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Old 06-21-2007, 01:39 PM   #1
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Song from Pink censored in the US?

Hello,

today i´ve read in a newspaper that a song from "Pink" is censored in the US and no radio and TV station plays it.
I´m talking about this song:

Is that right?
The song is #1 all over Europe because she says what nearly all people in Europe think.

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Radio has the right not to play a song and I personally think it's obnoxious anyway. You can't blame all the ills of this country on one man.
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Radio has the right not to play a song and I personally think it's obnoxious anyway. You can't blame all the ills of this country on one man.
I'm not going to open the link here at work, is it an anti-Bush song? Are the liberals taking over Europe now too?? Clinton/Obama or Stalin/Marx, what's the difference. Pink can rot in hell too, what a waste of air.:chair:
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No, it's not anti-bush. Just a ballad asking him how he feels about all the things going on and how he sleeps at night. He didn't cause any of it. People were homeless long before he came into office, people were sick, people were suffering. There were wars, and terrible things going on long before Bush took the helm.

And as far as I'm concerned you wanna talk about all the people in this country that don't have then step up and open up your pockets.

Her song is NOT being censored, it is not being played because Radio and Television has the right not to play whatever they choose not to play.
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Its a crappy song too... I wouldn't play it. Only reason it would be popular elsewhere is because of the subject matter.
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agred i listen to 40 seconds and it almost put me to sleep

of course that was after listeneing to remember the name,
two totally differetn songs
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Meh... Im glad they dont play it on air...
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Pink is a dude. I swear I saw her adam's apple once.
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Pink is a dude. I swear I saw her adam's apple once.
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Hello,

today i´ve read in a newspaper that a song from "Pink" is censored in the US and no radio and TV station plays it.
I´m talking about this song:

Is that right?
The song is #1 all over Europe because she says what nearly all people in Europe think.

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Censorship is a government action, there is no prohibition about playing that song in America.

I have a few questions.

1. which european country has done as much as the United States of America to help the poor?

2. Which european country doesn't censor?

3.does it make europeans feel better about themselves to whine and cry about how evil we are when they don't do shit to solve the problems they whine about?

You know if europe took care of it's own we wouldn't need to would we.

God I get sick of hearing how evil mean and nasty we all are.
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I try to stay out of the political discussions but I will add this: I'd like to see all these damn actors and singers shut the eff up. I really don't see why in the hell they think they know more about what's right and wrong for our country and the rest of the world than we do. Just because they're in public view doesn't mean they need to vomit their views about everything on me. If I want politics I'll turn on C-Span or a news channel. If I flip on MTV or some other entertainment channel then I better see their ass singing, dancing, telling jokes or acting.

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Why don't you tell us how you really feel?
Because I would likely get banned, I try really hard to play nice with other while I'm a guest here.
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There have been several "stars" that I used to enjoy that started thinking that their opions matter more than mine. Somehow, whenever I see/hear them, I can no longer just enjoy their performance, I start to think about the things they said and it ruins it for me. It is a sad thing, to be correct all the time!
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Because I would likely get banned, I try really hard to play nice with other while I'm a guest here.
Skeeter when it comes to defending America you say whatever you want bro. Just be cautious of the language involved.

The USA is the GREATEST country on earth. When you are on top everyone will try to kick you in the shins anyway they can. If Pinko wants to sing about what the President hasn't done that's her deal. I didn't hear any idea's about how to solve homelessness in her song? I didn't hear any idea's on how drastically increasing the "minimum wage" is going to be paid for in her song? Did you EUROPE's #1 song?

She mentions about the President never working hard? Did Kennedy have a hard life? Did Clinton have a hard life? Did your Prime Minister in Germany grow up with a hard life? Did Regan, Bush Sr., Carter, Nixon, Ford grow up with hard lifes? Hell no they didn't. They had advantages that some us didn't have. They have the education to be able to apply for the single mentally and physically TOUGHEST job in the WORLD. You don't walk in the door to be the leader of the free world and then walk out in the same shape you started.

I wonder how Pink's stock portfolio is doing? Considering how bad our country has I wonder how it's even possible that the Dow has been consistently setting RECORD highs over the last few months? Record meaning Pre 9/11 highs. Meaning Pre-Clinton highs

I would challenge anyone who lives outside of the US to just close your eyes and image yourself waking up one random fall morning and finding out that two of the biggest landmarks in your country have just been blown up and have killed multiple thousands of your countryman. Now imagine that your government did nothing about it like Clinton or Al Whore would've done. People call us EVIL and that's fine everyone has their own opinion. However chasing Bin Laden and getting rid of that waste of humanity Sadam Hussein NEEDED to happen.

Liberals can continue to spout out that their government needs to take care of them. However their lives won't be any better until they start trying to take care of themselves and not relying on programs and others to help them get up everyday.

GOD BLESS THE USA AND ALL OF HER CITIZENS.
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Amen again! I spent 10 years of my life in conditions that weren't as good as in some prisons defending her right to sing silly, immature songs. Cause we are America, she can sing them, but I DON'T have to listen. Just a shame she doesn't understand what she has with her citizenship!
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Well said blkjp, well said.

The poor man is always talking about what he CANT do to the Jeep because of his government, but an independant, United States company made a decision not to play a song and the US is wrong?!

I don't know, maybe I am overlooking something here, but as much as I hate the STATE that I live in, I couldnt think of anywhere else I would rather be (US excluded). Canada tells there citizens what they can and cant eat because of the government health care, Austrailians cant have any firearms to defend themselves with, the middle east has been a war zone for forever, Africa...well...I think we all know about Africa....

I mean come on... Every other Country is the world is in MUCH worse shape than us. "Europe," needs to stop complaining about the US, and worry about THEIR OWN issues.

This isn't a personal attack against you Nic, just stating a watered down view of my opinion. I agree with Skeeter, if I really said what I want to, I would get banned
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Skeeter when it comes to defending America you say whatever you want bro. Just be cautious of the language involved.

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I would like to say that we shouldn't jump on nicolas-eric for this, Had I read about something like this going on in Germany I would likely have asked him the same question to find out if it were true or not.

Nic, I like you, I enjoy your posts and really enjoy hearing about life in Germany, It's good to get an outside perspective on things even when it's not pleasant to hear.
I hope you understand that this is a touchy subject with Americans because all we ever hear from europe is how we kick women, rape dogs and talk mean to house plants.
It never ceases to amaze us how our opponents can rob rape and torture the most innocent women and children in the most gruesome ways and yet we are still portrayed as the evil ones.
No matter how much we give to help ease suffering around the world, we're still reviled for not giving enough.
No matter how many of our people are killed defending people and lands not our own, we are still the oppressors.
That kind of thing gets old fast because most of the people spewing most of the hate at us are taking from us with one hand while flipping us off with the other.
I hope you take no offense at the response you got with this subject.
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Censorship is a government action, there is no prohibition about playing that song in America.

I have a few questions.

1. which european country has done as much as the United States of America to help the poor?

2. Which european country doesn't censor?

3.does it make europeans feel better about themselves to whine and cry about how evil we are when they don't do shit to solve the problems they whine about?

You know if europe took care of it's own we wouldn't need to would we.

God I get sick of hearing how evil mean and nasty we all are.
i love the US and the people there. but i´ve to correct you.
some weeks ago there was a G8 meeting here in german.
and the US was the only country that didn´t sign contracts that are about helping africa and saving the environment. the thing that was most impoortant to your president was more money for his "i want to control the worlds oil" wars.

and thats not my personal opinion. that´s what all european news magazines wrote.

and europeans don´t say that the american people are evil and nasty. they say it about your government.

sometimes i watch CNN US. and if it were the only news i watch i would agree with everything you say.
but i also watch CNN GB and other news stations very often. and what they say is very very different. i have the feeling that most people in the US don´t really know what´s going on in the world.

but lets stop this discussion. i only asked if it´s true if a song was censored.

just want to answer your three questions:

1. if you look at how many people live in each country every country in the european union pays more development assistance to poor countries - says the UNO.

2. we are all free and democtratic countries and not like china.

3. that we whine and cry very much is true. but solving probelems in the world isn´t the same as making war whenever i want.
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What makes you think the news you see from here is wrong and news you see there is right? I'm sure that Germany has a totally different view on a lot of things, I'm sure your history books don't match ours in the least. It's all about perspective.
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i love the US and the people there. but i´ve to correct you.
some weeks ago there was a G8 meeting here in german.
and the US was the only country that didn´t sign contracts that are about helping africa and saving the environment. the thing that was most impoortant to your president was more money for his "i want to control the worlds oil" wars.
Strange, that's not what I'm reading in a quick google search on the topic, got any links that support your position?

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and thats not my personal opinion. that´s what all european news magazines wrote.
Umm yes, like I said, all we hear from europeans is how evil we are...got any "facts" to support the assertions? got a transcript to show what was actually said or do you just go by your "news magazines" interpretation?
BTW, the President can't sign any contracts, he doesn't have the authority to bind us in any legal way without congressional review.
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and europeans don´t say that the american people are evil and nasty. they say it about your government.
It doesn't work that way for us, that whole " government of the people, for the people, and by the people" thing means that we are the government, when you say our government is evil, you are saying we are, because we are the government.
Attack one of us and you attack all of us.

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sometimes i watch CNN US. and if it were the only news i watch i would agree with everything you say.
but i also watch CNN GB and other news stations very often. and what they say is very very different. i have the feeling that most people in the US don´t really know what´s going on in the world.
You're probably right, our news is very much dominated by leftest elitists that only report what they want us to hear, CNN is often referred to as the Communist News Network due to their leftist leanings.
thankfully more and more people are turning to alternatives.
I've been listening to short wave for years, I hear the bile europeans spew about us directly from their own broadcasts so you can't very well convince me it doesn't happen or that it's not as our media portrays it.

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but lets stop this discussion. i only asked if it´s true if a song was censored.
No it's not true, we have people saying far worse than that on our airwaves all the time, what she sings is actually kind of mild compared to some of the crap that gets broadcast here. the song is simply not played because it's a particularly poor song.
BTW, had you simply asked if the story were true you probably would have received a quick and polite correction. when you stated that the song is number one in europe because you all feel it's accurate, you opened yourself up to defensiveness.

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just want to answer your three questions:

1. if you look at how many people live in each country every country in the european union pays more development assistance to poor countries - says the UNO.
http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/di...redna0.2997553
Not quite, they love to forget about private donations, Americans do not like the governemnt telling us where to send our money.

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2. we are all free and democtratic countries and not like china.
Didn't your country just jail a man because he didn't agree with the official stance on the holocaust?
There are no subjects that cannot be discussed in America.

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Nope, but we don't make war whenever we want either, if we did france would have been turned into a theme park long ago

BTW, we didn't start the war.
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i agree with pretty much everything here skeeter,

but im pretty sure we did start the war in Iraq
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Nope.
Gulf war 1 ended in a cease fire, Saddam didn't live up to the terms of that cease fire and also fired on our planes, we were justified in resuming hostilities at any time.
Gulf war 1 was a response to hostilities directed at one of our treaty partners, we were obligated to come to the defense of Kuwait.

Afghanistan was retaliation for a direct attack on us by forces within that country, they were offered a chance to turn those forces over to us and they refused.
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hmm u learn something new everyday

and i knew about afghanistan, but i thought we just invaded Iraq b/c of the threat of weapons
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...but i thought we just invaded Iraq b/c of the threat of weapons
and they found no weapons in iraq.
other countries like north korea definately have nuke weapons and their leaders talk about using them.
does the USA do anything against this threat? no.
most coutries here in europe think the only reason for the iraq war is the oil they have.

but don´t forget the people that are involved in that war. they do a great job and i think they really bring freedom to the people in iraq.
and i worry about these people.
most "war experts" in the UNO and the european union talk about a second vietnam. and many of these experts say that in the next 5 years +100.000 people will die in iraq.

i really hope these experts are wrong but i´m still worried about the whole situation.
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most coutries here in europe think the only reason for the iraq war is the oil they have.
Thinking and knowing are two very different things.

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