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Old 05-19-2013, 06:54 AM   #31
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I posted earlier that I didnt like it.. and now that I see others did it doesnt make it right either. I have just as much outrage towards them.. and I voted for some of them. whether its 2, 3 or 4 wrongs doesnt make it right for BOB to do it too.
Gee, we have a government that spends trillions of dollars a year but they cant go to a local sporting goods store and get a pop up shelter to cover the speakers up when they go outside to address the Rose Garden in the rain?
I stand by my earlier comments.
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It is actually in the Marine code of conduct, that a Marine, while in uniform cannot carry an umbrella. It is a direct violation of the code of conduct. Stupid yes, but its in there. And an aid should be the one holding a fricking umbrella. JMO

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If this is all you people have to be upset about I would have to say your lives must be pretty f**king great and maybe you should just shut the f**k up and enjoy the fact that because of that man and the office he represents and that Marine and all the Marines HE represents you have the luxury to be upset about something so assinine and trivial.

And as far as all the Obama haters go, I would remind you all of the same thing I reminded the Clinton haters of - -

Like him or not, he managed to obtain the highest elected office in our country, and that is just slightly more than you or I have managed to accomplish in our lives, so I think your criticism is coming from a less than informed viewpoint.
So to sum up: never criticize someone who has accomplished more.

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William Henry Harrison (February 9, 1773 – April 4, 1841) was the ninth President of the United States (1841), an American military officer and politician, and the first president to die in office. Harrison died on his 32nd day in office[a] of complications from pneumonia, serving the shortest tenure in United States presidential history. His death sparked a brief constitutional crisis, but that crisis ultimately resolved many questions about presidential succession left unanswered by the Constitution until passage of the 25th Amendment.

Now, on to the good stuff!
Interesting, and yet after the 25th we wound up with an unelected White House, Ford/Rockefeller in '74. VP Agnew quit, so Nixon appointed Ford to VP. Then Nixon quit, Ford became president, and appointed Nelson Rockefeller VP. Rockefeller, grandson of John D and former NY Gov, also passed away unexpectedly (in '79, as former VP) but he passed with a 'secretary' present - apparently he had to be 'made proper' before paramedics were allowed in the room, and it took over an hour for that call to be placed. Official COD? Heart attack during intercourse. His wife, Happy, was not.
Not sure what any of this has to do with the price of tea in China, but it's neat none the less.

It is hilarious how presidents, having accomplished 'so much more than me', have terrible trouble operating those pesky umbrellas. I guess they were too busy at becoming accomplished to master the elusive umbrella.

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Gee, we have a government that spends trillions of dollars a year but they cant go to a local sporting goods store and get a pop up shelter to cover the speakers up when they go outside to address the Rose Garden in the rain?
I stand by my earlier comments.
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Or here is a CRAZY idea, let's go inside when it rains! How about the White House Press Briefing Room? Not formal enough... ok, how about the East Room? I mean, there's 130 more rooms to choose from - or outside. They picked outside; a very accomplished decision, to be sure.

My military buds tell me they were taught early if you disagree with a superior, don't change your answer to meet theirs. It is far better to stand your ground and be resolute in your opinion than to waiver at the request of others.
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I would no problem saying anything here directly to you, and yes, I grew up serving this country, I gave 20 years of my life involuntarily and then another few voluntarily, so yes, I did. If you have a problem with someone else having an opinion then it's a good thing you got out since you didnt take the service oath seriously.
Did I say you could not have an opinion? Didn't think so. Maybe you should re read your post where you are telling everyone to shut the f**k up. That my friend is telling someone that they should not have an opinion. Now when someone tells me that, then yes I have a problem.

How in the hell can someone serve 20 years involuntarily?
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As much as he irritates and disappoints me I realize that,unfortunately, our Marine's have been tasked for the safety of the POTUS and I would not want them to be maligned for doing the job assigned to them. The bigger issue I had about this photo was his ability to require them to assist him from getting wet, yet his failure to protect the men in Benghazi.

I also found this photo but freaking hilarious!
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How in the hell can someone serve 20 years involuntarily?
I was born on Craig Air Force Base in 1968, I lived in almost every state and 4 foreign countries, I never had a home town, a life long friend, a school I was in at the end of the year that I started a year in. I had a D.O.D. education (cold war style), I had D.O.D. dental and health care (doctors and dentists who made about as much as a truck driver), I had no control over when I left all my friends, where the next friends would be, how long I would live there, I involuntarily gave my entire life to the military, no choice, and when I returned to the United States at 20, I enlisted voluntarily for more.

So, did I serve my country? Yes I did all my life I supported the military 100%, I've seen people NOT in uniform give up a hell of a lot more of their dignity than holding an umbrella at the behest of our government and military. If this is what outrages you, then you are a stereo-typical stupid american.
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I was born on Craig Air Force Base in 1968, I lived in almost every state and 4 foreign countries, I never had a home town, a life long friend, a school I was in at the end of the year that I started a year in. I had a D.O.D. education (cold war style), I had D.O.D. dental and health care (doctors and dentists who made about as much as a truck driver), I had no control over when I left all my friends, where the next friends would be, how long I would live there, I involuntarily gave my entire life to the military, no choice, and when I returned to the United States at 20, I enlisted voluntarily for more.

So, did I serve my country? Yes I did all my life I supported the military 100%, I've seen people NOT in uniform give up a hell of a lot more of their dignity than holding an umbrella at the behest of our government and military. If this is what outrages you, then you are a stereo-typical stupid american.
So is that why you have a bad attitude? Cry me a river. I never said anything outraged me. What does outrage me is when people like you think you can tell others to shut the f**k up. I guess your parents didn't have time to teach you manners. It's hard for me to believe you have any military experience with a mouth like that.
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LMAO, I have a bad attitude? Not really, just always a little short with people who have so little life of their own that they can whine about what others are willing to do. And if you "can't believe I have military experience with a mouth like that" then you are an ostrich.
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Well this is the USA. People have opinions. Get used to it. The men I served with didn't hide behind a computer and cuss people, but they were real men.
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Could someone explain why they arent allowed to hold an umbrella?
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Have any of you former military persons who take issue with this actually gone back and read the Oath that you swore when you enlisted? In case you have not, here it is...

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

So what about obeying the orders of the President and the orders of officers appointed over me??? And I have spoken to a JAG officer today and he concurs that the oath we took supersedes regulations (UNLESS the command given is patently unlawful).

YES, there are regulations that say that a Male Marine should not hold an umbrella, but because this would not be considered a patently unlawful command the order given by the President (or any officer who may have given the order) is valid.
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Did you click on the link in the first message and read the story?
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Next OB will be having our Marines holding umbrella's for his Muslim Brotherhood Cabinet Members!
What he did, may, or may not be within Military regulations, but either way, it is his arrogant way of expressing another insult! Showing us that he is above and beyond holding his own umbrella!
We had all better be careful what we are saying about him, or he will be sending the IRS after us............
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Petty.

All of the things that the VILLAGE IDIOT did during his rein of terror, and for which he is now considered a war criminal, and this is all that you right wing wackos can come up with? Oh yeah,,, and lets not forget that he must be a muslim since his father was from Africa.
He isn't perfect,,, but who was?
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Next OB will be having our Marines holding umbrella's for his Muslim Brotherhood Cabinet Members!
What he did, may, or may not be within Military regulations, but either way, it is his arrogant way of expressing another insult! Showing us that he is above and beyond holding his own umbrella!
We had all better be careful what we are saying about him, or he will be sending the IRS after us............
X2, OD your comments are right on target!
Hopefully some of these far left wing liberals, will wake up some day and take the blinders off! But they probably won't, because they prefer us that do work too share the wealth with them so they don't have to work, "The Obama philosophy". Maybe their thinking way of life is the best. I think that I should just quit my job and see if Obama will come to my aid and take care of me. But I had better think on that one, and analyze it well, since I'm in the middle and not a registered liberal, or a illegal, then I may starve to death so I had better just keep working and share the wealth.
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Have any of you former military persons who take issue with this actually gone back and read the Oath that you swore when you enlisted? In case you have not, here it is...

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

So what about obeying the orders of the President and the orders of officers appointed over me??? And I have spoken to a JAG officer today and he concurs that the oath we took supersedes regulations (UNLESS the command given is patently unlawful).

YES, there are regulations that say that a Male Marine should not hold an umbrella, but because this would not be considered a patently unlawful command the order given by the President (or any officer who may have given the order) is valid.

Well then, there you go.
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Im in the military. He is the Commander in Chief. What's the big deal?? I see no issues, for any service member, especially -white house staff holding an umbrella for the Commander in Chief.
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All of the things that the VILLAGE IDIOT did during his rein of terror, and for which he is now considered a war criminal, and this is all that you right wing wackos can come up with? Oh yeah,,, and lets not forget that he must be a muslim since his father was from Africa.
He isn't perfect,,, but who was?
I think I'll start a pool. You in?
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I figured you right wing nuts would LOVE the opportunity to employ another Marine...

Do you, or do you not, feel the exact same resentment towards Imperial Czar Reagan for doing the EXACT same thing? If not, why the hypocrisy and double standard? Do you normally treat people with such varying restrictions?

I'll hold my breath for an answer. Lol.

As I have said, I don't like it, and I explained why. Beyond that, if you buy into our whole 'America is strong by appearance' thing, you really should have a stereo-typical warrior, like a Marine in dress blues, protecting YOUR commander. It sends the message that not even water will affect our president, he has real M.F.ers to protect him. Even from rain. Especially when a foreign head of state is present, as was the case.

Bitch about what Bamers has ACTUALLY done wrong, or don't. But stop crying about mulsims, birth certs, scandalous govt that he had nothing to do with, cia operations that weren't publicised, healthcare congress c***blocked, etc, etc, etc. When the highest ranking senator says his only job is making the president lose his, you are a fool to follow him. He, like Bamers, does not care about you for half a second. Yet nobody wants to say anything about the actual crimes he has committed - if Bush is a war criminal, Obamas failure to prosecute makes him guilty just the same (by law). If torture is illegal, he is guilty. If killing an American without due process of law is unconstitutional, he is guilty. If imperalistic meddling and shadowed arms deals are illegal, he is guilty. If launching missles from an aircraft into citizens of a foreign nation from that nations airspace without consent or a declaration of war is illegal, he is guilty. But we talk about umbrellas and cabinet members.
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The carnival barkers who strap on their false indignation and feed this type of BS red meat to the extremes of either side are the true anti-Americans. Fanning the flames of division is their meal ticket and their only motivation is to pad their pocketbooks with sponsors' dollars vs. helping the country solve the real problems it faces. Some have proven that one only needs to keep a few hundred thousand people pissed off in order to make a healthy living.

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Is it against Marine Corp regulation? Yes it is and someone should have caught that before it happened. What is the difference some of you ask in the current POTUS picture and the others? Well for one it is a Marine in the current picture and Army in the others. Can anyone find the reg stating no male in the Army can carry an umbrella while in uniform?
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Is it against Marine Corp regulation? Yes it is and someone should have caught that before it happened. What is the difference some of you ask in the current POTUS picture and the others? Well for one it is a Marine in the current picture and Army in the others. Can anyone find the reg stating no male in the Army can carry an umbrella while in uniform?
10. ASU ACCESSORY ITEMS AUTHORIZED FOR WEAR IAW AR 670-1, WEAR AND APPEARANCE OF ARMY UNIFORMS AND INSIGNIA.
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UMBRELLA, BLACK (FEMALES MY CARRY AND USE AN UMBRELLA, ONLY DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER, WHEN WEARING THE DRESS BLUE ASU. UMBRELLAS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED IN FORMATIONS OR WHEN WEARING FIELD OR UTILITY UNIFORMS)
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Call em equal or QUIT CRYING. Amd me, the non-Marine, non army guy "loon", is the only one to see that the Marine is using the wrong hand? Shouldn't it be in his left hand? Derp.

Edit: The USCG, Navy, and Airforce do allow umbrella use under circumstance.
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Remind me again why the hell this matters?
And what does it have to do with anything?

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I figured you right wing nuts would LOVE the opportunity to employ another Marine...

Do you, or do you not, feel the exact same resentment towards Imperial Czar Reagan for doing the EXACT same thing? If not, why the hypocrisy and double standard? Do you normally treat people with such varying restrictions?

I'll hold my breath for an answer. Lol.

As I have said, I don't like it, and I explained why. Beyond that, if you buy into our whole 'America is strong by appearance' thing, you really should have a stereo-typical warrior, like a Marine in dress blues, protecting YOUR commander. It sends the message that not even water will affect our president, he has real M.F.ers to protect him. Even from rain. Especially when a foreign head of state is present, as was the case.

Bitch about what Bamers has ACTUALLY done wrong, or don't. But stop crying about mulsims, birth certs, scandalous govt that he had nothing to do with, cia operations that weren't publicised, healthcare congress c***blocked, etc, etc, etc. When the highest ranking senator says his only job is making the president lose his, you are a fool to follow him. He, like Bamers, does not care about you for half a second. Yet nobody wants to say anything about the actual crimes he has committed - if Bush is a war criminal, Obamas failure to prosecute makes him guilty just the same (by law). If torture is illegal, he is guilty. If killing an American without due process of law is unconstitutional, he is guilty. If imperalistic meddling and shadowed arms deals are illegal, he is guilty. If launching missles from an aircraft into citizens of a foreign nation from that nations airspace without consent or a declaration of war is illegal, he is guilty. But we talk about umbrellas and cabinet members.
If you want to use birth certificates or umbrellas for your choice in the pool, put them in the wild card spots

Look, the primary reason that I don't like the guy is that he's unqualified for the job. The primary role of the president is to LEAD. He isn't doing it. The reason that the cabinet members are getting hammered is that they are making decisions that should have been made by him. His primary excuse for these scandals has been "I didn't know". If he didn't know, then why the hell are we paying him?

As for the Birth certificate issue, I didn't care about it until the White House produced an "official copy" of his birth certificate that was a poor PDF production. » New Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
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