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Old 10-02-2007, 08:04 PM   #1
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WASHINGTON: The US administration has shifted strategy and is drawing up plans for possible air strikes against Iran’s Revolutionary Guard instead of the country’s nuclear sites, the New Yorker magazine reported on late on Sunday.

President George W Bush has requested the Joint Chiefs of Staff revise plans for a possible attack on Iran, with the focus on “surgical” raids against the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps which Washington accuses of targeting US forces in Iraq, the magazine wrote.

Previous contingency plans called for a more elaborate bombing campaign against suspected nuclear sites in Iran as well as other infrastructure, the magazine reported, citing unnamed former officials and government consultants.

The change in focus comes as Bush and his top aides have begun to describe the war in Iraq in public statements as increasingly a “strategic battle between the United States and Iran,” said the article by investigative reporter Seymour Hersh.

During a video conference over the summer, Bush allegedly told Ryan Crocker, the US ambassador to Iraq, that he was considering striking Iranian targets across the border and that the British “were on board,” according to the article.

But Israeli leaders were dismayed that Washington had decided not to target Iran’s nuclear programme and French officials had expressed doubts about the possible limited air strikes, it said.

While Bush has not yet issued an “execute order” for a military operation inside Iran, the pace of attack planning has increased markedly and the CIA has dramatically expanded a unit focusing on Iran, it said.

The amended plan would call for using the US Navy’s “sea-launched cruise missiles and more precisely targeted ground attacks and bombing strikes, including plans to destroy the most important Revolutionary Guard training camps, supply depots, and command and control facilities,” it said.

Vice President Dick Cheney was pushing to confront the Iranians despite deep concerns from Republicans that any action could be politically disastrous for the party given popular opposition to the Iraq war, a former intelligence official said.

“There is a desperate effort by Cheney et al. to bring military action to Iran as soon as possible,” the official said. “Meanwhile, the politicians are saying, ‘You can’t do it, because every Republican is going to be defeated, and we’re only one fact away from going over the cliff in Iraq.’”

Bush and his advisers have adopted the new “counter-terrorism” approach recognizing the US public is not convinced that Iran poses an imminent nuclear threat and that the US intelligence community believes Tehran is at least five years away from obtaining an atomic bomb.

But officials are betting the case for hitting Iranian forces blamed for attacking US soldiers would be easier to make, the magazine wrote. “This time, unlike the attack in Iraq, we’re going to play the victim. The name of our game seems to be to get the Iranians to overplay their hand,” said Zbigniew Brezinski, a former national security adviser under ex-president Jimmy Carter and a critic of the Bush administration’s foreign policy.

Brezinski said that Iran would probably respond to a US attack “by intensifying the conflict in Iraq and also in Afghanistan, their neighbours, and that could draw in Pakistan.

“We will be stuck in a regional war for twenty years,” he said. The magazine quoted a Defense Department spokesman saying the administration remains committed to a diplomatic solution to disputes with Iran.

Meanwhile, Iraq’s Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari on Monday day urged Iran not to fan flames of confrontation with the West over its nuclear programme, saying the conflict was leading to rising global tensions.

“From where we are, there is a rising tension between the (United Nations) Security Council and Iran over the nuclear fire,” he told CNN. “We, as Iraqis, are worried about this rising tension. And we are doing our best to decrease that because that will impact our security situation more positively,” he added.

He said tensions have been heightened by recent Iranian pronouncements on its nuclear programme, and urged Tehran to soften its tone. “Our advice has been to the Iranians, as recently as a few days ago, that really you need to (take) these statements very seriously and deal credibly and transparently with the international community,” he said. Zebari also urged Iran “to learn from the mistakes of Saddam Hussein in the past ... in dealing with the weapons of mass destruction,” he said.
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:29 PM   #2
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Better sooner than later. The libs are going to kiss his ass while downsizing the military even more. I have all my gear, lets go finish it. lets look at an even bigger picture. Putin in Russia is becoming a hard liner, communism will be back. China is continually building its military. China and Russia are arming Iran and Venezuela. If this doesn't stop or we don't stand up and shout, we're not going to be THE superpower any longer. My opinion.
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:36 PM   #3
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Surgical Strike hell, Blow the Shit outta the whole region.
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:44 PM   #4
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Surgical Strike hell, Blow the Shit outta the whole region.
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If we had taken care of business back when all this shiite started, the mess would already been cleaned up! Yeah, the rest of the world would still hate us, but we wouldn't be messing around in this crud.
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Alls well and good if you let those who know what the h*ll they are doing do it. Throw in the politicians and it becomes another unmanageable mess.
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post the link to the article please bro.
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post the link to the article please bro.
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stupid to release the info to the news.. especially the New Yorker magazine.. is that the new Associated Press? or does the Bush administration believe Iran doesnt get the New Yorker?

I think its dumb to tell CNN or anyone else. The military needs to get the media out of the picture and handle business the way they were trained to do so. Let the media report on what happens after the fact.. for example the "accidental" nuclear meltdown that wiped out their country because they should NOT have been building up weapons and apparently didnt know how to handle them. We only had planes there doing "reconnaissance"... SEE, wouldnt that be a good story for the world?
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stupid to release the info to the news.. especially the New Yorker magazine.. is that the new Associated Press? or does the Bush administration believe Iran doesnt get the New Yorker?

I think its dumb to tell CNN or anyone else. The military needs to get the media out of the picture and handle business the way they were trained to do so. Let the media report on what happens after the fact.. for example the "accidental" nuclear meltdown that wiped out their country because they should NOT have been building up weapons and apparently didnt know how to handle them. We only had planes there doing "reconnaissance"... SEE, wouldnt that be a good story for the world?
Oh I agree, media needs to not report this kind of stuff.

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Old 10-03-2007, 02:32 AM   #11
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well, duh! We don't need to know where Cavediver is perched. Just that he did his job! I feel that, if the reporters would all come down with dysentry, we would be in better shape.
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It might be planted info to intimidate Iran into backing off. The Press and politicians need to be put in a hole somewhere to think about how stupid they have acted in the last 100 years.

I personally think it would be stupid to go through with anything, now that the press released the news. Plus we are still fighting on 2 fronts. Iraq and Afganistan (still have seen no proof of a pullout as of yet). Stretching ourselves thin will only leave us wide open and vulnerable on the home front.
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Another guy replied to me like this on another board.

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It's funny you said that because the USA has been arming enemies for decades and now they get all pissy when others do the same thing?
What do you guys think about that?

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Not much to say about it. The US has supplied arms to other nations in the past when it suited the needs of our own Government. Yet when another country attempts to arm one of our enemies we consider it a smack in the face. This has been a part of world politics since civilizations began.

I personally would like to see Amercan weapons stay in America.
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According to the Colbert Report...we are the biggest supplier of arms to the Saudi's...wait, didn't we also supply the taliban?
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We'll be fighting wars forever. Someone always wants more. Something I like to remind antiwar freaks of too, we didn't just become America. We took it from the native americans, rebelled against mother england, and then fought each other on how to manage it. Never ending cycle of life. They can stew on that with their wheaties.
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War will always be a nessasary part of the world because of Greed, stuborness, and ignorance. The only way to handle some people is by force. My loyalties and arms are with America and for the protection of the American People, not the politicians and the propaganda slinging press.
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