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Old 06-08-2013, 03:12 PM   #31
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Gee golly gosh Blue Ridge...we're just all so lucky to have YOU here to set us all on the straight and narrow. Thank goodness you are such an expert on the Constitution...
If your 4th amendment rights mean so little, why not also relinquish your 1st amendment rights...

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Old 06-08-2013, 03:15 PM   #32
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You would be surprised. The NSA is building/built a new Data storage facility in Utah.
I suggest you look it up.
Woodlawn? I saw the movie

Again, what exactly would they do with such a database? Not saying its right to do it, but I think a lot of folks overestimate these government facilities... I've seen firsthand how overestimated the military ones are.

They just aren't that organized...

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Woodlawn? I saw the movie

Again, what exactly would they do with such a database? Not saying its right to do it, but I think a lot of folks overestimate these government facilities... I've seen firsthand how overestimated the military ones are.

They just aren't that organized...
No. Not "woodlawn." Actually bother to look up the facility I am talking about.
Military and Gov facilities are different animals.
You can store A Ton of data rather easily.
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They just aren't that organized...
Hence the massive waste of money. Boston still happened, huh? Sandy Hook, Aurora, Ft Hood, Seattle, Santa Monica, Virginia Tech, etc, etc, etc all happened. Even with these awesome protector class citizens Protecting and Observing. But now every child born in America is 50,000$ in debt, because we made it so safe.

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Gee golly gosh Blue Ridge...we're just all so lucky to have YOU here to set us all on the straight and narrow. Thank goodness you are such an expert on the Constitution...
I'd be happy to discuss whichever part of the 4th amendment you are having trouble with. Where, exactly, is the confusion? I can even point you to more scholarly individuals who can provide ample case law to reinforce our current interpritations. I didn't just decide this one morning there, hoss.
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I just wonder how many people that argue so strongly for the preservation of their rights actually spend an equal amount of time actually doing something about it...
Luckily for me, a good number of the weapons that I have are legally unregistered, so I have no fear of someone coming to get what they dont know I have or that they cannot find... If it gets to the point that they come looking for the few they may know about, I have an exit strategy for that also!
I just dont care to spend my time worrying about something that I really have no control over. My family and I live a good life, we enjoy or time together doing the things that we enjoy (such a trail riding, surfing, camping, shooting, skiing, traveling the world, etc.)
Dont bother asking me any more questions, or making any more assumptions about me... I will respect your opinion and leave it at that.
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I just wonder how many people that argue so strongly for the preservation of their rights actually spend an equal amount of time actually doing something about it...
Luckily for me, a good number of the weapons that I have are legally unregistered, so I have no fear of someone coming to get what they dont know I have or that they cannot find... If it gets to the point that they come looking for the few they may know about, I have an exit strategy for that also!
I just dont care to spend my time worrying about something that I really have no control over. My family and I live a good life, we enjoy or time together doing the things that we enjoy (such a trail riding, surfing, camping, shooting, skiing, traveling the world, etc.)
Dont bother asking me any more questions, or making any more assumptions about me... I will respect your opinion and leave it at that.
When you think it is time to bury them, it's time to dig em up. That's all I gotta say. Other than that, a lot of people have a wavering line in the sand, so to speak.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:08 PM   #37
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I just wonder how many people that argue so strongly for the preservation of their rights actually spend an equal amount of time actually doing something about it...
Luckily for me, a good number of the weapons that I have are legally unregistered, so I have no fear of someone coming to get what they dont know I have or that they cannot find... If it gets to the point that they come looking for the few they may know about, I have an exit strategy for that also!
I just dont care to spend my time worrying about something that I really have no control over. My family and I live a good life, we enjoy or time together doing the things that we enjoy (such a trail riding, surfing, camping, shooting, skiing, traveling the world, etc.)
Dont bother asking me any more questions, or making any more assumptions about me... I will respect your opinion and leave it at that.
Interesting: You have no fear of your guns being taken because you have hidden 'legally unregistered' guns, but have nothing to fear from the govt tapping your phone, computer, email, following you, or surveiling you because you are law abiding. I guess that is as close to a contradiction of logic as you will actually admit to. Even so, I have a problem with the unconstitutional pissing away of our nations wealth while spending 1.5 trillion $ a year beyond our means. Even if it did work, which it doesn't.

I haven't made any assumptions, only conclusions based on available context. I'll keep them to myself.

We are all entiltled to our opinions, you yours and I mine. The 4th isn't exactly a head scratcher, though - there is not much opinion room on this one. Even the author of the Patriot Act said it is an abuse of power, and he wrote the words being used to justify it.

I do spend ample time talking to peers, friends, neighbors, politicians at all levels, political groups, etc in order to ensure We the People have an input into our government. I can't speak for others. The problem is those lobbyists for companies like Carlisle Group have much deeper pockets, due in large part to their generous no-bid contracts awarded over the last 12 years, primarily overseas. For instance, Bamers may have drawn our Afghani presence down to roughly 65,000 troops, but he also increased 'private contract security' (i.e. Kraft International, Blackwater, etc) to over 108,000. Once the mil-ind complex starts buying Lindsey Grahams and John Mccains, they have to be voted out before we can again have due representation of our citizenry. Yes, I am very vocal about the issues facing our Nation. Btw, these security forces are very similar to those used in the first Iraq war by the US - their employer charges hundreds per hour to John Q Taxpayer, but doesn't pay their goons that. They are for profit armies, make no mistake about it. War is their industry, and peace is their enemy.

No questions in there; have a nice day, and happy jeeping.
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came across my facebook today... kinda summed up my take on this thread in one picture...
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came across my facebook today... kinda summed up my take on this thread in one picture...
So true. Ben is the man.
He's said so many things that have come true today.

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