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Old 12-08-2013, 11:26 AM   #1
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Single action revolver...357 vs 45LC

Which is more fun to shoot?

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Old 12-08-2013, 12:27 PM   #2
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.357 gives a louder bang, .45 will leave bigger holes so depends on where your fun is
I like the .357 myself

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Old 12-09-2013, 02:34 PM   #3
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If it's just for plinking I like the 45LC, more traditional. The 357 does have the advantage that you can shoot 38 special in it.
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Old 12-09-2013, 05:10 PM   #4
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I like the .45 with black powder in the cartridges instead of smokeless. The only thing is having to clean the cylinder and barrel after about 15 rounds.
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Old 12-09-2013, 05:55 PM   #5
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I have two 357 Vaqueros for Cowboy Action Shooting. Putting 38 special in them is "funner" because you can shoot faster with less recoil.

I also prefer 357 because ammo is more standard. 357 and 38 special are top sellers, while 45LC is not.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:42 PM   #6
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get both?
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:33 AM   #7
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I ended up with a 45.

I was intent in getting a 357 for all reasons stated and don't disagree with any of them. Especially since I have a friend with a 45 already.

So what swayed me?

My local dealer did not have a 357 and I would have has to wait to order it. This would have also resulted in paying more. The 45 I wanted was on the shelf. I could have lived with ordering though.

45LC ammo has become easier to find since the demand is higher now due to the judge.

The .45 rounds are more "true" to the real colts and they look cooler

I probably won't buy a 357 for a while but I am looking for a Walker.
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:37 AM   #8
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Then there is the whole which is better....Ruger or Uberti argument.

Pretty clear to me that both are great guns. The Ruger would seem to be more reliable. While the Uberti more true to the original. I simply like the look of the Uberti a little better. Uberti tries to copy the original more closely which is why having a 45 makes more sense to me.

This is just a guess, but I suspect that ruger sells a higher percentage of 357s than does Uberti.
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:31 AM   #9
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I'd go 357. For the average guy it makes more sense. The ammo is cheaper, can shoot 38s, easier to find said ammo, ect.

Then again I shoot and load for 38 special, 357 magnum, and 357 Remington maximum so I'm a little bias
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I own a Vaquero in .357 and it's a great piece to handle, but I mulled over a SA in 44 mag for a bit. The main reasons being that 1) it's the big bore like the traditional 45lc and 2) it could shoot 44 special.
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Old 12-15-2013, 03:20 PM   #11
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I have a case of 1000 45LC on the way for 200 bucks.
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Old 12-29-2013, 05:52 PM   #12
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If you have a Ruger, or other modern (recent manufacture) revolver in 45 LC, you can hand load or buy ammo that has more power than a 44 magnum. You can get Garrett hard cast 45 LC which is great for bear. I have a 357, 44 mag, and 45 LC, and all are fun to shoot. But if you need to get "serious", you'll do well with the 45 LC.
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If you have a Ruger, or other modern (recent manufacture) revolver in 45 LC, you can hand load or buy ammo that has more power than a 44 magnum. You can get Garrett hard cast 45 LC which is great for bear. I have a 357, 44 mag, and 45 LC, and all are fun to shoot. But if you need to get "serious", you'll do well with the 45 LC.
I ended up with an Uberti 45 LC. Pick it up on Wed. Decided to stay true to form.

Next gun is a Remmington cap and ball revolver.
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:45 AM   #15
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I have both and prefer the 45. I guess I'm a old guy that likes old things. You can load the 45 from mild to wild...if your gun can handle it. The old style Ruger or the Blackwak is stronger, but even a 45 going 800-900fps will handle anything I run across....I dont live in big bear country. Start reloading your own and it opens a whole new world. I have been reloading and casting my own bullets for years, its a addiction. Good luck.
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I have both and prefer the 45. I guess I'm a old guy that likes old things. You can load the 45 from mild to wild...if your gun can handle it. The old style Ruger or the Blackwak is stronger, but even a 45 going 800-900fps will handle anything I run across....I dont live in big bear country. Start reloading your own and it opens a whole new world. I have been reloading and casting my own bullets for years, its a addiction. Good luck.
Question....what would I need to invest in loading equipment and on a per round basis, have you ever determined what it costs you to load?
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Question....what would I need to invest in loading equipment and on a per round basis, have you ever determined what it costs you to load?
You can start of with a single stage press like a rcbs rock chucker supreme and go the kit route. Has just about everything to start reloading for just under $300 i think. You should get a good electronic scale and a beam scale for a back up. Or just start with the beam scale, under $100. Dies are under $40 if i remember for the decapping and resizing dies. Not sure if that comes with shell holders though. Gonna need a good micrometer( thiink thats what its called) to check your used brass. Eventually need a case trimmer for the brass that gets stretched. Then theres powder, primers, bullets, and finding a round that your firearm likes which entails trying different powders, bullet weights, bullet types, powder charges, different primers, bullet seat lenghts, etc. I say for someone not trying to really eek every bit of accuracy out of a firearm its not worth it, unless you just truly enjoy it. I reload for my .223, .17 fireball, .300 mag, and .243. I wont reload for my .45 its just to easy to dump a double charge into a case and not realize it. Thats my .02
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If you get the 1858 Remington you'll be able to shoot 45LC along with your Uberti. How So you might ask? Heres how.

R & D Conversion Cylinders | Shop R & D Conversion Cylinders at Buffalo Arms

1858 Remington revolver | Cartridge conversion for 58 Remington

You'll also want to reload your 45LC either in BP or reduced "cowboy action" loads for these because you'll need to keep the pressures lower for the 1858 rem.

You can find used gear for not too much either at gunshows, yard sales, ebay. A rockchucker or similar type press will be a great starter. Here is what I recommend as the basics:

Tumbler / wallnut or corncob media (harbor frieght, dillon, midway...) This will clean the brass

Powder scale- To weigh the powder charge

Powder dump- set the grains of powder to dump and re check every 100 rounds or so.

Micrometer- To check the over all length (OAL) of the cartridge (harbor frieght, dillon, midway...)

45LC dies- Carbide (so you don't have use case lube)

Hand Primer- If your press doesn't have one built in

Press- (lymann, RCBS,......)

Brass

Primers- Large Pistol

Powder

Bullets

Powder funnel

Kinetic bullet puller
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Question....what would I need to invest in loading equipment and on a per round basis, have you ever determined what it costs you to load?
These days it's hard to tell if you actually save much. The best part of reloading is being able to dial in exactly what works best for you and your gun. I started because I bought an 1889 Marlin in 38/40 and at a buck a round 15 years ago.......

With 45LC you can cast your own bullets, lube and resize them, and have bullets on hand, if you have time for the work involved. If you have a good source for lead that will cut a lot of cost.
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You can start of with a single stage press like a rcbs rock chucker supreme and go the kit route. Has just about everything to start reloading for just under $300 i think. You should get a good electronic scale and a beam scale for a back up. Or just start with the beam scale, under $100. Dies are under $40 if i remember for the decapping and resizing dies. Not sure if that comes with shell holders though. Gonna need a good micrometer( thiink thats what its called) to check your used brass. Eventually need a case trimmer for the brass that gets stretched. Then theres powder, primers, bullets, and finding a round that your firearm likes which entails trying different powders, bullet weights, bullet types, powder charges, different primers, bullet seat lenghts, etc. I say for someone not trying to really eek every bit of accuracy out of a firearm its not worth it, unless you just truly enjoy it. I reload for my .223, .17 fireball, .300 mag, and .243. I wont reload for my .45 its just to easy to dump a double charge into a case and not realize it. Thats my .02
Thanks great advise!
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Thanks guys.... This is sounding like probably more work than I have the time and space to get into.

The feedback and info is actually what I needed.
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I have a couple of progressive presses setup but for most of my loading I use single stage.
I have one setup for decapping/sizing/priming, then I have a powder thrower, then I have another single stage setup for seating/crimping.
This works great for a 2 man operation for me and my son, he shoots alot also.
Reloading sounds complicated but it really isn't. The main advantage is you get to dial in your load to your gun...and its fun.
Casting your own is even bigger can of worms, possibilities are endless. If you want regular RNFP, they make a mold for that. If you want to step up to some Keith style bullets, they make a mold for that.
You can shoot lead through any gun, its just the velocity you have to watch to stop leading even if you gas check the bullets.
I try to do all my casting and loading in the winter so the summer is spent shooting.
I also load ammo all day because its my job, but I still load at home when I get a chance.

The 58 Remington is the way to go, get a Ruger if you can ever find one, and get the conversion cylinder for it so you can shoot your 45LC ammo in it also.

Ask all the questions you can and we can help you spend your money!
I can help you with my home load data.
I load for 223, 308, 221 Fireball, 256 WinMag, 6BR, 6.5x284, 45-70, 38-40, 7x30 Waters, 7x57, 45acp, 45 LC, 38/357, 30-06 M1 Garand, 8x57....I'm sure I'm forgetting some.
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I would've said to look into 44 mag. I reload for a 7.5" Super Blackhawk and a 4.2" Redhawk. It costs me 9˘ a round to shoot lead. I load lead to 44 spc velocity and copper jackets to as fast as 1500ish. Ruger is the way to go. I wore down the firing pin on my 30 year old SBH, so I mailed it to Ruger and they refurbed it and mailed it back to my door. Beat that. I'm easily more accurate with my SBR than my duty Glock 22. Don't be afraid of the big dog, 44 IMO is easier on the ears than hot 357 mag.
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Daisycutter love your handle. Where did it come from? I'm a AMMO troop so the daisycutter is the Blu82 that was used to clear chopper LZs. A 15,000 bomb with 12,987 pounds of NEW.
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Yeah, I used to work in a metallurgy lab, amd I'd go overkill on my testing, which became known as dropping a Daisycutter. I stole the name for myself a dozen years ago.
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I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk w/ 7 1/2" barrel in 44mag. Freaking beast. I would love to get either a lever action in 44 as well or both pistol and rifle in 357.

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