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11-05-2008, 04:35 PM
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95% of black voters who voted, voted for obama. was that just because they educated themselves on the issues, and agreed with his policies???? obviously no.
chris rock said if obama wins no black people will be working today, get your own luggage in the plane. i thought this was funny, but it came true, every where today, no black people working, or answering their phones. i see about a dozen metal scrappers come scrounging around every day, today none, and next door was a huge pile of scrap metal. that stuff never sits for more than half an hour, before a scrapper comes and gets it, and they're all black by the way.
i've watched news clips all day long, every single black person that spoke brought up what he did for their people, or something with the words black, or african american. even the educated ones, and politicians, condoleza rice for example.
but this has nothing to do with race.b
at least the mexicans/illegal imigrants were protesting when they marched in chicago, and no mexicans were working that day a year or so ago in this area. what are the african americans protesting????
are we scared to call this out???
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11-05-2008, 04:58 PM
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I think it is because black people are so happy a black man is President they are celebrating, not protesting. They think Obama is going to solve all of their problems, which he is not. He is going to get shot. Regarding the Mexicans, if I had been there and seen one of those folks stomping on the American flag I would be in jail right now. For a very long time. I saw a video of it and I have never been that pissed off in my life. Some dumbasses were spitting and stomping on our flag. A country that they obviously wanted to move to, and like living in, or else they would go back to Mexico. They are fawking ignorant. I am not racist but that is just retarded that they would show their hatred of a country that is making their life better. All because we are trying to keep the rest of their family out of the USA.
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11-05-2008, 05:00 PM
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^right on, and the blacks protesting was sarcasm. i'm just saying there's no point for their behavior. and the other thing about the mexicans when they did that, is i got to see tons of other people picking up their slack at their jobs that day.
i think people of other races that voted for obama went to work today.
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11-05-2008, 05:07 PM
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11-05-2008, 05:18 PM
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i hope this isn't getting inapropriate. if it is i'm sorry, and i'll stop, but i do think we are free to discuss these facts, this has no slant or agenda, i am trying to be factual.
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11-05-2008, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ol' Red He is going to get shot. | Be careful, that statement can now be construed as a felony. It's specific, and stated as a fact, not something you "think" might happen.
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Originally Posted by chezuki Be careful, that statement can now be construed as a felony. It's specific, and stated as a fact, not something you "think" might happen. | I agree. This kind of stuff doesn't need to be posted. It's cool if that's what you think, but that's the kind of stuff that will get a guy in trouble once he's posted it on a public forum. I'm with you, Chezuki. I didn't vote for Obama, and I sure as hell am skeptical of him, but he's still an American and a threat to him (my new boss) is a threat to all of us in the military..............even if we don't like him.
(I'm trying not to be an Obama hater. It's hard. One day at a time.)
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11-05-2008, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc I agree. This kind of stuff doesn't need to be posted. It's cool if that's what you think, but that's the kind of stuff that will get a guy in trouble once he's posted it on a public forum. I'm with you, Chezuki. I didn't vote for Obama, and I sure as hell am skeptical of him, but he's still an American and a threat to him (my new boss) is a threat to all of us in the military..............even if we don't like him.
(I'm trying not to be an Obama hater. It's hard. One day at a time.) | what is the general feeling from those in service right now?
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11-05-2008, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jpdocdave what is the general feeling from those in service right now? | Based on the reactions observed by me at this post, this is the general feeling:
Most blacks and minorities are ecstatic. Most Anglos are not. I know of at LEAST a dozen service members who voted for Obama soley based on his color. I asked them why they voted for him and to the man they all said the same thing first.......he's black, and we need a black President. I asked if there was anything else, and most of them didn't even know where he stood on any issues, they voted for him because he was black. I think they would have voted for Snoop if he was campaigning. I'm really hoping that this isn't the mentality of the general population of blacks and minorities, that most of them researched his stand on issues and agree with him........that he didn't win this election based on his color.
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11-05-2008, 06:25 PM
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According to the polls I saw last night roughly 60% of the voters that elected Obama were white. Watching his speech last night I saw a lot the white people crying (literally) with joy.
The black people were very excited but not many tears, except Jesse Jackson who MF'd Barrak at the convention.
This was just my observance.
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11-05-2008, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc Based on the reactions observed by me at this post, this is the general feeling:
Most blacks and minorities are ecstatic. Most Anglos are not. I know of at LEAST a dozen service members who voted for Obama soley based on his color. I asked them why they voted for him and to the man they all said the same thing first.......he's black, and we need a black President. I asked if there was anything else, and most of them didn't even know where he stood on any issues, they voted for him because he was black. I think they would have voted for Snoop if he was campaigning. I'm really hoping that this isn't the mentality of the general population of blacks and minorities, that most of them researched his stand on issues and agree with him........that he didn't win this election based on his color. |
You know that is the only reason. It was a vote based solely on the color of a mans skin!
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11-05-2008, 09:28 PM
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sadly it is the truth. sure 60% of whites voted for him, if you say so, obvioiusly they like him for some reasons, and they think he'll bring change or whatever. but the 95% of black people that voted, voted for him, any idea why? like cavediver said, they don't have a clue other than he's black. watch the news, thats all they say.
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11-05-2008, 10:12 PM
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look basically everyone who has voted in the past has voted agian...the difference is all the black people that have never voted, voted this time, this election is one of the biggest dissapointments in my understanding of human behavior. as soon as i found out he was elected i wanted to find out what the african american mentality was...so i watch bet and i got so damn pissed off at what was said. this country is in a sad state of affairs and now freaken anybody can just come in this country like its theres. so there are more votes for the second go around! i don't care at all that he is black, but i am pissed at how the black community has acted over this, as for the mexicans stompin on the flag, the should be shot and thrown in the ocean from where as far as i am concerned they came from.
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11-05-2008, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc I agree. This kind of stuff doesn't need to be posted. It's cool if that's what you think, but that's the kind of stuff that will get a guy in trouble once he's posted it on a public forum. I'm with you, Chezuki. I didn't vote for Obama, and I sure as hell am skeptical of him, but he's still an American and a threat to him (my new boss) is a threat to all of us in the military..............even if we don't like him.
(I'm trying not to be an Obama hater. It's hard. One day at a time.) | All I can say is I'm glad I'm not part of a Secret Service Protective Detail anytime soon!
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11-05-2008, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by yjwrangler look basically everyone who has voted in the past has voted agian...the difference is all the black people that have never voted, voted this time....<snip> | I'd like to see some sort of stats on this because my understanding is that this is simply untrue. There was a large youth vote this time. And the youth vote mainly went to Senator Obama.
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11-05-2008, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc (I'm trying not to be an Obama hater. It's hard. One day at a time.) | I'm going to pick on you, Cavey, because you used the word. Why would you hate a man you've never interacted with or was it just a figure of speech? Because you and I both know hate clouds judgment during a conflict.
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11-05-2008, 10:56 PM
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yes, unfortunately a large portion of my youthful peers are ignorant idealist.
I only hope that some of them will be a little more in touch with reality when it is time for my generation to take the reigns.
And as far as the reaction of the african american community, I too was dissapointed, now I know alot of it has to do with the fact that I live in a college town, but there were hoodlums out until all hours of the night, being obnoxious, acting like it was the second coming. They had no respect for others property (or sanity for that matter). That was dissapointing, and that is the most discouraging thing, because it is hard to beleive from watching the behavior of some of these people that Obama even cares about being my president (a white, upper-middle class, protestant male). Realistically, Obama doesn't give a rats ass about me, and as president, I have a hard time beleiving that he will really look out for my interests.
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11-05-2008, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 2much yes, unfortunately a large portion of my youthful peers are ignorant idealist.
I only hope that some of them will be a little more in touch with reality when it is time for my generation to take the reigns.
And as far as the reaction of the african american community, I too was dissapointed, now I know alot of it has to do with the fact that I live in a college town, but there were hoodlums out until all hours of the night, being obnoxious, acting like it was the second coming. They had no respect for others property (or sanity for that matter). That was dissapointing, and that is the most discouraging thing, because it is hard to beleive from watching the behavior of some of these people that Obama even cares about being my president (a white, upper-middle class, protestant male). Realistically, Obama doesn't give a rats ass about me, and as president, I have a hard time beleiving that he will really look out for my interests. | I was wondering how things would turn out, from what I've heard, there were some small pockets of general hooliganism, but none of the widespread mayhem some people had been predicting. I wonder if things would have been as calm had it gone the other way?
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11-05-2008, 11:09 PM
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Yeah, I live right in the middle of a small pocket. But we kept it under control, I go to school at Georgia Southern University, and alot of us good ole boys down here take advantage of the second amendment, as well as the right to defend your property, needless to say, we were able to stand up for ourselves...
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11-06-2008, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sgnellett I was wondering how things would turn out, from what I've heard, there were some small pockets of general hooliganism, but none of the widespread mayhem some people had been predicting. I wonder if things would have been as calm had it gone the other way? | i have some police friends that had to help out in chicago during his outdoor party. the news reported that everything went smooth, and hardly any arrests.
here's the rub. they were instructed to keep arrests down, and keep the attention down, they said things were nuts, and they had to make tons of arrests and it was crazy. but the media played it off as everyone was nice and behaved.
i don't know what you call that, don't think its comunism or socialism, but when they are covering the truth from the public that is screwed up.
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11-06-2008, 07:29 AM
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I didn't vote for his ass but the only time I had ever considered the color of his skin is when someone (black or white) felt the need to express how they felt about it. I could care less if he were purple but it continues to get thrown up in everyone's face. Now I am going to be forced to listen to the racial trash along side of the political bashing that we all are forced to endure. Shitty politics aside... this is going to be a rough time for all who get dragged into the racial BS of it all.
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Originally Posted by tiny terror I'd like to see some sort of stats on this because my understanding is that this is simply untrue. There was a large youth vote this time. And the youth vote mainly went to Senator Obama. | Actually, on the radio yesterday they had new stats that showed the youth vote was actually lower than in the last two elections.
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11-06-2008, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tiny terror I'm going to pick on you, Cavey, because you used the word. Why would you hate a man you've never interacted with or was it just a figure of speech? Because you and I both know hate clouds judgment during a conflict. | Hate was a poor choice of wording on my part. I don't think I've ever even had that emotion. I'm very skeptical of his promises. I think it takes a special kind of liar to be a politician, and I get a feeling for this guy that he's all smoke and mirrors. I hope I'm wrong, I really do........for this country's sake.
I certainly don't think McCain was/is the perfect person for the job....far from it, in fact. I think he was the better candidate. But the country has spoken. We're all in it together and it's time to pick ourselves up by the bootstraps and get moving in the right direction.
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11-06-2008, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by kg4kpg Actually, on the radio yesterday they had new stats that showed the youth vote was actually lower than in the last two elections. | I have looked everywhere for the stats on this year's election, but my google powers have failed me. Did they happen to mention where their statistics came from? Quote:
Originally Posted by cavediverjc Hate was a poor choice of wording on my part. I don't think I've ever even had that emotion. I'm very skeptical of his promises. I think it takes a special kind of liar to be a politician, and I get a feeling for this guy that he's all smoke and mirrors. I hope I'm wrong, I really do........for this country's sake. | I figured you meant exactly that. And you're right, we need to be skeptical, regardless of who we voted for.
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I find it interesting that during Os outdoor rally the media would cover up the amount arrests and such. What Im really worried about is who he is going to pick for his cabinet, if there the wrong people for the job this country can get worse real quick.
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11-06-2008, 09:28 AM
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well tiny think what you want as i will! but all we are doing here is regurgitating. Whatever politicians and the news media tells us is what we are going to believe. I formed my idea on my own, just a skeptical Americans theory. I am not thrashing anyone's ideas, opinions, or beliefs i was just letting all my anger out. I don't discuss politics with friends or family that are living near or around me, it is rude and pointless in my opinion and outside of this thread i have tried to keep my mouth shut! so sorry for offending anyone, not my intention!
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Originally Posted by yjwrangler well tiny think what you want as i will! but all we are doing here is regurgitating. Whatever politicians and the news media tells us is what we are going to believe. I formed my idea on my own, just a skeptical Americans theory. I am not thrashing anyone's ideas, opinions, or beliefs i was just letting all my anger out. I don't discuss politics with friends or family that are living near or around me, it is rude and pointless in my opinion and outside of this thread i have tried to keep my mouth shut! so sorry for offending anyone, not my intention! | Dang YJ, you didn't offend anyone. I'd sincerely like to the see the statistics but can't find any that are broken up other than Dem/Repub. I'm interested. Especially in my state, we had some props pass that were clearly more in line with conservatives and I'm a little taken back that the state did that and then turned blue. I'd expected it to be different.
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i've read a bunch of really interesting post about obama and his political ideals. he does have a lot of charisma I watch many of his speeches and read many online. he is very clear spoken and can make you believe in every word he says! was Hitler and Fidel any different? Now i don't honestly believe that this could ever come of this nation but democrats (no offense) now control all parts of the government!!! so everything is one sided. so what now?
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Originally Posted by kg4kpg Actually, on the radio yesterday they had new stats that showed the youth vote was actually lower than in the last two elections. | from the LA times...
"some undeniable numbers: Rock the Vote, a nonpartisan political advocacy group that targets younger voters, reported 2.5 million new registrations from its efforts this election season, more than doubling its 2004 registrations. And turnout by voters younger than 30 in the 2008 primaries and caucuses nearly doubled that of eight years ago, according to the University of Maryland's Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning and Engagement, which studies youth voting patterns.
here's the link if people want to read more: For youth, voting is the in thing - Los Angeles Times
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