurately.
During the primaries I was pretty hard on him, I even called him a traitor to his party at one point. Once he was chosen as the Republican candidate I supported him as the only possible way to prevent Obama from winning.

We probably agree on quite a bit, my only real issue with you is the condescending attitude and the insults.
As I said before, I love a good debate, I enjoy having my position challenged in a logical manner. We can do this in a respectful manner and enjoy ourselves or we can get nasty. It's your choice.

Apparently quite a few conservative Californians. I used it as an example to show that the country is still right of center. If a conservative issue like that can win in a liberal bastion like California it says something about the country as a whole.

Now we are on the same page. I apologize for my insults, I was out of line.
Your comment about "the funkier the better", made me laught my ass off!! Again, I apologize for insulting you. Debate on my good man

I have to disagree with you saying it's important. There are definitely bigger issues at hand than gay people getting married.

i agree and lets not get into that. its a whole other topic that really in all actuallity is of no importance to anyone other than gay people( was that offensive?)

No not offensive to me at all, I am not gay. BTW, I am not by any means saying I agree with gay marriage.

i am not for gay marriage and i don't think by saying that i have committed any wrong

this is a whole 'nother topic, but without opening it up i will touch on it, most people don't investigate this much.

for the gay people that just wanna be free to do their thing, i don't care, i don't want to see it, or agree with it, but they have that right. no prob.

try doing some searches for the groups that are the ones pushing this agenda, its not the passive gay people just mentioned. they have ambitions of "recruiting" our children, they hold assemblies in our public schools speaking graphically about their "lifestyle" to children far to young to hear it, without parental notification. and they speak in a manor to sway impressionable children's thinking.

this is important to me, they have no right to force that on me, or my children. so for a liberal state such as california, where all that crap comes out of hollywood, to vote that down is important to me.

this falls on the same lines to me as uninformed voters. try to check it out a little, and see what those groups want to do.

and i stress again, i am not speaking of the passive people just wanting their rights, i'm speaking of the ones trying the hardest, that have an agenda, and of coarse they won't come out and say it.