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Old 06-25-2013, 03:03 PM   #1
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Top 10 "Most American Vehicles": 4 Toyotas, no Jeeps!

Here is the list, the Camry was actually #1 last year:

1. Ford F-150
2. Toyota Camry
3. Dodge Avenger
4. Honda Odyssey
5. Toyota Sienna
6. Chevrolet Traverse
7. Toyota Tundra
8. GMC Acadia
9. Buick Enclave
10. Toyota Avalon

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The Cars.com American-Made Index - Cars.com

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Old 06-25-2013, 03:06 PM   #2
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Lol, there's the F-150 and then a list of crap I'd never buy.

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Lol, there's the F-150 and then a list of crap I'd never buy.
Couldn't agree more!! The F-150 is the ONLY vehicle on that list I would ever consider buying!!
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When I look at this list, other than the F-150, the word that comes to mind for me -- BORING.
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5 of those are not American brands.
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5 of those are not American brands.

It's based on sales, construction location, and sourcing of the parts.
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I don't think sales should factor in very highly as parent companies that are not US based get the profits.

But i agree, the only vehicles i would consider are the f150 and the acadia.
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Funny thing...go to a yota dealer and look at the parts content percentage sticker on an import (hell my hyundai had a permanent sticker in the window for it! Theyre proud!). Then look at gm ford or chryslers.

Imports have a "us and canada" parts percentage. Domestics have "north american". What a cop out....
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Pretty funny that the F150 only has 75% domestic content, probably the lowest of the group and the minimum required to be considered for this list.
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Pretty funny that the F150 only has 75% domestic content, probably the lowest of the group and the minimum required to be considered for this list.
Aren't all 3 GM's on the list basically the same vehicle with cosmetic differences? They could be rolling down the same assembly line for all I know.
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If you look at the methodology of "cars.com" you will not put any faith in their list. I think it's getting worse, but I don't doubt Ford's F150 would be near the top of any list, for now.

It's more marketing than science.

If anyone is interested, check out the methodology used by Kogood/American University.

Kogod Made in America Auto Index | Kogod School of Business, American University, Washington, DC
  • Profit Margin: Where the automaker's global headquarters is located
  • Labor: Where the car is assembled
  • Research and Development
  • Inventory, Capital, and Other Expenses: Location of assembly
  • Engine and Transmission: Location of production
  • Body, Interior, Chassis, Electrical, and Other: Location of production
  • National Highway Traffic Safety Administration AALA "Domestic Content" Score
By their methodology, there are several ties near the top, Jeep Wrangers are number 4.

However, since cars.com buys (and sells) quite a bit of print and airtime, theirs will spread through for-profit media like wildfire.
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If you look at the methodology of "cars.com" you will not put any faith in their list. I think it's getting worse, but I don't doubt Ford's F150 would be near the top of any list, for now.

It's more marketing than science.

If anyone is interested, check out the methodology used by Kogood/American University.

Kogod Made in America Auto Index | Kogod School of Business, American University, Washington, DC
  • Profit Margin: Where the automaker's global headquarters is located
  • Labor: Where the car is assembled
  • Research and Development
  • Inventory, Capital, and Other Expenses: Location of assembly
  • Engine and Transmission: Location of production
  • Body, Interior, Chassis, Electrical, and Other: Location of production
  • National Highway Traffic Safety Administration AALA "Domestic Content" Score
By their methodology, there are several ties near the top, Jeep Wrangers are number 4.

However, since cars.com buys (and sells) quite a bit of print and airtime, theirs will spread through for-profit media like wildfire.
That's the study i was looking for but couldn't find.
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5 of those are not American brands.
Neither is Jeep!
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Didn't see anything on that list I would buy.
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So those ten are more American then this???? Lol

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So those ten are more American then this???? Lol
Chrysler vehicles are about as american as an american flag made in china.

Jk, I don't know.
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Aren't all 3 GM's on the list basically the same vehicle with cosmetic differences? They could be rolling down the same assembly line for all I know.
I know right. they make one car then brand three different ways with subtle differences. the Pontiac version of the chevy equinox always made me laugh.


the Honda odessey isn't bad if u need a family van
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Actually a big fan of the new Chevy Traverse's. Much more classy looking than the awkward looking model of years past.
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So those ten are more American then this???? Lol


Yes they are but don't let that get you down....you're Fiat is still prettier
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Lol, there's the F-150 and then a list of crap I'd never buy.
X2, I wonder how they would perform in a Rock crawling event...........
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I'd rather be homeless than buy any one of those cars
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Lol, there's the F-150 and then a list of crap I'd never buy.
A lot of crap made in America it seems
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I'd rather be homeless than buy any one of those cars
Acadia and ilk are nice family vehicles for surbanites.
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Isn't there a list of most American just based on where it's made? I thought I'd seen that.
Tundra, I think, more American made than any other full size truck based on that. I think, going off memory
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I don't think sales should factor in very highly as parent companies that are not US based get the profits.

But i agree, the only vehicles i would consider are the f150 and the acadia.
I'd rather American workers get money and foreign CEOs over foreign workers and domestic CEOs
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Lol, there's the F-150 and then a list of crap I'd never buy.
exactly what i was thinking...
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I know right. they make one car then brand three different ways with subtle differences. the Pontiac version of the chevy equinox always made me laugh.


the Honda odessey isn't bad if u need a family van
See the chevy astro and gmc safari. Gmc yukon and caddilac escalade. Chevy monte carlo and oldsmobile 88. Chevy camaro vs pontiac firebird. Firebirds are better even though i almost died in one once.

Theres no excuse for minivans to exist. You can thank chrysler for those ugly things.


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I'd take a Tundra over an F150 any day. But at least those rust bucket GM trucks didn't make it.

+1 on an American worker being FAR more important than some CEO making 400 times what his workers do.

And remember, Toyota stock trades in NY, same as Tokyo. It isn't like the money just goes to Japan.
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Theres no excuse for minivans to exist. You can thank chrysler for those ugly things.
And the JK.



That's what your neighbors are buying, that list. I see that list and then I think about every new American made car I've ever seen, and it's requisite trips back to the dealer to get "fixed" at least 3 to 5 times the first year and I don't doubt that list a bit
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Theres no excuse for minivans to exist. You can thank chrysler for those ugly things.
Plenty of reasons for them to exist.

Plus, Chrysler's minivan was the big money-maker for the company for a number of years, not to mention several million dollars I earned from working for Chrysler because of the minivan.

I'm sure a lot of those profits went into R&D on Jeep technology.

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