Sandy Recovery - We can help - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > General Discussion Forums > Off-Topic

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 11-02-2012, 09:40 AM   #1
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 190
Sandy Recovery - We can help

All,

Please please please take a moment to read this.

I live in CT and although I was affected by Sandy, I'm very fortunate to have gotten my power back and not suffered any damage to my house.

The same cannot be said for far too many people. So many have lost their vehicles, belongings, and entire houses. Many more are still without power.

I would like to organize as many people as possible to volunteer their time, vehicles and help to drive out to these areas devastated by the storm and do anything we can to help.

I'd like to head out early Saturday morning (11/3) and start with Staten Island. I want to load up with Blankets, Diapers, Baby Formula, Jeans, t-shirts, socks, Hoodies, jackets, etc, just fill all our vehicles with this stuff, and in an organized group, distribute these supplies to anyone in need.

We certainly can't help everyone, but we can help put a dent in it.

I know it may seem like we can't do much, or someone else is going to help so we don't need to, but we all need to realize that we're all a part of something bigger than just helping ourselves.

We will absolutely be told that we cannot pass into the area, but we have vehicles equipped to handle driving through rough conditions, and I refuse to be denied the ability to help.

Please sign up if you're definitely willing to give up your entire day tomorrow (Saturday) and meet somewhere along the way in CT, NJ, NY on the way to Staten Island.

I don't know anyone out there, and have no agenda other than to bring some humanity to this horrible tragedy and extend a hand as I would wish to be extended to my family if we were in harms way courtesy of such a disaster.

Please sign up if you're willing to help. No money is needed other than you filling your tank with gas, and maybe bringing some extra fuel to keep yourself fueled up.

markmdz is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 10:08 AM   #2
Jeeper
 
whetstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,066
Wish I was closer...

whetstone is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 10:10 AM   #3
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
Turbostixxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 19,712
As do I, i would do it in a heart beat
__________________
_______
/l
,[____],
l---L -OlllllllO-
()_) ()_)--o-)_)

1997 Wrangler SE:4" Lift; 33x11x16; Q9000 Winch
Turbostixxx is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 10:21 AM   #4
Jeeper
 
whetstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,066
One thing, though... I've been involved in several storm/hurricane cleanups as a lineman. Sometimes the volunteers come out in such force they actually end up impeding the clean up efforts. Call an established agency with your plans and list of assets, number of volunteers, etc and they'll usually point you to the area in which you can do the most good.
whetstone is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 10:30 AM   #5
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 190
Quote:
Originally Posted by whetstone View Post
One thing, though... I've been involved in several storm/hurricane cleanups as a lineman. Sometimes the volunteers come out in such force they actually end up impeding the clean up efforts. Call an established agency with your plans and list of assets, number of volunteers, etc and they'll usually point you to the area in which you can do the most good.
Thank you for this. I'll definitely do that as soon as I get anyone other than me, myself and I for this. If I cannot get any real interest, there's a lot of work that can be done right in my neighborhood with a chainsaw to clear trees (the ones not touching the power lines of course).

There are still hundreds of impassible roads due to downed trees, but no homes destroyed like out there at the coast. It's about a two hour drive for me, so it's plenty close enough to make it a day trip.
markmdz is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 12:47 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
whetstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,066
One of the most-appreciated things I ever saw in a storm aftermath was in Ville Platte, LA. I don't remember what the name was, it was the last big hurricane before Katrina. The town had no power, no running water, we had to chainsaw our way into everywhere we went, and it was about 100 degrees outside. At the end of the 2nd day, a large group of local volunteers had gathered at the community center (outdoor pavilion) and cooked enough food to fill up about 400 people. There were a lot of Cajun dishes cooked in 50 gallon drums over propane burners, people handing out bowls, and of course cold beer. That kind of outpouring from the locals fired us all up to work twice as hard and stay on the job longer than any restoration project I'd ever been on.
whetstone is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 03:19 PM   #7
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
Turbostixxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 19,712
From my sister in law in Brooklyn she took these pictures, and uploaded to facebook, thought I would share with you

__________________
_______
/l
,[____],
l---L -OlllllllO-
()_) ()_)--o-)_)

1997 Wrangler SE:4" Lift; 33x11x16; Q9000 Winch
Turbostixxx is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 03:28 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 190
that's exactly what I'm talking about... ...all things that I know I could easily round up just by tapping some of the resources I'm fortunate enough to know.

I just need some people with capable rigs that can get around the areas to help distribute some of this stuff. ...and who are not opposed to help some people move things, including vehicles, back in or out of their property.

I guess I'll just do some local rounds and help with tree removal considering I can't seem to get something together for this. Going about a trip down there solo is not a very smart idea imo.
markmdz is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 04:34 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
stevenstacey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: West Chester, PA
Posts: 41
we are in the Philadelphia area and feel the same way. We brag about our vehicles ability to traverse adverse conditions so lets put our jeeps to good use. We are going to seek out fire companies in south jersey and wheel down some provisions to them.

great post markmdz!!!
__________________
stevenstacey is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 04:38 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
fan of fanboys's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 1,985
Quote:
Originally Posted by whetstone
One of the most-appreciated things I ever saw in a storm aftermath was in Ville Platte, LA. I don't remember what the name was, it was the last big hurricane before Katrina. The town had no power, no running water, we had to chainsaw our way into everywhere we went, and it was about 100 degrees outside. At the end of the 2nd day, a large group of local volunteers had gathered at the community center (outdoor pavilion) and cooked enough food to fill up about 400 people. There were a lot of Cajun dishes cooked in 50 gallon drums over propane burners, people handing out bowls, and of course cold beer. That kind of outpouring from the locals fired us all up to work twice as hard and stay on the job longer than any restoration project I'd ever been on.
Check out these guys: http://operationbbqrelief.org/

They do what you're describing. They also have a volunteer page so if a disaster ever strikes the area you live and you're able you can help
__________________
not
/nät/
adverb
1. used with an auxiliary verb or “be” to form the negative
2. used as a short substitute for a negative clause
"Not actually a backer of this thought"
fan of fanboys is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 06:28 PM   #11
Jeeper
 
whetstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,066
Quote:
Originally Posted by fan of fanboys View Post
Check out these guys: Operation BBQ Relief - Home

They do what you're describing. They also have a volunteer page so if a disaster ever strikes the area you live and you're able you can help
Cool stuff! A friend of mine cooked with them after the Joplin, MO tornado.
whetstone is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 07:28 PM   #12
Jeeper
 
fan of fanboys's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 1,985
Quote:
Originally Posted by whetstone

Cool stuff! A friend of mine cooked with them after the Joplin, MO tornado.
Nice. I'd love to help if wasn't so far away.
__________________
not
/nät/
adverb
1. used with an auxiliary verb or “be” to form the negative
2. used as a short substitute for a negative clause
"Not actually a backer of this thought"
fan of fanboys is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 09:00 PM   #13
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Staten Island, NYC
Posts: 110
Bring gasoline to pass out to people for our generators... that is the hardest thing to get on this island right now..
rastapimpjay is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 09:07 PM   #14
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Staten Island, NYC
Posts: 110
and also perishable food... a lot of the super markets are either closed or haven't gotten much in the way of shipments

and don't expect "offroading" conditions, most of the water has drained back out or debris cleared for emergency vehicles... I went out to the beach first thing tuesday morning and I was going down roads to help trapped people and had to turn around due to downed live power lines and water 50"+....
rastapimpjay is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 09:50 PM   #15
Jeeper
 
Carlsbad0331's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 571
I truly applaud your interest, but as someone who has worked several large scale disaster sites I ask that you refrain from going at this without the support and endorsement of a respected organization.
Your comment that you have a vehicle that is able to get into the area may be true, but there is nothing to say that something bad couldnt happen to you. Then you are lost, in an area you do not know and will need to be rescued also.
Im not trying to dissuade you from helping... THEY NEED THE HELP, and if I were not stuck here in Southern California right now I would be over assisting also. But I have contacts with LAFD, SDFD, USCG and a few more. I would NEVER load a POV and enter in to an area like this.
Start local with cutting the trees!!!
Carlsbad0331 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-02-2012, 10:14 PM   #16
Jeeper
 
BlueRidgeYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,917
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlsbad0331
I truly applaud your interest, but as someone who has worked several large scale disaster sites I ask that you refrain from going at this without the support and endorsement of a respected organization.
Your comment that you have a vehicle that is able to get into the area may be true, but there is nothing to say that something bad couldnt happen to you. Then you are lost, in an area you do not know and will need to be rescued also.
Im not trying to dissuade you from helping... THEY NEED THE HELP, and if I were not stuck here in Southern California right now I would be over assisting also. But I have contacts with LAFD, SDFD, USCG and a few more. I would NEVER load a POV and enter in to an area like this.
Start local with cutting the trees!!!
+1

SAR, recovery, etc is useless without proper allocation of resources. You can't have all diapers in NJ and water in NY. Your efforts are very noble, but without an orginized (ICS, NIMS, etc) system your efforts complicate getting things back on track. Contact the resources listed above by another poster to do THE MOST help you can. Isnt that the goal?

Thank you for your generosity.
__________________
“Coming of age in a fascist police state will not be a barrel of fun for anybody, much less for people like me, who are not inclined to suffer Nazis gladly and feel only contempt for the cowardly flag-suckers who would gladly give up their outdated freedom to live for the mess of pottage they have been conned into believing will be freedom from fear.”
BlueRidgeYJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-03-2012, 10:18 AM   #17
Jeeper
 
BlueRidgeYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,917
Attachment 174805

This is what organized relief looks like. Act local and it frees resources for this type of effort. They hold way more than our Jeeps can
__________________
“Coming of age in a fascist police state will not be a barrel of fun for anybody, much less for people like me, who are not inclined to suffer Nazis gladly and feel only contempt for the cowardly flag-suckers who would gladly give up their outdated freedom to live for the mess of pottage they have been conned into believing will be freedom from fear.”
BlueRidgeYJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-03-2012, 10:23 AM   #18
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
Turbostixxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 19,712
Just got this throught FB as well

__________________
_______
/l
,[____],
l---L -OlllllllO-
()_) ()_)--o-)_)

1997 Wrangler SE:4" Lift; 33x11x16; Q9000 Winch
Turbostixxx is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-03-2012, 10:33 AM   #19
Jeeper
 
BlueRidgeYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,917
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbostixxx
Just got this throught FB as well
Georgia is, at times, a fabulous place to be from.

Kudos beer man, kudos. I love to see private sector come out to support the common man in trouble.

They already shipped 4000 cases, another 10k to be delivered today in NY & NJ. They have shipped 71 million cases of water over the years to disaster zones. They (AB) have already donated 100,000$ to the Am Red Cross for Sandy.
__________________
“Coming of age in a fascist police state will not be a barrel of fun for anybody, much less for people like me, who are not inclined to suffer Nazis gladly and feel only contempt for the cowardly flag-suckers who would gladly give up their outdated freedom to live for the mess of pottage they have been conned into believing will be freedom from fear.”
BlueRidgeYJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-03-2012, 10:57 AM   #20
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
Turbostixxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 19,712
I saw someone earlier blaming bush for Katrina and 9/11 earlier and it made me angry, even though I dont support obama, i would find it ridiculous to blame him for sandy. The same person was saying how donald trump hates NYC because he wont let colbert (i think thats who they said) put his bal*$ in his mouth. Of course this is said because colbert said he would donate 1 mil if trump let him...its ridiculous how stupid the private sector can be too
__________________
_______
/l
,[____],
l---L -OlllllllO-
()_) ()_)--o-)_)

1997 Wrangler SE:4" Lift; 33x11x16; Q9000 Winch
Turbostixxx is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-03-2012, 11:04 AM   #21
Jeeper
 
fan of fanboys's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 1,985
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbostixxx
I saw someone earlier blaming bush for Katrina and 9/11 earlier and it made me angry, even though I dont support obama, i would find it ridiculous to blame him for sandy. The same person was saying how donald trump hates NYC because he wont let colbert (i think thats who they said) put his bal*$ in his mouth. Of course this is said because colbert said he would donate 1 mil if trump let him...its ridiculous how stupid the private sector can be too
I think it is ridiculous to blame any natural disaster on one person. Of course they may have been implying how Bush handled Katrina, which is widely criticized.
Colberts offer to Trump was in response to Trumps offer to Obama. Trump is blaming Obama for Trump not donating $5 million to relief efforts bc Obama won't release his college transcripts. So Colbert was mocking Trump's stupid original offer.
Mark Cuban offered $1 million to Trump's charity of choice if he would shave his head.
Sounds like to me we have potential $7 million to be donated by people pushing a personal agenda and blaming the other person for not agreeing to the offer.
__________________
not
/nät/
adverb
1. used with an auxiliary verb or “be” to form the negative
2. used as a short substitute for a negative clause
"Not actually a backer of this thought"
fan of fanboys is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-03-2012, 12:03 PM   #22
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
Turbostixxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 19,712
Quote:
Originally Posted by fan of fanboys View Post
I think it is ridiculous to blame any natural disaster on one person. Of course they may have been implying how Bush handled Katrina, which is widely criticized.
Colberts offer to Trump was in response to Trumps offer to Obama. Trump is blaming Obama for Trump not donating $5 million to relief efforts bc Obama won't release his college transcripts. So Colbert was mocking Trump's stupid original offer.
Mark Cuban offered $1 million to Trump's charity of choice if he would shave his head.
Sounds like to me we have potential $7 million to be donated by people pushing a personal agenda and blaming the other person for not agreeing to the offer.
Again, Ridiculous how STUPID the private sector can be ya know?
__________________
_______
/l
,[____],
l---L -OlllllllO-
()_) ()_)--o-)_)

1997 Wrangler SE:4" Lift; 33x11x16; Q9000 Winch
Turbostixxx is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-03-2012, 12:17 PM   #23
Jeeper
 
fan of fanboys's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 1,985
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbostixxx

Again, Ridiculous how STUPID the private sector can be ya know?
Agreed. Tho I'd take few jerk offs in private sector over a bloated bureaucratic government most days.
__________________
not
/nät/
adverb
1. used with an auxiliary verb or “be” to form the negative
2. used as a short substitute for a negative clause
"Not actually a backer of this thought"
fan of fanboys is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-03-2012, 12:21 PM   #24
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
Turbostixxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 19,712
Quote:
Originally Posted by fan of fanboys View Post
Agreed. Tho I'd take few jerk offs in private sector over a bloated bureaucratic government most days.
As would I sir. Hear about the Unions in NJ and NY turning away the power companies from Georgia? Telling them to pay Union dues or they can't help...Ridiculousness at it's finest
__________________
_______
/l
,[____],
l---L -OlllllllO-
()_) ()_)--o-)_)

1997 Wrangler SE:4" Lift; 33x11x16; Q9000 Winch
Turbostixxx is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-03-2012, 12:43 PM   #25
Jeeper
 
fan of fanboys's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 1,985
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbostixxx

As would I sir. Hear about the Unions in NJ and NY turning away the power companies from Georgia? Telling them to pay Union dues or they can't help...Ridiculousness at it's finest
I appreciate a unions original purpose but in today's market I am strongly anti-union.
That's unbelievable.
__________________
not
/nät/
adverb
1. used with an auxiliary verb or “be” to form the negative
2. used as a short substitute for a negative clause
"Not actually a backer of this thought"
fan of fanboys is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-03-2012, 01:15 PM   #26
Jeeper
 
BlueRidgeYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,917
Thats NY, home of "I quit unemployment" and more per capita union workers than any other state.

"HEY, youz jacklegsz keep yous' NON union hands' offz myz powerz line, dumb hillbillies. I needs a chainsaws manz up heres, i donts cut no frigin trees'. I just hang wires. Localz 909", said Jimmy.

Children have advocates. In the modern day, employees shouldn't have to sacrifice pay for a collectively funded voice. We should be able to speak together wihout paying a captain.
__________________
“Coming of age in a fascist police state will not be a barrel of fun for anybody, much less for people like me, who are not inclined to suffer Nazis gladly and feel only contempt for the cowardly flag-suckers who would gladly give up their outdated freedom to live for the mess of pottage they have been conned into believing will be freedom from fear.”
BlueRidgeYJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-03-2012, 01:16 PM   #27
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
Turbostixxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 19,712
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueRidgeYJ
Thats NY, home of "I quit unemployment" and more per capita union workers than any other state.

"HEY, youz jacklegsz keep yous' NON union hands' offz myz powerz line, dumb hillbillies. I needs a chainsaws manz up heres, i donts cut no frigin trees'. I just hang wires. Localz 909", said Jimmy.
Ridic
__________________
_______
/l
,[____],
l---L -OlllllllO-
()_) ()_)--o-)_)

1997 Wrangler SE:4" Lift; 33x11x16; Q9000 Winch
Turbostixxx is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-04-2012, 06:17 PM   #28
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 190
hey all, so Blue, you definitely speak truth about the need to have an organized effort, and there are numerous organizations who do exist for purposes such as this and do a fine job at it. The reason behind this thread, and my desire to help, is because of the many areas which were late to receive any sort of assistance. NJ coast, albeit a complete disaster area, was seeing hundreds of trucks, dozers, plows, etc and thousands of people helping out, yet other areas were not seeing half of those efforts.

Anyway, it quickly became clear to me that perhaps this thread (and the others I posted on other forums I belong to) just didn't get enough exposure to get more people, who are local, willing to just drop everything on a moment's notice and head out there.

So, for better or worse, organized or organized chaos, I didn't make the drive out there loaded with supplies. Instead I just stayed local for the most part.

If anything good did come of this, there's clearly some good intent by many members here and perhaps in the wake of another disaster (hopefully never of this scale again), some of us will just drop everything to go offer a hand.

Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback and good luck and Godspeed to those still facing the many challenges of staying warm, fed, in good health, and ultimately rebuilding and recovering from this mess.

As always, the offer always stands to anyone in need. If you are truly in need, and there's something I can do help, don't hesitate. If anyone in NJ is reading this and is without power, or very limited on their supply of gas, jump in the car and head up this way, find a hotel and crash there for a couple of nights. CT's power is nearly fully restored, the gas stations chock-full-o-gas, and plenty of hotel/motel rooms available.
markmdz is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-04-2012, 06:36 PM   #29
Jeeper
 
BlueRidgeYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,917
I don't mean not to help, just recieve CERT or USAR training and join a team before diasaster strikes, then we can unite as we already trained and planned to do.

Again, thanks for your generosity; and acting local is a big sacrifice. Everyone wants to run off and be the hero, but who wants to do his paperwork? Someone has to, though.
__________________
“Coming of age in a fascist police state will not be a barrel of fun for anybody, much less for people like me, who are not inclined to suffer Nazis gladly and feel only contempt for the cowardly flag-suckers who would gladly give up their outdated freedom to live for the mess of pottage they have been conned into believing will be freedom from fear.”
BlueRidgeYJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-05-2012, 03:47 PM   #30
Jeeper
 
whetstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,066
Those union thugs need to go knock on the doors of everyone still waiting for power and kindly explain to them why restoration is taking longer than it should. I'm sure the people would understand...

whetstone is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:52 AM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC