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Old 01-22-2012, 07:45 PM   #61
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He is a She and I have a I6 thank you very much not that it helps with stock gears and over sized tires!
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:56 PM   #62
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I bet we all have been let go with warnings before.

Once I was pull over a told I had 15 minutes of a daytime speed limit before I would be ticketed.

On one other occasion I was given a warning for doing 95 in a 70.

And I've been ticketed for doing as few as 5 over.

Bottom line, we get plenty of chances and training. If you speed, be ready to pay.

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Old 01-23-2012, 06:56 AM   #63
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All I'm trying to say, is what else do you expect, the majority of the time it's all about money, not safety. If your friend or loved ones going 10 over are you saying anything? NO, and the same goes for seat belts. Look at the revenue these campaigns create for the county's and states. No one learns a lesson from a speeding ticket.
I agree with you that there are probably some jurisdictions where revenue from tickets are a factor in why some departments write tickets, but I think those areas are in the minority.

People seem to think that as long as THEY are speeding it's okay, since they are such experienced and considerate drivers, it's the OTHER guy that ought to be getting the ticket, cuz he/she is clearly a maniac who is going to kill somebody.

Accident here last week killed two teenaged girls. Dry, country road at 3:30 pm, pickup rolled over, no seat belts.

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Old 01-23-2012, 07:21 AM   #64
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While I'm all for supporting DDs (and I get to play this part a lot as the only non-drinker in my group of friends), it doesn't give you a superhero status on the road. I used to deliver human tissue/ transplant body parts for a living, most of the time with a very strict schedule due to the nature of the cargo. I would still get pulled over and ticketed if I was speeding and rightfully so. You gotta deal with the speed laws. They exist for a reason.
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Speed doesn't kill, it's all about the accident and the vehicle. The speed doesn't play as big of a roll as you portray. Cars have gotten 1000 times safer since the 55 mph speed limits. I did a report on it. In Montana they had a highway that had a speed limit of "safe and prudent" the amount of fatalities dropped significantly after changing the speed limit to that. The reason? People knew what was going on and payed attention! The accidents that did happen weren't as fatal as the ones that happened prior. Speed kills is a myth that was used to try to scare people into driving slower nothing more. The data that backed it up? There was none.
Good point, except for one thing. He was driving a Wrangler.
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Good point, except for one thing. He was driving a Wrangler.
I'd rather be in a JK than a 67 mustang when it crashes. It's ratings are all good and acceptable....which is better than the classic cars got when the speed limits were made.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:35 AM   #68
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What the f happened to giving someone a fing break?

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If it's any consolation, on Sunday monring at 0200 hours, I pulled over a 18YOA guy driving 45 in a 25. He was drunk and stoned, getting a HJ/BJ from his 17 year old GF while driving.

The GF was really drunk and stoned, a few minutes into the stop, she was puking all over the place and rolling all over the ground.

A bunch of beers strewn all over the car... marijuana pipe.



A called everyone's parents in leiu of taking everyone to jail/juvie.


I destroyed the drug contraband, gave disposition of the girl, car and beers to the girl's father, and gave the boy a ride home.



I think that qualifies as a break. I gave a damn good warning. I explained that if they ran over some wino crossing the street, they'd be imprisoned for manslaughter after the prosecutor saw the drugs & alco in their blood. The girl's father is USMC for life, and IMO she'll get worse from him than the juvie court system. The 2AM phone call from the police, "Sir, your 17YO daughter was picked up in South Phoenix... drunk, stoned, and giving a BJ to some guy who was driving her car. I need you to respond and take custody of her. Otherwise she goes to juvie, and then I have to file 4-5 criminal charges against her for booking. I'd prefer to let the parental unit do the discipline and not charge anything."


I'll upload the audio later and link it. It's pretty funny when the boy tries to explain why he's driving at double the speed limit with his pants down. His drugged up GF just comes out and admits she was pleasuring him, LOL.


I wish I had audio AND video. It woulda been stellar.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:38 AM   #69
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DaisyCutter - You restore my faith in good cops. I've known enough bad ones over the years that it's good to hear that there are some of you who work with the system and not for it. Now, if only I could convince the cops around here to quit pulling me over for DWT...
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If it's any consolation, on Sunday monring at 0200 hours, I pulled over a 18YOA guy driving 45 in a 25. He was drunk and stoned, getting a HJ/BJ from his 17 year old GF while driving.

The GF was really drunk and stoned, a few minutes into the stop, she was puking all over the place and rolling all over the ground.

A bunch of beers strewn all over the car... marijuana pipe.



A called everyone's parents in leiu of taking everyone to jail/juvie.


I destroyed the drug contraband, gave disposition of the girl, car and beers to the girl's father, and gave the boy a ride home.



I think that qualifies as a break. I gave a damn good warning. I explained that if they ran over some wino crossing the street, they'd be imprisoned for manslaughter after the prosecutor saw the drugs & alco in their blood. The girl's father is USMC for life, and IMO she'll get worse from him than the juvie court system. The 2AM phone call from the police, "Sir, your 17YO daughter was picked up in South Phoenix... drunk, stoned, and giving a BJ to some guy who was driving her car. I need you to respond and take custody of her. Otherwise she goes to juvie, and then I have to file 4-5 criminal charges against her for booking. I'd prefer to let the parental unit do the discipline and not charge anything."


I'll upload the audio later and link it. It's pretty funny when the boy tries to explain why he's driving at double the speed limit with his pants down. His drugged up GF just comes out and admits she was pleasuring him, LOL.


I wish I had audio AND video. It woulda been stellar.


Facts and Stats : Drowsy Driving – Stay Alert, Arrive Alive
This link will take you to an article about driving fatigued. Gives some facts and figures. The OP states that he had been awake for 22 hours..being awake for 24 hours is the same mental attentiveness as a person with a BAC of .10 and goes up from there depending on the rest of the sleep history.
As a LEO both military and civilian, the traffic stop is where we find many many perpetrators of other crimes during the interview with the driver. Our first clue is somebody driving excessively..

And to add a cliche here:
Ignore the rules at your peril.

Lastly OP...dispite the events... you did a great thing and your friends owe you BIG!!
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Drowsy driving is a legitimate issue. I don't know whether it can be quantified as with alcohol with a BAC. I know people who can't operate on less than 8 hrs rest per 24 hour period. Last week I did my 40 hour week in 62 hours, and slept for all of 7 of the 12 I wasn't 10-8 at work. It's not enjoyable, and at times I'm drowsy. I typically park and watch, versus a circulatory patrol, at that point. Still, sometimes you've got to perform. I was exiting the freeway, 1/2 mile from the substation... last hour of my week, when the 0530AM hot tone came out. I got right back on the freeway, 120mph for 10 minutes all the way back to my beat and was the second unit on scene to an alleged home invasion. I get there and find a guy who's face is cut up, and he won't aid in investigation or prosecution, and won't even let fire treat his wound. Case closed on a spontaneous face laceration. Literally I was driving there physically clapped out. I had one hand on the wheel, thinking to myself that I didn't want to take the effort to reach out to the wheel with the second hand. I'm just so comfy and warm in my seat. I ain't gonna lie, I got my jacket on my lap, and all but the arm on the steering wheel is warm under the jacket. But at that speed I need a second hand to brace myself if I have to swerve abruptly. So I nutted up and used two hands, and did what I had to to get there safe... for nothing, again.

Normally I don't drive that fast, but on the rare occasion you're 15 miles away, the speed actually makes a difference. Sunday pre-dawn traffic is pretty light.
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Well, you were way over the limit in a Jeep full of drunks. Drunks who no doubt were a bigger distraction to the driver than sober people. Drunks who you are now responsible for should the worst happen. Man up and just pay it.

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