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Old 10-15-2012, 12:27 PM   #1531
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The bit still turns anyone who's bit. It may take a few days (like the one guy in the first season) or faster if they bleed out and die. I'm still sure he chopped the leg in hopes of preventing the spread of the bite, Like you said.

What I wanna know is why a bite is more severe than blood to blood contact, because I've seen them cut their own hands and touch the zombie blood with the same hand/wound.

That's exactly what I was thinking, and why I didn't think the bite has some special powers of transforming them. I am pretty sure that the bite just kills them from blood infection/the wound. Untreated any type of injury like that will kill you.

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If you remember, Andrea's sister took days to croak from the bite or bite infection, then turned pretty quick. I don't recall anyone turning that didn't die first. All of the bites have seemed serious enough to kill you sooner or later. With all of the blood and goo that flies around, and as beat to hell as everyone always is, it can't just be the "body fluids in a scratch" kinda thing.

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I think the guy im thinking of wasn't dead when they left hum but that's was the last we saw him so he must have died. Idk what I was thinking
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tj dude you are talking about when they were going into the city I think in the next to last episode of season 1. ? but they left him by the road by a tree because he was dying and had a fever and was going to turn.

ichabod I am agreeing with you that they have to die to turn. What I am arguing is that the bite wasn't gona turn him, it was the fact that the bite would kill him.
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tj dude you are talking about when they were going into the city I think in the next to last episode of season 1. ? but they left him by the road by a tree because he was dying and had a fever and was going to turn.

ichabod I am agreeing with you that they have to die to turn. What I am arguing is that the bite wasn't gona turn him, it was the fact that the bite would kill him.
Yea that's who I was thinking about.

And they've already told us in the story. They're all infected. Bites and scratches lead to fever/death then a matter of time they turn. That's why glenn was checking the ever so fine Maggie for scratches.
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I think the guy im thinking of wasn't dead when they left hum but that's was the last we saw him so he must have died. Idk what I was thinking
If you're talking about Jim I think its safe to assume it killed him and he came back. I'm pretty sure the test subjects at the cdc ended up dying before coming back to 'life'
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Yea, I interpretted that the fever kills you, brought on by the infectious bite, then causes reanimation. All the walkers are dead, so they must die first. Right?

Blood takes about 2 minutes to fully circulate from the heart out to the extremities and back to the heart. So, he had about 60 seconds, assuming a ventricle or other primary vein was contaminated, before it got to his heart.

I agree it is a matter of keeping Hershal alive; he has the infection already, as a carrier. Death will allow it to develop in him, the way I see it anywho. With this in mind, I think Glenn checking Mags was a symbol of his love for her and his concern for her safety. I fail to see how any of them could "get" infected through a scratch.

Wierd how much a nonissue Body Substance Isolation is for them. Hit a zed in the head with a bat and his "infection goo" is all over your face. That would concern me.
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I really hope AMC and Dish Network get their crap together soon. I don't like the idea of having to hang out at Chilis on Sunday night to watch Walking Dead. I save so much money with Dish over our old provider that it makes sense to keep Dish.. but I hate not having AMC.

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I really hope AMC and Dish Network get their crap together soon. I don't like the idea of having to hang out at Chilis on Sunday night to watch Walking Dead. I save so much money with Dish over our old provider that it makes sense to keep Dish.. but I hate not having AMC.

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Wowser. That's redonkulous.

They are all a bunch of swindlecats if ya ask me. I heard on the AR News tonite (radio, not guns) that 18%, some 20 million, US households representing 50 million viewers have gone to "over the air" broadcast tv as their exclusive source of tv at home. 8% canceled subscription service in the past year, and the total is up from 15% last year.

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If you remember, Andrea's sister took days to croak from the bite or bite infection, then turned pretty quick. I don't recall anyone turning that didn't die first. All of the bites have seemed serious enough to kill you sooner or later. With all of the blood and goo that flies around, and as beat to hell as everyone always is, it can't just be the "body fluids in a scratch" kinda thing.
Andrea's sister died within minutes after she was bit. She got bit in the arm first by the RV then again in the neck. She died then the next morning she turned and Andrea shot her in the head while they where burying the rest of the dead.

I think with Hershel they're going to stretch the imagination regarding his bite because they'll need his medical ability to deliver the baby as well as treat wounded. Don't see him being written off this early in the season. IMO anyone else that has been bitten or died has turned. Jim was bitten in the arm and turned(or was going to turn) within a couple days I'd say Hershel was doomed from the minute he was bitten, but because of his medical they'll hope we overlook that fact and assume by cutting off his leg it saved him.
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Andrea's sister died within minutes after she was bit. She got bit in the arm first by the RV then again in the neck. She died then the next morning she turned and Andrea shot her in the head while they where burying the rest of the dead.

I think with Hershel they're going to stretch the imagination regarding his bite because they'll need his medical ability to deliver the baby as well as treat wounded. Don't see him being written off this early in the season. IMO anyone else that has been bitten or died has turned. Jim was bitten in the arm and turned(or was going to turn) within a couple days I'd say Hershel was doomed from the minute he was bitten, but because of his medical they'll hope we overlook that fact and assume by cutting off his leg it saved him.
So can we predict Hershal birthing a zombie baby AND turning zombie himself at the exact same time?! Deal with that in your Ricktatorship, lol.
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because of his medical they'll hope we overlook that fact and assume by cutting off his leg it saved him.
Thats is probably why they showed his bloody stump meat as being bright red as opposed to black like the bite wound.
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Maybe it's just me but I would have rather seen Carl bitten and Hershel kept safe. That kid annoys the crap out of me.
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Maybe Hershal delivers the baby then turns as it pops out then he eats it...
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Maybe Hershal delivers the baby then turns as it pops out then he eats it...
And then kills olive oil. And they live happily ever after
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Maybe it's just me but I would have rather seen Carl bitten and Hershel kept safe. That kid annoys the crap out of me.
Not just you. Dale died cause of that little dumbkins. He sucks.

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Maybe Hershal delivers the baby then turns as it pops out then he eats it...
HA, I vote for that!
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I think he's just a bad actor, if he'd had more acting skills then I'm sure he's be pretty kewl. Anyone else see him macking on that blonde girl? Lol
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I think he's just a bad actor, if he'd had more acting skills then I'm sure he's be pretty kewl. Anyone else see him macking on that blonde girl? Lol
I thought I posted that here too. Guess it wad another forum. I predict they get together. I don't think age rules applies in the apocalypse
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I thought I posted that here too. Guess it wad another forum. I predict they get together. I don't think age rules applies in the apocalypse
She didn't look that young last season. How old does she look to you?
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She didn't look that young last season. How old does she look to you?
I never said she looked young. But my guess is late teens/early 20s. Let him get that cougar. Lol
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I never said she looked young. But my guess is late teens/early 20s. Let him get that cougar. Lol
Didn't say you did lol i was just throwing it out there that she looked younger this season. He looks 13...
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I was just making sure I didn't. It hard to keep up with what I say. she def looks younger this season. Idk how old he is but more power to the little man
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I think we are assuming too much about how the disease works. I am pretty sure (IMO) that these are the facts:

1) Everyone is infected
2) Once you die, you turn.

Now, the rest is all speculation on what we have seen:

1)The bites usually kill (why?)
2) A fever normally results from a bite or scratch, which can lead to death (again, why)

I think we need to know for sure if the bite/scratch kills because of the virus, or if it is simply because the wound doesn't get treated correctly.
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I think we are assuming too much about how the disease works. I am pretty sure (IMO) that these are the facts:

1) Everyone is infected
2) Once you die, you turn.

Now, the rest is all speculation on what we have seen:

1)The bites usually kill (why?)
2) A fever normally results from a bite or scratch, which can lead to death (again, why)

I think we need to know for sure if the bite/scratch kills because of the virus, or if it is simply because the wound doesn't get treated correctly.
Well considering in episode 12 of season 2 the prisoners neck was snapped then he turned with 0 bites I agree all are infected and only turn once dead
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I think he's just a bad actor, if he'd had more acting skills then I'm sure he's be pretty kewl. Anyone else see him macking on that blonde girl? Lol

That kid drives me nuts. It seems that every time he speaks, he has to stammer.

"Wh-wh-wh-what do we do now?"
"uh-uh-uh chop his head off"

Don't know if it's him or the script or what, but it grates my nerves.
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I thought I posted that here too. Guess it wad another forum. I predict they get together. I don't think age rules applies in the apocalypse
You did

Maggie was 22 at the end of season 2, Beth is her younger sister. If ya remember Jimmy (the kid who got ate in the rv at the farm), he was Beths b/f. So Id guess shes 14-18 or so.

If they are all infected it isn't logical that a bite would turn them, unless as said they died from the bite. With dead flesh biting you, septic infection would be a very serious probability but would still take days in most cases. If they weren't infected the fever makes sense, but if they are that doesn't either.
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Maggie was 22 at the end of season 2, Beth is her younger sister. If ya remember Jimmy (the kid who got ate in the rv at the farm), he was Beths b/f. So Id guess shes 14-18 or so.

If they are all infected it isn't logical that a bite would turn them, unless as said they died from the bite. With dead flesh biting you, septic infection would be a very serious probability but would still take days in most cases. If they weren't infected the fever makes sense, but if they are that doesn't either.
The bite doesn't turn them. The bite/scratch leads to a very high fever then death. Remember last season when they made it to the cdc. The scientist who was in on the virus told rick everyone was infected and I think he also said the bite/scratch leads to fever then death. I don't ever remember anyone turning who hadn't been bit or scratched.

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